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 Well, this is my 4th attempt at starting my layout thread.  So if Robert’s gremlins are having the day off, it works & you are all bored to death, then blame Brian (HenryParrot) for his kind help and encouragement. I can’t believe it’s nearly 12 months since I joined the Forum, so here goes.
 
Looking through other threads, it would appear my modelling life has followed a lot of other members, with short periods of modelling interspersed with long interruptions from the other demands of life.  In our 38 years of married life, we have never been in a house longer than 5 years, so no sooner had conversion of walk in wardrobe or spare bedroom begun than another move was on the cards & all plans had to be scrapped.
 
How we ended up in S.A. is another story – suffice to say that I decided to call it a day at 50 & because of my wife’s severe Rheumatoid Arthritis we wanted to live somewhere warm.  One of the reasons why I picked our current house was – four garages!  One normal double + one extra large double with doors both ends.  These let us store all our furniture & belongings while we worked on the house.  After a few years settling in, I decided it was time to put a lifetime’s worth of study, planning & collecting into practice & get cracking with my railway.
 
I bought a shed & that cleared out all the gardening tools & boxes of stuff yet to be unpacked that I haven’t got the heart to throw away.  Then I extended the smaller garage to match the larger, tiled the floor, put in a ceiling & extra lights & electrics.  Even leaving a walkway for access to the other garage, this has given me an area approx. 5M x 5M.
 
 
 
 
 
This is the room just after being finished.  The door on the right goes to my bathroom & the kitchen (so no need for the rest of the house really!) & the door on the left goes through to the other playroom (cars & motorbikes).  I decided to leave the garage door (just fitted some windows) so this can be opened for extra light.  It’s South facing so never gets too hot.
 
 
 
 
 
The door on the right is the railway room.
 
I didn’t come to S.A. to spend hours in a garage, & I wanted to keep the room as clear of clutter as possible.  There was an area at the back of the 2nd garage, North facing & sheltered & not being used.  So I put up a car port, tiled it & this has made a great place to work.  I bought 2 stainless steel tables from a café that was closing down, & these have made ideal workbenches.  Even now in the middle of Winter it’s warm enough between 10 am & 4 pm to sit & work.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
This is my view from the workbench.
 
My small branch terminus to fiddle yard layout survived the container journey quite well, but when it was offloaded I stupidly put it on the floor in the corner of the garage while more pressing matters were dealt with.  The removal guys thought this would be a good place to lay paintings down, so that put paid to most of the tall structures.  Later, we found that the gardener thought it made a nice seat (don’t ask, this is Africa) & that finished off signals, trees & telegraph poles.  Then our St Bernard pup thought she’d have a go at landscaping & took a nice chunk out of the embankment.  I did think of scrapping it, but the track was OK & converting it to DCC has taught me a lot.  My proposed plan incorporates a branch so it has survived, although most structures will be replaced.
 
 
 


One corner of the layout that survived undamaged - down by the loco shed (scheduled for repaint)




This is the plan that I intend to use.  It was designed for 'N' but I can just squeeze it in the space I've got.  I like it because it gives plenty of operating interest - a factory, a wood yard, the small branch to the dock & the branch to my existing terminus, which I think will call 'Easewood'.  I've studied plans for a lifetime & haven't found one I like more - you'll see it's from 1979!


Baseboard building is now underway.  The main station, goods yard & loco shed will be on flat baseboards, but from the dock end of the platforms will be open plan because of the multiple levels - track down to road, down to quayside & down again to sea level.  I was originally going to do a double 'roundy roundy' with another through station representing the LSWR junction, but progress to date being so slow I thought it was getting too ambitious.  I've now decided on a single 'roundy roundy' with hidden sidings at the opposite end to the junction, but I'll extend the branch to incorporate a small through station on the way to Easewood.  This will be over the main-line hidden sidings.





A couple of pics of Easewood:





The gangers have just finished the new point work at the station throat.  The off duty loco man is telling them that up North they paint their locos Red!  The gangers (one of whom is obviously an alien - must re-do those eyes) think he must have had too much nutty slack in his tea - who ever heard of Red locos?

The loco area is to be all rebuilt with an ash pit, coal stage etc & the track re-ballasted with ash.

