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 Posted: Sat Jan 29th, 2011 07:58 am
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Apart from one neighbour who burns something very smoky on her fire, no-one else anywhere near me burns coal. It's all gas around here. :???:

I'm going to scrounge some from my local preserved railway. It will certainly be authentic! :thumbs

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Having finished a few coats of pale grey paint, I have begun to apply the weathering layers. The first one, shown in the following photo, is a rough coat of Vallejo 'Grey Black'. This will provide a basis for the dirt and grime, but is not intended to represent the paler-coloured ash. This will be done later.

I have tried to ensure that most of the darker paint is applied in vertical strokes, as if the grime has been washed downwards by rain and the elements in general.

Several more colours and tones have yet to be applied.



The obvious patchiness and contrast between the two colours at present will recede as painting continues.

For those of you yet to invest in an airbrush; imagine painting those guide rails and brackets by hand! :shock: It would take ages. This took seconds.

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 Even things such as how to cut microstrip and rod with a knife so that the tiny cut piece doesn't fly off across the room. We all know that one, I'm sure. Or do we? :hmm

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I'm game to ask the obvious, especially after having to search around on the floor for .75mm x 5mm sections of styrene rod... how, oh wise one, does one "cut microstrip and rod with a knife so that the tiny cut piece doesn't fly off across the room?"



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Marty put it on some sticky backed paper ,then cut it,
just a thought!

:hmm:lol::lol::cool:

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The question i want answered is how do you find the patience to work your build out and then build it?

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Marty wrote: Perry wrote:
 Even things such as how to cut microstrip and rod with a knife so that the tiny cut piece doesn't fly off across the room. We all know that one, I'm sure. Or do we? :hmm

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I'm game to ask the obvious, especially after having to search around on the floor for .75mm x 5mm sections of styrene rod... how, oh wise one, does one "cut microstrip and rod with a knife so that the tiny cut piece doesn't fly off across the room?"

:mutley:mutley Sorry - I had to chuckle; it was the "Oh, wise one" that amused me. I've been called lots of things, but never that. :roll:

Assuming you're using a pointed craft knife blade, rest the tip of the blade on the cutting surface on the far side of the material to be cut, then pivot the blade downwards, ensuring that the tip of the blade doesn't move away from the cutting surface.



Sorry about the cr*p drawing of the knife. I was in a bit of a hurry. :oops:

I hope this makes it clear for you. If not, let me know. :thumbs

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Or, you could put hand, knife, cutting board (a small piece of offcut cardboard) and material inside a large, clear freezer bag, seal the bag as much as is practical, then cut...



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phill wrote: The question i want answered is how do you find the patience to work your build out and then build it?

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Simply by breaking a project down into manageable-sized 'chunks', Phill.

Projects such as the coaling plant or the goods shed do involve a lot of work and can be quite daunting if considered as a whole. No doubt you have seen me mention on here that I like to build things as sub-assemblies wherever possible. Part of the reason for that is that I only have a comparatively small task to carry out at any given time. I suppose it's like building several small projects instead of one big one, but it's just that they all fit together at the end.

You will no doubt be familiar with the 6 P's; Prior Planning Prevents P*ss Poor Performance. That carries over well into modelmaking, because time spent planning a project is never wasted. Spend an hour planning and it can save you two hours in construction time - because you were able to work out potential problems very early on.

Where do I get the patience? I think I get into a state of mind when I'm doing a really repetitive task in which I can concentrate on the task in hand but also switch off to the possibility of boredom creeping in. If I've got 50 identical pieces to cut, I don't start counting at No.1. I start at No.50 and count down. Isn't that how PTI's motivate folk? 'Just three more, just two more, just one more.........' Job done?

The encouragement of the folk on here is also a great motivator. They want to see results, so I try to produce them. :thumbs

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Stubby47 wrote: Or, you could put hand, knife, cutting board (a small piece of offcut cardboard) and material inside a large, clear freezer bag, seal the bag as much as is practical, then cut...
Nah, that wouldn't work, Stu. His hands would suffocate! :mutley:mutley

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The Ash Plant (of which this was originally the thread :roll:) is now as complete as I can make it until it is installed on the layout. I can't fix or paint the access ladder until that's done as it will be too fragile.

I've done some more very subtle weathering and may still add another daub of paint here and there, but I think these will be the final photos until it's on the layout.



The access ladder will eventually be fixed to the small platform about halfway up.




I've indicated some paler light ash dust that has settled around where the skip dumps it's load into the hopper. I think this emphasises the rails and brackets nicely.




Yes, there is a winch inside. :thumbs I know most people won't notice it, but I know it's there! And that's supposed to be ash on the window sill.

Once the final layout location for the plant layout is decided, I will need to put in a pit, with a suitable grille cover over it, between the running rails and another to one side, as per the prototype. I will probably use yet another Peco Inspection Pit kit, somewhat modified. The beauty of those kits, as opposed to a scratchbuilt pit, is that they have moulded 'chairs' to hold the rails in the correct position. As individual chairs are not available for Code 100 rail, (it's not flat-bottomed rail), I'd prefer to go with what Peco provide in their kit.

O.K. That finalises another little scratchbuilt project. I'm not going to go through all the usual spiel here. I said it all at the end of the Coaling Plant thread and there's nothing else I want to add.

:cheers

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I've just seen the Bachmann ash plant: http://www.bachmann.co.uk/ on their website. Scroll down the page about 2/3rds of the way. It looks very similar to mine - but mine didn't cost anywere near £79.95!!!!!:shock::shock::shock::shock:

Likewise, their Coaling Tower is £85.00!!

Get scratchbuilding, guys. :thumbs I've saved myself about £150. :thumbs

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Perry wrote: I've just seen the Bachmann ash plant: http://www.bachmann.co.uk/ on their website. Scroll down the page about 2/3rds of the way. It looks very similar to mine - but mine didn't cost anywere near £79.95!!!!!:shock::shock::shock::shock:

Likewise, their Coaling Tower is £85.00!!

Get scratchbuilding, guys. :thumbs I've saved myself about £150. :thumbs

Perry


I have to say if i had a choice, yours or theirs i go for yours mate. It looks better and made with loving care not like theirs.

A lovely build by the way, you are still the Master Builder on here in my book Perry.

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Cheers, Phill! :oops:

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