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 Posted: Mon Oct 25th, 2010 08:06 pm
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dooferdog wrote: Given the necessity for squareness and resilience, I think you 'deffo' have made the right choice by starting again in card.


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Doug,
I've only used foamboard as more major constructional material, but with a covering of card you can still get the precise corners needed for a neater finish.

As Perry has also found, it's not perfect, but it does have it's uses.
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Thanks for your input, serious and otherwise! I'm sure I will find out its best uses....

[Sorry Perry, for the hijack...]

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No problem, Doug. I haven't given up on using foamboard altogether; it's just not suitable for this project.

I'm continuing with making the 20 roof modules today. It's very repetitive! :thud

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I always like to have a Plan 'B' as Plan 'A' doesn't always happen.

I got a bit sidetracked as far as working on the roof modules went. I printed out the side panels for them but then it occurred to me that I might need to modify the entire roof area. I'm wondering how it would work out to have the glazed roof modules constructed to the entire width of the roof area instead of in two sections. To me, two sections would visually suggest that this was not built as a whole shed but as two narrower ones 'stuck together'. I don't want this appearance. I have therefore set about building the end wall. I can then fix this to the sidewalls and add a temporary entrance wall so that I can work out how to modify the roof.
 
If you look at the pictures that Les kindly added to this thread (page 1) you can see how the roof is made up of two rows of units side by side. The middle supporting wall is also visible. I plan on altering the roof as mentioned above, and doing away with the middle wall – just to be a bit different.
 
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It will need the ledge at the top and plinths added in due course, but I need to work out how it all goes together first. I printed two of the end wall inner and outer skins, and then stuck them to card before cutting them out, leaving a half-inch margin down one edge. When orientated correctly, the half-inch ‘tabs’ were overlapped and glued up. Six buttresses, three internal and three external, were made up and fixed in place, the middle ones concealing the overlap join between the two parts of the wall.


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Make your roof as one single unit Perry !!!

Whilst both you and Doug are way ahead of me in accuracy, unless you get each "light" perfect and them all like peas in a pod, they just don't fit !!!!  Mine didn't on Maxmill Engineering and it certainly spoils the final result.

You were (IMHO for what it's worth) very sensible to have forseen this problem.  I didn't !!!! :cry::cry::cry:



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I guess we all learn by our mistakes, and sometimes by the mistakes of others too. Thanks for the heads-up. Your experience, whilst very unfortunate for you, has provided me with some useful guidance. Thank you.

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I'm currently about half way through cutting out the 'customised' roof. I have extended the roof right across the four roads and have moved the northlight windows so that they will be centred over them.

I have clamped the parts in place just to get an idea of how it's all coming together:


 
I'm not really enjoying cutting out the 40 window apertures, but I'm over half way through them now so it won't take much longer.

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Thats going to be some GWR shed mate :thumbs.

Are we having the inside done out as well. If so will the roof be movable allowing access etc?

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now we can see it in perspective, it is a big un, hope the fingers hold up for the rest of the cuts,

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phill wrote: Thats going to be some GWR shed mate :thumbs.

Are we having the inside done out as well. If so will the roof be movable allowing access etc?

Phill

I'm still not sure about the access situation. The way the roof is constructed, I don't think I can make it as a lift-off' unit. I'm thinking that the whole building shell may have to be removeable.

I plan on detailing the area around the entrance to the shed, and a certain amount inside, but how much depends on the shell still being removeable.:hmm

By the way, Phill, your shed recognition skills still aren't up to much, I see!:pedal:lol::lol:

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owen69 wrote: now we can see it in perspective, it is a big un, hope the fingers hold up for the rest of the cuts,

:thumbs:lol::cool:

I have just this minute finished cutting all the window apertures I and think I'm going to have to give the hands a rest for the remainder of the day. Otherwise I won't be able to do much over the weekend.

It's a cracking-looking shed though. I'm really glad I decided on a version of the Scalescenes one, although I don't think I realised quite how much work was involved when I started. This card modelling isn't an easy option.

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That shed is coming on a treat Perry. Its a real test of skills and endurance ;-).

Oh" all the Gods Wonderful crowd will be so jealous to see this shed full of beautiful LMS Loco,s

Those orange roof vents look the part. just joking. :eek:

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When I started on their factory unit Perry, I thought it looked relatively easy.  It isn't difficult but my word, there's loads and loads of stuff to cut out and glue.  Certainly not a 2 minute build but still extremely satisfying and makes a super model.



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Perry wrote: phill wrote: Thats going to be some GWR shed mate :thumbs.
By the way, Phill, your shed recognition skills still aren't up to much, I see!:pedal:lol::lol:

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No problem, Perry, send it to me when completed and I'll do the necessary alterations to give it a GWR look. It will fit nicely in a corner of my GWR layout, it looks like being good enough to have been built by GWR engineers anyway.

:hmm Surely the LMS didn't have any locos smart enough to fit in such a good looking shed anyway exclam: :pedal:pedal

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Hello Perry,
This model is good-enough to grace anybodies Lay-out, mate, irrespective of GWR or LMS. Excellent modelling,
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That must be one big corner you've got left over on your layout, Jeff! Thanks for your kind offer, but as you will probably guess, I'll gratefully decline.

I have been trying to come up with a suitable name for the shed and yard. The nearest I've got is ' Bore Lake MPD', but if one says it quickly, perhaps not. :oops::lol::lol:

Thanks all for the encouraging  and kind comments.

I have some other committments over this weekend, but I'm hoping to sort out the covers for the northlight window panels if I get time. Cutting out the 40 window apertures also means that I've got 40 apertures to cut and glue the covers around and 40 windows to fix in place! :brickwall

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shunter1 wrote: That shed is coming on a treat Perry. Its a real test of skills and endurance ;-).

Oh" all the Gods Wonderful crowd will be so jealous to see this shed full of beautiful LMS Loco,s

Those orange roof vents look the part. just joking. :eek:

Have Fun ,Derek

Oh, I'm so slow this morning! It took me several minutes before I got the "orange roof vents" gag. Very funny. :doublethumb:lol::lol::lol:

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All forty 'northlight' windows have been fitted and the twenty roof side walls glued into place. The units have been temporarily clamped into place for test fitting before the roof top panels are constructed. (I used proper clamps this time as SWMBO wanted her pegs back :oops:)



I'm amazed that the units come out to exactly the right length. Wonders will never cease. :doublethumb

I won't get much more done today as I have to go and scare the cr*p out of the local kids at a Halloween event in our local woodland. Time to get even with the little.......darlings! :twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

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It's looking very very nice Perry. I would think with that roof it would be better to lift the complete assembly upward to gain access  to the interior. Perhaps if you could construct a seperate ground/floor section it could fit tight'ish to that? Would give you a chance to get work benches, etc mounted on the floor in there (i know what your llike.) Any thoughts on lighting yet ?:thumbs



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