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 Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 07:51 pm
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LEDs come in a variety of "whites" which give various realistic tones.  I don't like incandescent globes at all.  There is always a risk of fire and they draw too much current.  I am getting close to 100 lights on my layout (not counting the mobile ones).  LEDs are the only things I feel safe with. 



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LEDs v Filament:
Leds - low current - a 1 amp supply can do 35 units & cool ( no heat) variety of colours
Filament - requires more current - usually 60-80 mA each, creates heat so placement has to be careful - colour variety limited.

Both have their uses.

Max has an arc welder unit.

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Interesting discussion. :hmm

I think I will go with LED's. They're what I'm familiar with and I concur with the thoughts on the safety and power requirements aspects

Thanks again, guys.

As an aside, it's amazing what needs to be altered when customising one of these shed 'kits'. I just made the front lintel and I had to cut the coverings about to get the smoke stains in the right places - centred over the roads! It would have looked really weird if they'd been off to one side. :shock:

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I constructed the ten roof panels today.

They were each constructed from 1mm thick card, each one 297mm long and 62mm wide. Each panel has a 3mm wide strip scored and bent along one long edge to form the slight angle at the edge of the roof.

I printed off the roof cladding supplied but only used the panelled part. I lined the underside of the roof panel with some matt black paper that I happened to have laying about. Once the adhesive on this had set sufficiently, I flipped the panel over and clad the top surface with the printed pannelling. These were cut into lengths along the panel lines, then butt-jointed on the face. The joins are surprisingly hard to see unless you really look hard for them. Once the roof vents are in place, I don't think they will be noticeable at all.





I'm going to leave the roof panels to dry overnight before I glue them to the fronts and sides. Each unit will then be glued in place before the flashing is added.

The corner covers still need making up, as do the wall cappings.  The lintel is made but not fixed in place yet. The interior and exterior roof vents have yet to be constructed and there is still the issue of the supporting pillars.

That's about all I can think of on the 'To Do' list to finish the basic construction work. I'll add a floor of foamboard later.

Please excuse the colour cast on the photos. They were taken quickly in very difficult lighting conditions. :oops:

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Well done Perry, Its a bit of a test of your endurance but it will be a great shed!
I see GEM models do a line of 4mm whitemetal shed accessories. machine tools lathes ect thats apart from their loco kits,may help?
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Thanks Derek.

I'll have a look at the GEM range. I had no idea they did stuff like that.

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Your shed is coming on well, Perry. I have used the GEM shed clutter and have another set ready for use around a second shed. You can see some of the items in my Mangarth - Loco Shed photo on the right hand side of the forum front page.

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I made a bit more progress this morning.

I cut two strips of 2mm thick card, 9.5mm x 650mm to form the wall capping. The wraps for these were cut at the printed join lines and when glued butted up to each other, the joins are virtually undetectable. I had thought about using several shorter pieces for the wall capping base layers, but thought it would be hard to conceal the joints.

I have glued the northlight modules in place and ensured that the whole building is square and level. I consider that it would be better to add the roofs once the modules were fixed and firmly set.

Once the wall cappings are dry, I will glue them in place.

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The wall cappings and lintel have been fixed in place and all ten roofs glued on. Externally, there's just the flashing to do when it's all dry.

While that lot sets off, I'll make a start on the exhaust hoods and vents. :thumbs

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That's coming along very nicely mate, can you just confirm that it is an engine shed and not an undercover football pitch, it's HUGE :doublethumb



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Knowing my complete aversion to anything even remotely connected with football, I can guarantee that it IS a loco shed. :roll::lol:

I know it looks big on its own, but my opinion is that a shed that will hold eight large locos would not be out of place in the size of MPD that I am modelling. A two-road, four-bay shed would look 'lost'. Once the coaling tower and ash plant, etc., are built, I think the shed will look about right. If it doesn't then I've wasted my time......:shock:

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Looks superb Perry. I really like the way you have done the roof panels, nicely breaks up a large area of flat material. I am looking forward to seeing how you treat those huge side windows - they could be a challenge.

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Hello Perry,
Really impressed with this Shed Build. Exceptional modelling, mate, looking really good and in-keeping with your Yard requirements,
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http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=47520

hope this link works, it shows the inside of the old Thornaby 13 rd shed.
might be or some help as to what went on inside.

:hmm:lol::cool:

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Wow Owen, that is fascinating. I hope I dont hear any diesel lover tell me that steam sheds were filthy old places after seeing that lot. Also answers the question about internal walls - it seems there were 1 road, 2 road, 3 road and several roads sheds.

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owen69 wrote: http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=47520

hope this link works, it shows the inside of the old Thornaby 13 rd shed.
might be or some help as to what went on inside.

:hmm:lol::cool:

Thanks, Owen. I've bookmarked that page. It should prove really useful later on.

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That's a terrific link for detail pictures.Pity they aren't yours Owen, then I could have put them in our prototype archive.



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I've just finished cutting out and assembling eight pairs of exhaust vents! :shock::shock::shock:

I got quicker as I went along, but they are a bit fiddly to start with.

I thought I would see what eight look like on the roof; two over each road. I'm thinking that four per road might be overkill. :hmm

I'll do a temporary lay-up and hopefully pop off a couple of photos when they are dry enough to handle.

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Hi, Perry,

I can't get my book on the scanner to send you a pm without endangering the spine, but it looks as though the roof spans, left to right were between 44ft and 52ft and supporting pillars were between 17ft and 21ft apart, if I've read the drawings correctly. The spans look huge! It's funny, until the subject is raised like this, I was more interested in the machinery etc., never thought of the engineering behind the buildings, as all my scene is 'micro' by comparison.

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Well we all said it was great to have the master builder back and boy he aint dissapointed us at all has he :cheers. That looks a great shed build there Perry, got to be up there with the goods shed i say.

Loving the thread on this build, wonderfull.  The link Owen posted as well is very good, bookmarked it myself.

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