Well, I've just checked &, apart from 2 frights when I clicked 'insert photo from gallery' & it just took me straight to the home page, everything appears in order.  So no excuses, got to keep the momentum up now.  Hope no one has slit their wrists yet - Brian - you asked for it!



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Very nice, wish I had that sort of space. I know what you mean about short periods of modelling interspersed with long interruptions from other demands of life..... so what bike(s) do you have in the other playroom:cool wink



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Now that is a super room for a layout, and a great start you have already. Repairing that missing chunk should be no problem, from the looks of what you have accomplished already.

Enjoyed reading all of this, so keep the postings coming.

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Hi Nick.  These are my current bikes.  I've had the Firestorm since 1998 & brought it over from the UK - still has 'get out of jail fee' UK plates!  When I'm stopped I say I'm touring!  I've never kept a bike so long but I really like it.  Misses out at top end (240kph max) but a great all rounder.  I took it to the Nurburgring 3 times before coming here.  I bought the Blackbird here.





One of the reasons I left the UK was all the nonsensical hysteria about speeding & the proliferation of cameras.  It is changing here but it will be a while before it gets as bad as the UK.  Every Sunday morning here is like Mad Sunday on the IOM - game on!



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Nice pictures Kaiser.Looking forward to lots more too as the layout develops.

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It was worth the wait, Kaiser.  Thank you.  :thumbs



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Great start Mal, well done for perservering, well worth the effort.
Apart from what must be a very steep gradient on the branch down to the docks I DO like that layout plan and look forward to seeing it develop.

... and while we're taking about our other toys... here's mine.

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Hey guys - maybe we should start a bike thread? :hmm  Like your Beemer Nick, but I never managed to get on with shaft drive.  That 1100S is one of the best looking BM have made - love the pipes under the tail.  Marty - rode a VStrom around Kyalami a few years back.  Great bike & very popular here as there are lots of off-road trails.

Marty - there is about 9 feet on the dock branch to take the tracks low enough to pass under the main line.  Do you think that will be enough?  I'll start the drop immediately after the switch to the docks, & I'm thinking of extending off the side of the baseboard there so as not to waste those first 5 feet.  All gradients worry me, but the Easewood branch will have about 4 meters to climb to clear the hidden sidings - I think that will be OK.

Thanks for everyone's comments & encouragement!

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I like that plan. Lots of trackwork yet it's nicely spacious. I wouldn't have thought a fairly steep incline to the docks would be too much of a problem if you are only shuffling a handful of wagons up and down.

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The Norton picture takes me back to the days of my AJS 600 twin and the Triumph Bonneville, great machines, smooth as silk and could be ridden very quietly. I say quietly because I used to pride myself on being able to move through the country side swiftly but quietly.



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Poacher eh!!!:lol::mutley:mutley:mutley



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"One of the reasons I left the UK was all the nonsensical hysteria about speeding"

I wish the bikers wouldn't put their heads in my lane when they are doing their speeding on blind bends.
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There's a difference between speeding, i.e. transgressing an arbitrary & in many cases inappropriate speed limit, & dangerous driving, i.e driving like an idiot. The trouble is that it's now PC to class the former with the latter, i.e. thedogsthingies.

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Well, while you guys have been jolling it up at the Cornwall show (& a great success it seems to have been - well done!) some of us poor isolated Southern Hemisphere colonials have been battling with the last days of Winter.  Here's Sandra braving the cold two days before Spring & hoping for warmer days ahead:



On the railway front, I've run out of baseboard wood until more funds are forthcoming, so have been doing some wagon & building er ... building.  I got some Bachmann cattle wagons to save kit building - here's one next to a more dimensionally correct Coopercraft that I made some years ago:



I've re-wheeled & re-lettered the Bachmann, & although the inaccuracies don't bother me that much, to be honest unless you're going to run the Bachmann as is 'out of the box' by the time you've bought the transfers & the wheels & messed about you might as well make the kit.

The Mogul in the background is just about to run around the afternoon through coaches from Ottersford.  The bare space in the foreground is the site for the cattle dock.

