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 Posted: Sat Sep 18th, 2010 05:28 pm
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Well here is the next project to be finished in Scalescenes Ashlar TX45 paper. I'll post as I go along, according to the text the pipes and woodwork were a dull red oxide colour and the shutters on the ground floor matched in neither size or colour, being green and two shades of brown!

I have tried using thin [1mm] strips of sticky label for the windows with little success so I guess I'll be cutting them out of photo paper again...yech!

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looking forward to this one Doof. I've stayed clear of the Scalescenes stone papers so far as I have always thought that Ashlar needed some relief to look right so will follow this with interest to see how it works out.



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Are you going to work through the whole Ahern book Doof?

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Ian Morton wrote: Are you going to work through the whole Ahern book Doof?

Hullo, Ian,

The rate I work at I'll be doing the last one at 90 years of age! It would be nice to do one of each type of building, for instance I'd love to do 'Bert's Garage' but I've nowhere for it on my layout.

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If you want to do the 'White Hart' I'd be tempted to build a layout specially to put it on! It's always been one of my favourites.

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Could you sort of have a project running, where others could try and build a building at the same time as you posting as they go and then you can show them how to do it, and help as you all move forward ?

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I'd be up that sort of challenge!



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Herewith the 'plan' for the warehouse in 4mm/1ft scale......




In the case of a building being used as a low relief structure, realism is enhanced by modelling the roof ridge line and a little of the far side of the roof. This allows flat relief materials [backdrops etc or pieces of 'tree'] to be inserted behind the top building to lessen the 'pushed up against the wall' effect. Similarly, increasing the pitch of the roof by about 50% further improves the deception as it makes it more difficult to see the other side. Some buildings, however, like the harbour office have steep pitches [45 degrees] to start with and the alteration would be unnecessary. I have over-drawn the side elevation [the hatched area] to show my intended side profile.


Woody-'I've stayed clear of the Scalescenes stone papers so far as I have always thought that Ashlar needed some relief to look right so will follow this with interest to see how it works out'. I shall do a mock-up first on plain paper, but do it on watercolour paper or acrylics paper if it looks too flat.

Ian - which White Hart?  Sorry, I've got a really thick head cold and I'm not thinking straight!

Alan/Stubby - If you want to join in with this one, I've added the overall wall to wall length of 192mm so you can scale-up the drawing above. With that, and the original, you have what I've got to work on.

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Woody-'I've stayed clear of the Scalescenes stone papers so far as I have always thought that Ashlar needed some relief to look right so will follow this with interest to see how it works out'. I shall do a mock-up first on plain paper, but do it on watercolour paper or acrylics paper if it looks too flat.



Doug - You're the first one to call me 'Woody' on the forum :thumbs, and without any prompting from me. I've been referred to as 'Woody' by my friends for forty years or more and I'm quite happy for those here to be considered my friends. Woof Woof!!

Looking forward to seeing how the Ashlar works out.

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Here is the roof arrangement and the accompanying words for anyone who wants to have a try with me!




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If you are to print out some window frames to cut out, it might help to know that '1 point' = 0.35mm when you come to set out your window frames.

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Woody wood want to know that.



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Would Woody want to, Woody would say, would he (k)not ?



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It might go against the grain.

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pnwood wrote:

Doug - You're the first one to call me 'Woody' on the forum :thumbs, and without any prompting from me. I've been referred to as 'Woody' by my friends for forty years or more and I'm quite happy for those here to be considered my friends. Woof Woof!!

Looking forward to seeing how the Ashlar works out.

Woody


:Red Card I'm reassessing the requirement of friendship after ddolfin and stubby's contribution, possible humerous content my ....... !!!! :mutley:lol::lol::lol::lol:



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"Ian - which White Hart?  Sorry, I've got a really thick head cold and I'm not thinking straight!".  See Pages 135/6 of J Ahern's book.

Do you happen to know which North Wales harbour town this building is in ? I'm guessing Conwy, or maybe Caernafon - if so, it wood (sorry, would) be good to get some photos of the building, should it still exist.

 



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Stubby47 wrote: "Ian - which White Hart?  Sorry, I've got a really thick head cold and I'm not thinking straight!".  See Pages 135/6 of J Ahern's book.

Do you happen to know which North Wales harbour town this building is in ? I'm guessing Conwy, or maybe Caernafon - if so, it wood (sorry, would) be good to get some photos of the building, should it still exist.

 


Sorry, I forgot to say I had realised which 'White Hart', it is a lovely building. Sadly it doesn't say where the warehouse really is, does it? As I don't know the area I'll have to bow to your knowledge.

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just thought I would let the  members who asked Doof about a how to  on card building
can find his tutorial in the forum index under M.
go look and learn

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Alan/Stubby - If you want to join in with this one, I've added the overall wall to wall length of 192mm so you can scale-up the drawing above. With that, and the original, you have what I've got to work on.

Doug





Love to Doug, but I have too much on at the moment, but I would love to join you on another build. :thumbs

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