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 Posted: Fri Oct 1st, 2010 04:58 am
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OK.  I've had to re-write most of the Schedules to accommodate the new magnet, but it's been well worth the trouble.  As a bonus I was able to reduce the Puzzle by two Schedules.  It has made the shuffles 100% reliable and it makes a good show.  I can put a believable break in the middle as well; where the loco returns to the shed, shuts it's engine down and waits for a few minutes before resuming work.

Following some more shunting, the loco returns to the shed a second time and shuts down.  By adding Schedule 1 to the end List of the final Schedule it is possible to make the layout run ad nauseum.

I'm not sure how to make a meaningful movie of it as it runs for about 20 minutes and won't fit on YouTube (and would probably be a bit boring anyway).

I've now got a useful platform to investigate some of TC's other features.    Thanks again to the guys who got me through.  :thumbs 



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Max, do you think you will be able to convince Ian to get it installed on his Exhibition layout in time for the 9th & 10th of this month? It will make life easier for us operators on his layout that weekend then !

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He's coming over tomorrow to get his tagging done.  I'll ask him then.  Don't hold your breath.  :mutley



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I take it that is success Max? mission complete. I think thats it mate you have caught me up and by the sounds of it passed me!

It's a big well done mate,  :doublethumbas for the video i'd like to see your wagon exchange in your first section and the kadee action if you can?

I must investigate the kadees i'm still using tension hooks which ain't bad.

I was sorting CV3 on my tanks last night so i can get a nice gentle acceleration, got some nice results but it has a knock on effect that the shuffle is less jerky to release the tension locks:cry:.

The only thing thats frustrating me is the unreliability of my points so when i move the layout it will be slo mo motors, still yet to make a decsicion on them, choice between the cobalt and the Traintronics TT300, if i opt for the latter i can off load the LS150's on ebay to offset the cost.

Well done again Max i think we should work on signalling (i bet that is massive) and some little ditty's using VC's and Action markers with sound which i have work to do on.

Who's coming this weekend Max? the Duke of Edinburgh? sounds like an important guest to impress  good luck anyway.



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Thanks, Pete.  I put 6 into CV3 which gives a smoother take off, but the downside is that you need 3 seconds of delay on the motor command in the shuffle, before it will move.  Then it moves about 20 mm.  Anything less and it won't move at all.  At least I'm getting clean releases every time.

Now I've got it all to run, I'll experiment with 2 plus parts of a second to see if I can improve it.  For the moment I'm just thrilled to watch it go up and down.

I was lucky and got a job lot of 30 odd Tortoise motors cheap from someone who was changing over to rods.  I've used them before and they work well - especially with the double pivot set up.  Once they have thrown it's almost impossible to move the throw bar, even with the power off.  The new DCC Concepts Cobalts sound like they are at least as good.

I'll try to make a video of the bits you are interested in.  It's a public holiday here on Monday, so I hope to get a bit of free time then.  Tomorrow Iansa is coming over so I can test and tag his layout power supplies and leads.  Here in SA all mains powered equipment has to have tags on it before it can be used in any public place.

Sunday our band has a gig at a festival, so not much free time that day, so I'll do my best to get it done Monday.

Iansa is important.  :mutley    He's the President of our club, http://www.decca.net.au and he got me started with Loksound, so you know from experience how much patience that would have taken.   :oops:

My next challenge is to get the coupler sound to play.  Action markers?

I'll be watching your progress as well.  Cheers.



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MaxSouthOz wrote: Iansa is important.  :mutley    He's the President of our club, http://www.decca.net.au and he got me started with Loksound, so you know from experience how much patience that would have taken.   :oops:

My next challenge is to get the coupler sound to play.  Action markers?

I'll be watching your progress as well.  Cheers.

 

Max can i see you doing a seminar at your club titled "the addiction known as Traincontroller and its side effects" it should make a good death by Powerpoint presentation.

Yeah I would try an action marker (cheers JD i know now) at the same distance as the stop marker with a bit of a delay before the sound plays. Looks easy Max (he says looking on from a safe distance).

Have a good weekend and i hope Ian is suitably impressed.

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Well done Max:doublethumb

I am so pleased it has worked out so well........congratulations

I dont quite understand the post count but if my calculation is correct this is my 500th post.........which I have been saving for this occasion:Happy:Happy

 

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well done Max, when i get to this stage i know who to ask:mrgreen:

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Thanks, guyz.  :thumbs



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Another clinic for next years NMRA Convention then Max ??

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:hmm  how will I get my layout in the car?



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Sol wrote: Max, do you think you will be able to convince Ian to get it installed on his Exhibition layout in time for the 9th & 10th of this month? It will make life easier for us operators on his layout that weekend then !
Settle down Sol. The Ecos will give you all the help you will need.;-)

 



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El Presidente checks it out . . .




. . . I wish I'd combed my hair.   :mutley



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Look Ma - no handsexclam:

 

Mr El Presidente  - can ECOS do that quest: 

 

Now Max, you need to add some  scenery

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Sol wrote: Now Max, you need to add some  scenery

. . . any time you're ready, Sol.  You still have one night free each week.  :twisted:



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I can feel the tension in that photo:mutley will it work? will it fail to uncouple? nah! the effort that went into that it will run the schedule faultlessly.

As Brian (Henryparrot) would say when it finishes flawlessly "a true Condor moment!"

Sol, course ECOS can do it! :doublethumbbut it will need Traincontroller Gold @ £400!:twisted::twisted::twisted::mutley



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Great Photo Max................now I can see the curves its no wonder you had problems.

Is the piece of paper the list of the 26 (?) schedules? Great Idea............I scribble mine on the back of an envelope but a permanent hard copy makes a ton of sense



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Thanks, John.  Yes.  I always try to make things as hard for myself as I can.  :lol:

re the piece of paper:-  That's one of several screen shots (it's actually a shuffle).  I have one of a block with about three B&S markers EACH WAY, one of the shuffle, etc.  My visitors often ask how it all works and it helps to explain it.

It leaves my hands free to intervene in the Grand Scheme as required.   :mutley



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Spent very pleasant afternoon with Max and his RR&Co.

 Automation is not my bag but am in absolute awe at what RR&Co is capable of and appreciate the time and effort Max has put in to get it to the stage he has. No doubt he will do much more with it.

To see a loco with small amount of acceleration/ deceleration rate shuffling over a Kadee uncoupling magnet then push and spot a wagon in a siding is nothing short of amazing.

 I must admit, Max was nervous at the start of the demo but the system worked flawlessly

 The shunting loco doing the work has done 1500 scale kilometers (according to RR&Co) during Max's journey with RR&Co so far..

After the RR&Co demo Max re tagged all my transformers, extension cords etc for the upcoming Noarlunga clubs MR exhibition next weekend. 

 Thanks Max.

sol wrote
Mr El Presidente  - can ECOS do that quest:

As Wogga said "yes" l

 Like any other DCC system it would only take the addition of RR&Co :roll:




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