I've had a delivery of track & have started laying out for Ottersford - it's made me realise what a mammoth task lies ahead with ballasting, wiring etc before anything can actually run.  However, constant reference to the Forum helps me realise I'm not the only one with ambitious projects in hand.  Unfortunately, Cindy, my beautiful St Bernard (see previous pics) has just been diagnosed with Lymph cancer at 5 years old, so I've not been in much of a mood for serious concentration.



Question - I notice when opening my new delivery of points (I know a GW man shouldn't call them that) that there is a dangly wire:



I'm running DCC - is this something I should be concerned about.  It must be a new thing as my last delivery didn't have them.




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Sorry the here about Cindy Mal not easy when a family pet becomes seriously ill like that.

Re the points never seen a dangly wire must be a new thing not sure what thats for is there nothing on the instructions saying what it is.

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Ditto from me as regards Cindy.We lost Pip this time last year,and Holly fell very ill just before Christmas.They're just like members of the family in my eyes!

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I think the dangly wire is connected to the live frog, to allow switching of polarity when the point changes. A quick test with a multimeter will confirm.

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Yes, that wire is for frog switching.
http://brian-lambert.co.uk/Electrical-2.htm down the page to Live frog (Electrofrog) points

Even this site has some info
http://www.peco-uk.com/imageselector/Files/Instruction%20sheets/Code75ConTurnoutInst.pdf

it refers to concrete points but the principle is the same.

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Thanks for all the kind comments guys.  The vet called Friday with the results of the biopsy & has put Cindy on Chemotherapy - he won't of course commit himself as to how long she might have.  Unbelievably, we lost our 2 year old GSD to exactly the same thing last year - talk about lightening striking twice!  Anyway, Cindy has had an OK weekend - she's got her appetite back (she hadn't eaten for three days which is why we went to the vet in the first place) & you would have to know her to realise there was anything wrong.  However, little Max last year was gone in four weeks after diagnosis so we're keeping fingers crossed.

Sol - thanks for the links.  Great - I've now got to cut wires & mess about on the 40+ points for this layout.  Yippee!  I have had that blade shorting problem since I converted Easewood to DCC so it's probably better to be safe & do the modification.
Brian - you know we only read the instructions when all else fails!! :oops:

Michael - we came over from Southport in the North West - the seaside town without any sea!

Anyway, should be getting some funds in next week that will enable me to buy the rest of the wood needed to complete the baseboards. I can't really start laying the track proper for Ottersford as you will see from the plan that at the right-hand end of the station it gets quite complicated with multi-levels, the main line crossing an estuary & the dock branch - & all on a curve - so I need to get the 'vee' bridge built before I can get the alignments!  Didn't want to start with anything simple!

Been building a PC Models coach kit today that I've had for years - deary me, everything takes so long!  Most of the day spent on my hands & knees trying to find some 4mm x 1mm wafer thin transfers that a small gust of wind had caught before I had time to fix them - one of the perils of an outdoor workbench. I'll post some pics if it ever gets finished!

Cheers for now.

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Well, I’m still waiting for a couple of deals to come off so I can buy the rest of the baseboards, so in the meantime I’ve been doing a bit more work on Easewood, that has now acquired a goods shed (Wills Craftsman).  My first attempt at weathering a building. 






I've also done a bit of work on the platform but I'm waiting for a water crane & some lamps to complete.  Old Jim the porter is very pleased with the blooms on his peonies this year!



Thought I'd get away with just painting the tank on that Prairie - the camera is cruel!

As it seems to be 'tree season' on the Forum, I thought I'd have a go.  First up, two made from a Woodland Scenics kit I've had for donkey's years.



Station Road, Easwood on a quiet afternoon.  Station stables at the end of the road.



Looking across the station from the footpath to the loco shed.

I'm now making one from twisted wire & glue gun, but I started it before I read Marty's post about dipping in gunge!  I've just ordered 70 trees from China on EBay for the princely sum of £15!  I don't know how good they will be but they sure will save some time!  I'll post when I've received them.

I've also invested in a static flock applicator - as Chris Nevard said, it's only the same price as that next loco you don't really need.  I got one from the States for $80 - again, I'll post when I've given it a try.  Just waiting for some flock!

Cheers for now.

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Yes I'm liking this too Mal, what a super layout. Great photos, I love the shot of Station Road.

