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John Dew Full Member 
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Sorry Ron  I got confused.....it takes me all my time to work out the time in the UK. ____________________ John Granby III Lenz DCC,RR&Co Gold V9 B1 Windows 10 |
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MaxSouthOz Admin 
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I hope you'll excuse me, but I'll put my answers in your text, John John Dew wrote: Hi Max The marker in Block A was set at 30 with a ramp of 5 + 25. That was where I set the loco up to start. The marker in Block B was set at varying distances. I settled on 140 with a ramp of 5 + 135. When I started Schedule 1, the loco started up and moved into Block B, stopping at the same spot (140 ), every time. When I started Schedule 2, the loco went back to Block A and stopped at 30 every time. I manually started each Schedule each time. Each time it stopped on the mark.
Yes. They are pointing the right way. It's all working as it should.
When I increased the Compensation from 0 to 10, the loco stopped 20 mm further on. Go figure. Do you just have one stop marker per direction for each block? Yes. I chose two blocks without any other markers of any kind. A is about 45 cm long and B is about 150 cm long.
You're right. Except that now the stopping point is about 2 cm further on from where it was without the shuffle. It still shuffles in the same place each time.
It's 1.00 p.m. Business is traditionally slow this time of year after the kids go back to school. Everyone's had holidays and paid their school fees, so Carpet Repair/Cleaning is a low priority. I did a job at 9.00 a.m., and now I have a gap until about 4.00 p.m., so what am I doing? The problem is that there is no problem, It stops where it should every time. So why does it not behave when I'm running the programme? I warm the loco up with a few laps of the main layout before I start, so that's not it.  Cheers ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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John Dew Full Member
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Thanks Max Well thats good news sort of..............have you tried doing your test and then immediately running your programme.......... The programme used to run ok? Did anything change like alternative schedules, adjusted markers etc between you running the programme and your visitors coming? ____________________ John Granby III Lenz DCC,RR&Co Gold V9 B1 Windows 10 |
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MaxSouthOz Admin
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Not that I can remember, John. I've had it running a little while now and it's starting to lose it. I'm going to remove the shuffles and see if it comes good. Back later . . . ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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MaxSouthOz Admin
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OK. Had about 10 laps without the Shuffles. The variation in stopping points in the short Block is 1-2mm. The variation in the long Block is about 1-2cm. Ten times the amount, but it should be still possible to uncouple. I'll add the Shuffles back in and see if it dteriorates again. Back soon . . . ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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MaxSouthOz Admin
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Shuffles back in. Stopping points now starting to be wilder, but interestingly, worse on the long end. The short end has variations less than 25mm, but occasionally it will stop too long and push the coupler past the end of the magnet. The long end has stopping variations of up to 40mm and incidents of up to 100mm between the stops at each end of the shuffle. Definitely not acceptable. I had an idea that I could write another Schedule containing just the Shuffle, to play once the loco has stopped. This might eliminate the differences in travel time to the Stop Marker, effectively making them all the same. Food for thought. ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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brianpr1 Former Member
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Forgive me for butting in on this one, but I've been looking at the figures quoted. Without shuffles,in the short block the variation is about half a percent. In the long block, about one percent, both pretty good, I think. With shuffles, the short block is about 8 percent, but in the long block it is less than 3 percent. That suggests to me that the timers are still working accurately but something may be interfering with them starting. That would bear out your idea that the shuffles are the culprits. Maybe it would be worth experimenting with the start delay on the schedules? Are the variations always overruns or are they scattered either side of the stop marker? Regards, Brian |
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MaxSouthOz Admin
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Butt in all you like, Brian. The more, the merrier. The start delay is the default in the Schedule = 2. I must not have used the right description. The total variation on the short Block is about 25 mm. I used a marker pin to mark the Stop point and another two pins to mark each end of the shuffle. At the end of the trial, they were about 25 mm apart. The stop point only moved a few mm. However, the shuffle distance is very long using a sound decoder because of the inbuilt delay. 1 2 or 3 seconds, no movement. 4 seconds a lot of movement. The variation on the long Block is about 100 mm. Once again using three pins. The stopping points in between the two extremity pins was about 100 mm. The stopping points varied about 1 - 2 cm. Definitely not acceptable. The variation is scattered either side of the mean average. I wouldn't get too worried about it, as I intend to use vehicle mounted uncouplers when they arrive. It seems clear reading Geoff's earlier posts that Juergen has yet to devise an answer to this problem. ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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You're not going to believe this. I just had a visitor drop in. "Showus yer Railroad and Co," he said. "It's not working too well. I've got some issues with the stopping," I said. Pressure was put on, so I ran the sequence. Cold loco, dirty track first time up. Didin't put a wheel wrong. AAAAAAaaaarrrgggghhhhhh! ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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John Dew Full Member
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There you go Max The lottery of life   ____________________ John Granby III Lenz DCC,RR&Co Gold V9 B1 Windows 10 |
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MaxSouthOz wrote:You're not going to believe this. I just had a visitor drop in. "Showus yer Railroad and Co," he said. "It's not working too well. I've got some issues with the stopping," I said. LOL! ____________________ Regards Pete. ECOS2 with RR&Co Traincontroller and a load of other electronics so i can sit back and watch the trains go by. |
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