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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 08:34 am
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Proper job Doof :doublethumb

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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 08:57 am
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Not sure what to say Doug.  I've not only followed your other "building" threads on here, but I've actually seen your buildings in real life so know just how good they are.  This one is certainly up there with them.  It's also very educational seeing how you approach a scratch build.

As ever, it's not merely "what" you do, it's the accuracy with which you do it that amazes me.  Those clean crisp lines and sharp corners are, to me, the very devil in small scale.



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Er, thanks, chaps....I shall bring one or two models with me as aids to my possible 'talk' if someone else goes poorly.  I'd like someone to do an LED that fits in a 4mm ID tube with a couple of  wire tails to connect to a battery, just to see if my idea works for lighting the interior......


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dooferdog wrote: :oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:

Er, thanks, chaps....I shall bring one or two models with me as aids to my possible 'talk' if someone else goes poorly. ...........................................


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I thought this was going to be more than a "possible talk" Doug - I thought it had been fixed that you'd do a presentation sometime on the Sunday....................:roll::roll::roll::roll:



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Doug, for your LED try http://www.kyteslights.com . They are at the Truro show this weekend, but have lots of info on the website.

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Peter he is booked in for a demonstration/talk on sunday his audience awaits:lol::lol:


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Thanks Brian - that's what I thought - good news !! :thumbs



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Now for some chimbleys.....


Not much to go on in the original picture so here goes.....


I have decided to use balsa wood as the main body of the stacks with a built-up card plinth on top, pots rolled from paper  and covered with Scalescenes brown brick Stretcher Bond TX11.  This bond is single thickness so as to leave a flue-way in the centres. Very probably the tops would have been flat and open when the building was first built, but later capped and fitted with pots when stoves and grates were installed.

Here is how I put a covering of paper on a plinth,



the next picture shows how I imitate the layer of mortar in which the pots are bedded [the flaunching] using a piece of watercolour paper. I have rolled the chimney pots as at

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=5490&forum_id=11&highlight=doofer+chimney+pots

but for the smaller chimney I have used some stripped off brown rubber cable covering pushed over two small panel pins for a change.





finally a 'so far' picture. Any questions, please shout out.








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Stubby, thanks for the link to the Kyteslites site, just the job, but sadly another half hour of my life passed just lookin' in!

I forgot to say that I have fixed the chimneys in place by drilling through the roof at the appropriate places, then securing a block of wood inside into which I have glued a toothpick, a mating hole in each chimney fits over the protruding toothpick, all 'a l'Ahern'.

Flashing is yet to do, a process I dislike!


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Well, it didn't go so badly, it is such a fiddly job though.

I'm not too happy with the Scalescenes flashing download as it is 'wiggly' down both sides, looking at references the lead is cut in in a zig-zag to the side of the stack and goes in a straight line down the side of the tiles so I've cut the zig-zags off of one side. No doubt a builder would say it isn't fit for purpose, but it will have to do!

The dreaded presentation is taking up a bit of time, so I'll have to press on today, the garden needs some attention before we travel to UK, sadly looks like our precious raspberries will be ready to pick while we are away......:sad:


Keep doin' it,

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That looks brilliant Doug - I really like those chimney stacks and ridge tiles :thumbs

How are the ridge and hip tiles done ?  Surely not laid as individual tiles ? :shock::shock::shock:

It really looks like an old roof and even the camera isn't showing any faults.  You're dead right about the flashing - the lead is set into the mortar courses on the chimney and lies under the tiles on the roof (usually on flat timber supports) - hence the "wiggly" stack profile and "straight" roof profile.  On this occasion, and rather unusually,  Scalescenes have got it wrong :roll:



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Hullo, Peter,

Thank you for your kind remarks, the ridge/hip tiles are simply a strip of tile shapes, coloured filled the same as the roof tile download, printed out onto 140gm/m2 watercolour paper and carefully cut into the individual tapered tile shapes. Then I pressed a blunt blade in  between each adjacent tile to enhance the 'separateness' of them, bent them around a 60 degree angled piece of wood and stuck them on.  UNFORTUNATELY.....the PVA made the paper swell up virtually eradicating the neatly impressed line!

However, next time I shall give them a coat of matt varnish before I 'crimp' them! Here they are in case anyone wants them.



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Here we go, just about finished, I shan't put the little bits of guttering at this stage as it has to travel.











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Oh YESSS !!!  Brilliant Doug, absolutely first class bit of modelling there.

How did you do the mossy bits on the roof - I presume the yellow bits are powders but what's the "3D" moss ?

And the columns ?  Are they dowel ?

Although it's basically "flat" paper coverings, it really does look to have texture and depth.  Now I know what those 7 pairs of specs from +1.5 to +700 on your desk are for..............:roll::roll::lol:

Again. I really love the hip tiles and corner tiles but my word, they really must be incredibly fiddly things to fit. :???::???:



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Just caught this thread as you concluded the build.

Another masterpiece Doug, the weathering finishes it off nicely and I would like to know what you have used for the textured bits of moss on the roof as well.

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Petermac wrote: How did you do the mossy bits on the roof - I presume the yellow bits are powders but what's the "3D" moss ?

And the columns ?  Are they dowel ?


Hullo Peter and PNW,

Thank you for your kind remarks, the yellow bits are two different water colours, the '3D' moss, a litte over scale, is the dust in the bottom of a Woodland  Scenics bag of medium green foliage stuff mixed with 50/50% PVA and water, sorry, Mr Ahern, I couldn't face the job of rubbing dry bran through a horse-hair sieve and dying it!

The columns are made from the stick holding up the potted orchid in the bathroom, 'whizzed' in the pillar drill with some sand paper and them painted with flat off-white. [Shelagh hasn't yet seen the plastic knitting needle that has taken its place......:shock: I 'ave zat pleasure to come...]

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I am sure Mr Ahern wouldnt mind you didnt follow his recipe for lichen for the roof .  Absolutely outstanding job Doof , an absolute credit to you and a fitting tribute to Mr Aherns inspiration to many of us .

Mind you I dont fancy being in your shoes when Shelagh notices the replacement knitting needle especially if its one she uses . You may find its put to a use that doesnt involve creating garments from wool . Could be painfull  !:hmm



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You may find its put to a use that doesnt involve creating garments from wool . Could be painfull  !:hmm

but can be surgically removed now a days :mutley:mutley

a lovely model too.

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Absolutely stunning! I should not have questioned your method for the corners, they look perfect.

I've also followed your advice on how to get square edges to Scalescenes paper corners, and purchased a seam roller for the larger flat areas.

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Absolutely top class, Doug. Brilliant work.

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