I'm not sure about that lime-washing on the cattle wagon though as I believe I read somewhere that the practice ceased (was banned) in the early 1920's.

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Hi Nick - I'm modelling pre-grouping so early 20's we are in (allegedly)!



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Kaiser wrote:
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That's ok then Mal;-)

Is that an old Prototype Models (at least that's who I think it was) stable block facing down Station Road ?



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Lovely work Mal, re the 'dangly wire' see here, hope it helps!


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Mal some great work there you are really starting to make that look very impressive.

I like the Wills kits myself when someone first buys them and opens the box they get a shock when all you get is the wills sheets and drawings but after you have done a few you get into the routine of doing them.

Keep up the good work Mal

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The branch is looking really good Mal......I am enjoying this thread a lot

I was sorry to hear about your dogs.....the same thing happened to us a few years ago.....its a devastating experience



Michael - we came over from Southport in the North West - the seaside town without any sea!

Small world........I originally came from Formby!

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Nice scenes, Mal.
Give Cindy a pat for me.

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Hmmm, I've got a cousing in South Africa, might have to see about a visit in a couple of years time and arrange an operating session on Ottersford Junction at the same time.

Coming along very nicely  Mal. I too like the shot along station road.

Did you weather the roof of the goods shed? it still looks a little too clean for my eyes.  The walls and detail are great.

... and well done for joining in the October Tree Project. Did you find the Woodland Scenics tree pack worth while?

 



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Hello Mal,
Part of my favourite era(1898-1938). The Goods Yard is that "busy doing nothing, but, you can feel the energy going in to it". Love the Station Road and Cottage. I hope "woofter" is responding well to treatment,
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Thanks for all kind comments guys - & concern for Cindy



It's now 6 weeks since diagnosis.  She had on Monday her 3rd Chemo. treatment, & just like humans she has good days & bad days.  She was fine till Wed then went right off her food & everything else. Today she's full of beans, been for a walk round the park, eaten half a kilo of roast ham & chased the chickens round the garden.  She says thanks to Bisto for his concern but she still won't share her bone

(Just checked this post & the gremlins have struck again & deleted everything after this so will now redo everything & try again.)



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OK, 2nd try for this post.

Marty - I did weather the roof but this photo was taken just after a heavy fall of rain :mrgreen:! I'd had the Woodland's kit for some time.  I found it very easy, but they are expensive now (especially here) at about £12 for a 3 tree kit.  I've just finished my first 'twisted wire & glue gun' tree:



Reasonably pleased with it but I think it needs more branches.  The gap on the right further up the road is where a low relief Station Master's house & a pub will be - it will be my first attempt at scratch building as I can't find a suitable kit. (& I think that wall needs some buttresses).




The cost was next to nothing except time, & I think if you could work out a production line then it's not worth the cost of the Woodland's.  I'm interested to see what my 'Chinese' trees will be like (£15 for 70) as if they are any good for that price it's not worth making them.

Marty - if you, or any other member of the forum, wants to come visit SA then you are more than welcome to stay.  We don't work & have plenty of room, so if you don't mind dog hairs & slobber (Sandra can get excited) then we can have a good time. (Can also go on some brilliant bike rides).

Nick - the stable is a 'Builder Plus' kit I got off Ebay some time - don't know if they are still in production.



I scored the roof tiles & wood detail for a bit of relief (to the building, not me) & the Ivy hides the corner joins!  I made the trough out of balsa wood & the water is Sandra's clear nail varnish.  The station gates need a re-paint.

John - small world indeed.  My Mum was born in Freshfield & lived in Formby most of her life.  I've had many a long dog walk in the Pinewoods!  Don't know when you left but it's full of posh scousers now!

I got a note this morning that my parcel of static fibres had arrived.  Went up to the Post Office but they had been raided last night & had all their computers stolen so they couldn't process anything!  Was looking forward to using my new static gun this weekend.  Ah well, lots of other things to do!

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Nick - the stable is a 'Builder Plus' kit I got off Ebay some time - don't know if they are still in production.



Ah yes, Builders Plus, that's the one. Don't think it's available anymore but a nice little building that's just crying out for Doug to do his own interpretation;-)



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Love the 'rockery'.
The rest looks good too.

