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 Posted: Thu Nov 11th, 2010 06:05 am
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 Posted: Sat Nov 13th, 2010 09:35 pm
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:mrgreen:Looking great Max:mrgreen::mrgreen:, how come you ain't been asking questions during the build:mutley



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 Posted: Sat Nov 13th, 2010 09:41 pm
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Thanks, Pete.  I have been having some problems with glueing the aluminium to the styrene, so I started another thread on it.

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=7638&forum_id=19&highlight=glue

I've abandoned that idea now and I'll construct a chassis out of styrene instead.  It could take a minute or two.  :mutley



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I've constructed a chassis from 3 mm styrene.



It's very stiff and strong.  It will be even stronger as the details are aded.




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Just think what you could get done if you did not have to go stretching passages!

We can sit on it to go to Melbourne next year - in fact probably room for a few NMRA bods.

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Yep.  I'm pretty happy with it, Sol.  :thumbs



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Styrene really is an underrated construction material, as You commented in the glueing thread, a return to Aircraft modelling theories and adding lots of stiffeners in unseen places is the way to go. Mek or other such liquid glues are such a boon too. Being able to hold parts together and brushing the liquid along the join is much easier than applying glue than positioning too...

Those bogies look stunning !

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a nice job Max,as said those bogies do look stunning,eager to see the next bit now.

:doublethumb:lol::lol::cool:

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Thanks, John and Owen.  I become more enamoured of styrene by the day, John.  Also the glue I'm using is MEK plus a couple of additives, so it sticks to a lot of stuff.  I does dissolve paint, though.  Could be another use for it . . . :twisted:



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Max maybe a funny question but its an honest one, when you started this build did you shoot off and buy in a large stock of modelling supplies, assorted styrene, a variety of wire gauges etc, or do you wait to get to each stage then have a root around to see what you have to hand and use that?

What material planning have you actually done and what have you used for reference for the construction? i can see the line drawing but how does that become 3 dimensional?



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Hi Pete.  My motivation was to have a go at a large model to accommodate the larger sound decoder.  I foolishly thought the NR would be a safe choice as it seemed to be mostly flat panels.  I have been watching JohnTeal (RJR), building in G for a while and he offered to help.  John builds in styrene so it made sense to go with that material.  I questioned him via PMs and found that MEK glue works best, etc.

I found a set of drawings via a local model rail forum, downloaded them and printed them off the right size.  I glued them to a piece of MDF so I can take measurements from them.  I have surfed the net and found many photos which I use for references as I can go back to them via their links when I need to.  Sol has a friend who drives an NR for a living.  He has kindly taken photos of the running gear and emailed them to me.

I think about what I'm going to make next and then look for the bits.  For example, the springs are actually 1/4" bolts cut down to their threads.  The shock absorbers are two pieces of brass tube, one inside the other.  Rigid piping is 1/16" piano wire.  It's one of my favourites as it can be bent shape with pliers and my fingers.  I have made farm gates from it in the past; soldering the bits together using Bakers Soldering Flux and resin core solder.

When I go to buy materials, I don't just buy one piece.  For example, piano wire comes in plastic tubes - about 6 x 600 mm lengths per tube, so I buy a whole tube.  When I go to the model shop, I'll buy brass tubing in three or four sizes.  Some of the shapes on the bogie frames are washers and just random bits of offcuts of styrene, glued on.

Before I started, I realised that the standard sizes of styrene were going to be too small to cut the large panels from, so I approached the model shop owner and bought 1200 x 1200 sheets before he cut them up.  At bulk pricing, I bought 1 sheet of 3mm and one sheet of 2 mm.  I have several sheets of 1 mm from an earlier foray.  A bonus comes when making up spacers.  If you have 3, 2 and 1 mm offcuts, you can make spacers of any thickness by stacking any combination of the three sizes and  you can then have many spacers all of a reliable thickness.

Today I went shopping for the large tanks on the starboard side.  The plans told me what diameter they are, so I went to the local hardware shop.  Wandering around I came across 16 mm OD plastic electrical conduit.  $6.70 for 5 metres - $1.34/metre.  I have enough to make 50 NRs!  It looks like it might be OK.  If it's not, it might become something else.

I'm lucky also being semi retired and able to take time out to winkle stuff out.   I have to say that I'm more an impressionist than a fine scale modeller.  I'm happy if people can recognise the model for what it is supposed to be.

I have to say that I wouldn't have attempted this first scratchbuild without the support of this forum.

Is that a plausible answer to your question?  :lol:



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Pete, you can blame me if you want to - I introduced Max to the forum yonks ago & from this, he got into more scenery & all that goes with it including RR & Co.

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"MEK dissolves Paint" I found by accident that enamel paint and to some extent Celulose paint not only dissolve but also create a cracked/crazed effect, ideal for weathering when a bit of dirty colour is introduced :)

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Fascinating thread, this really coming on a treat Max.  :doublethumb

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Max i am truly amazed and really impressed. I am just going to sit back and watch because i  find it fascinating how, with effort and imagination what peeps can do with regular materials. Makes me feel a fraud honestly as i await several railway building components to complete by station "scratchbuild".

Keep going in your tenacious way its going to be a cracker!

Ron you are dead right about the forum its glows with help, advice and supportive words.

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OK, me Heartys.  A bit more progress.

Here's a shot of the chassis upside down looking from the port side.




We think that these cabinets are filters on the air receivers for the compressed air.




This is the starboard side.  We think that these are air tanks for compressed air.  The main frame is the fuel tank, so what else can they be?

These two shots hopefully show the construction of the chassis.  It is becoming immensely strong.  Now how does it look on the bogies?




Port side.




Starboard side.  Please excuse the parallax as some idiot has put a stonking great model train layout in the way.

You should be starting to get an idea of how it will look. 



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"You should be starting to get an idea of how it will look."

... and it looks very good.



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The easy part done now - wait for the body work :mutley

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It's certainly looking like the beginnings of an NR, Max. I'm looking forward to seeing the body go on.

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Thanks, Pete.  Re the body, the front and rear bodywork below the side walkways level will be built permanently on to the chassis.  Then everything above the decks will be built so it can be lifted off.  My plan is to screw it on from below.

However, the lower bodywork is next.

I'm glad you can recognise it even at this early stage, Rick.  I'm really happy with how it is shaping up.



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