The Red Squirrels in Formby are good to see but they've become very imprinted on the visitors' nuts.
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Kaiser wrote: Nick - the stable is a 'Builder Plus' kit I got off Ebay some time - don't know if they are still in production.



I scored the roof tiles & wood detail for a bit of relief (to the building, not me) & the Ivy hides the corner joins!  I made the trough out of balsa wood & the water is Sandra's clear nail varnish.  The station gates need a re-paint.





Thats a charming cameo Mal......very nicely modelled.

When one considers how prevalent the use of Horses on the Railways was..... right up to Nationalisation, its amazing you dont see more stables on branch layouts (I am embarrassed to say mine is off scene on Granby;-))

Even when the horses were gone the buildings,which by virtue of their original purpose were quite distinctive, remained. Often converted to garages or stores. But as I said ,rarely modelled and I dont know of any kits currently available......maybe another "really useful building for Ddolfelin? 

John - small world indeed.  My Mum was born in Freshfield & lived in Formby most of her life.  I've had many a long dog walk in the Pinewoods!  Don't know when you left but it's full of posh scousers now!


I have been in Canada for 30 years now so I would guess its before your time. I lived there when I was at school from 1947- 1955. I did my basic Army Training there as well.....and then we lived there after I was married from 1967-1972. We lived on a development not far from the Pinewoods, built on a field I used to herd cows across when I was a boy.  The Army Depot had long gone as well and we ex locals used to irritate the posh scousers  living in the new houses there by calling it the"Barracks Estate" .................all a long time ago



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John Dew wrote: the posh scousers  living in the new houses there by calling it the"Barracks Estate" .................all a long time ago


Are not the words 'posh' and 'scousers' mutually exclusive?


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...and all the old jokes come to mind:

"What do you call a scouser in a detached house?"  A burglar.

"What do you call a scouser in a suit?"  The accused.
There were some more, but my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.


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Well, my ghast is absolutely flabbered to find one of my old photos nominated for header pic., but I'm also amazed to see that it's October since I last updated this thread.  First, excuses - our beautiful Cindy lost her 3-month battle with the big 'C' just before Christmas (see earlier in the thread). I've loved all my dogs but never been so attached to one as that big slobbery hairball & she left a huge hole & I didn't really feel up to much.  Then our little Shepherd Jan (the other one in the photo) was diagnosed with osteoarthritis of the spine that is putting pressure on her windpipe & making it hard for her to swallow or breathe properly.  So not much luck on the canine front.  Then I got involved in a business deal with a guy who's turned out to be a conman, fraudster & inveterate liar that cost me R100, 000 (about £10, 000) - a tidy sum in the UK but a fortune over here where a policeman's salary is about R8, 000 a month.  I think I might recover about 50% but as you can imagine it's not left much time for the railway!

So excuses over, what's been happening?  Well, all baseboards just about finished & track laying started at Ottersford - first trains have run on the sweeping approach to the station:







No points have been laid yet as I've been following Perry's 'Plank Road' thread with avid interest & decided to go the 'Hex Frog Juicer' road.  I've ordered one so will do the approach roads as soon as it arrives.  Meanwhile, the power BUS & accessories BUS has been installed & I've been improving my soldering.

What have I learnt?  The importance of flux!  I always used 'multicore' solder & always had problems getting the solder to flow.  I bought some flux & can't believe the difference it makes.  Probably b. obvious to most of you guys, but my learning curve is ever steeper!

Easewood baseboards were cleared & new legs fitted to raise the level, as the branch will now climb & cross the mainline & give me a run of about 6m from Ottersford to Easewood.



Everything seems to take so long!  Most of this week has been working on my old Mainline Dean Goods. I say old because I bought it new goodness knows when & it's been in the box since.  It's one of those horrible tender drives, but I've fitted a TCS chip & done some detailing & it doesn't look too bad, but is very noisy:


As a break from track & baseboards, I've been trying some scratch building.  The Station Master's house has appeared in Station Road:



I think in this case Sol's 3' rule should be adjusted to 30' & Pendon has nothing to worry about!  What have I learnt?  First, you can't change your knife blade too often - look at the raggedy edge round the windows!  2nd - if you're not 100% happy with something, rather scrap it then & start again rather than think it won't notice.  Sandra says I'm a sad muppet & the damn railway won't be finished in another 50 years - fact is, I know it's not right & really that's all that matters.  I'm building another cottage next door that's a bit of an improvement.  If anyone's interested, the drainpipe is fuse wire with brackets a la Allan Downes  (rolled strips of paper). The brass door knob is a pin head.  First attempt at back scen painting also!  Need to improve quickly as we have 18 meters of back scene to go!

Easewood engine shed has had a re-paint & acquired a coaling stage - still to be bedded in & detailed:




So that's about it for now.  Not much to show for 5 months!

What is the main thing I have learnt?  Don't do anything before looking in the Forum index!!  If i'd done that, I'd have made holes in the baseboard trusses to take wires, I wouldn't have raggedy edges on my windows, I'd have appreciated the importance of flux much sooner & so on.  Must say at this point that this Forum has been an absolute brick for me, as inspiration as well as support.  There is always someone willing to help & give advice, & as Billy No Mates here in S.A. it's good to be able to communicate with people with a common interest in our great & diverse hobby.  So my thanks to you all :doublethumb

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Great to have an update, and I'm sorry to hear of trauma you've gone through with your beloved dogs and being taken for a ride by the con artist.

Maybe it doesn't seem much to you but as you seem to work on your layout at about the same speed as I do on mine then I think it's good progress :lol:

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                         You've certainly had a rough ride of it lately mate.nice to see you back in modelling harness again.The layouts' coming on a treat.

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 A real shame about your pets and the low life who took your cash, but good to have you back here again
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Yes, we had a black Labrador bitch, Jess, who became just another member of the family and would not be left out of anything, and when she went with old age (and over easting) it was a great loss to us all. So I know how you feel.

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Well, as usual I've just put up about 6 pics & some text - kept pressing 'preview' to make sure everything OK, then after last insertion & text, pressed 'preview' & everything gone - just [img">] showing & nothing else. A real bummer & a waste of half an hour!

So I'll try again - who needs sleep anyway!

I've had a bit of a splurge last few days.  As Easewood had been cleared to fit the new legs & is now stabilised, I took the opportunity to replace & realign some sections of track & improve some connections (Easewood was originally DC but I converted to DCC so needed some extra feeds & breaks). Now everything is running reasonably smoothly.

Easewood has now acquired some seating, lamps & a much needed water crane:








The coal stage has been bedded in - now just needs some buckets & spades!




I bought some 'Chinese' trees on EBay - £15 for 50 inc postage from tiddly land.  They are a bit gaudy but with a bit of teasing with tweasers they don't look too bad a save a lot of time:






Old Jim the Porter is very proud of his Begonias - he's just a bit busy with churns at the moment for gardening:




I also bought a 'static stick' off EBay.  Had a problem with the mains adaptor - went pop as soon as I used it, but the guy gave great service & sourced a better one - cost him $25 just to ship the replacement adaptor!  Haven't had a chance to use it yet - I'm waiting for some 'static grass'.  The guys name is Scooter - would recommend as he really cares about his customers.




That's all for now folks.  Pip Pip.

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Already do that Sol!  Put them in the gallery first, even before I open new reply window.  As I say, I've always had this problem, which is why I keep going to 'preview' after each insertion.  Never had a complete deletion before after adding six or so pics, text & everything! I'm using XP Pro regularly updated with Firefox & PC just been upgraded to Pentium 2.7 Dual Core with 3 Gig RAM so I don't think the problem is my end.



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Try this, Mal:-     Just do a dummy post, it can be deleted afterwards.   Type in some text.

Go to the next line and upload one photo via "Upload new photo for insertion."

When the photo uploads, you should see it in your Gallery.  Click on the photo to insert it into the text.

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Hi Max - it doesn't happen every time - just a lot of the time!  I now go to 'preview' 1st because I was sick of sending only to find an empty post come up! At least if it's on 'preview' I can correct it first. So it happens when I press 'send' or 'preview' but not every time! Don't you just love intermittent problems? Mal



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Mal, I enjoyed those recent shots of your layout. Nice and fresh. Well done.



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Took the words out of my mouth. Easewood is looking great Mal and I do like the way you detailed the Dean Goods.......one the quintessential GWR locos

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Kaiser wrote: Hi Max - it doesn't happen every time - just a lot of the time!  I now go to 'preview' 1st because I was sick of sending only to find an empty post come up! At least if it's on 'preview' I can correct it first. So it happens when I press 'send' or 'preview' but not every time! Don't you just love intermittent problems? Mal


Yes  yes yes.........this will happen with this software if, having chosen 'Upload new photo for insertion' you don't actually upload something, perhaps you change your mind which picture to upload, or you can't remember if it's JPEG 1027 or JPEg 1028 you want.

You can go on gaily typing away, adding subsequent pictures and words, press 'Send' and all you have is a couple of words, a space and "img!.

So, golden rule, once you have selected 'Upload new photo for insertion' upload anything, you can always click on it and delete it in the final post if you have to.

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Progress at Ottersford continues at a pace that makes watching paint dry a high activity pursuit.  However, with a lot of help from Perry the first six main line points on the Southern approach to the station have been laid & wired using a 'Hex Frog Juicer'.  (If you don't know what this is, look at Perry's excellent 'Plank Road' thread.)  This has made the PL-13 switches I bought unnecessary for polarity switching, so I've decided to use them for LED route indicators.  On Perry's advice, this has meant the installation of another BUS wire so that the LEDs are independent of the point circuit using a Capacitor Discharge Unit.

This is the wiring diagram that Perry prepared for me - the fifth BUS wire runs from the CDU & eventually to all the PL-10s.



I'm sure whoever came up with the idea of DCC had shares in a wire making company - I can't believe how much wire I've used - & another 24  points to go!

This is work so far:







This is the HFJ in place - works a treat with super slow, smooth running through all the switches.



I'm trying to have a min. 5' radius to get a smooth flow with the large radius points, exception being the line at the top left in the second pic that runs down to the dock with a 4' radius.

At least all the baseboards are now complete with the finishing of the dropped section for the dock extension - just need to do the link between the old Easewood boards & the rest of the world.  Oh, & two control panels to build! Oh, and the backboards & front boards! Doh!

Not much to show for a couple of weeks.  What have I learnt?  You will ALWAYS bang your head when soldering under the baseboards.  The tool you need will ALWAYS be out of reach on the other side.  If a wire or a lead can get caught on any protuberance no matter how far away or tucked away, it ALWAYS will.  Trying to fit under baseboard point motors is a nightmare unless you are a two headed octopus.

That's all for now folks.  Thanks again to Perry for his patience & help.

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:hiMal, Great to see someone else in the endurance phase of building a railway.

Hex frog juicers and such and miles of wiring 2-wire DCC :roll:.

Its really coming together though Mal :thumbsand you posted some great photo,s of some of your scenic work as well in your railway thread. :oops: I am Catching up.

Good luck with the rest of the points and wireing and I do hope things are on the up and up for you and your good lady.

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Cheers Derek - I've been following your thread with interest as we seem to be at similar stages (the 'endurance stage' - very well put!) - there is also going to be an LNWR influence at Ottersford & I used to live next to the old L & Y Liverpool to Southport line.  The tracks were taken up in the late 50s & many an hour of my youth was spent walking the old track bed & exploring the disused & derelict signal boxes & station buildings.  The old L & Y terminal in Southport became a bus station until redevelopment in the 80s.

On the con-man front, the guy has been arrested & refused bail as it transpires he's done time for fraud before.  I've managed to recover my BMW that he was using, albeit with R50,000 worth of damage, but at least when it's repaired & sold I should be able to recover something.

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I love the little cameos and the whole thing is so realistic - a real credit to you and one that will inspire me to get a move on !! :cheers



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Kaiser wrote: Cheers Derek - I've been following your thread with interest as we seem to be at similar stages (the 'endurance stage' - very well put!) - there is also going to be an LNWR influence at Ottersford & I used to live next to the old L & Y Liverpool to Southport line.  The tracks were taken up in the late 50s & many an hour of my youth was spent walking the old track bed & exploring the disused & derelict signal boxes & station buildings.  The old L & Y terminal in Southport became a bus station until redevelopment in the 80s.


 

Hi Mal

I missed this somehow and when I read I got confused for a bit...............the L&Y Liverpool to Southport Line is still in existence as far as I know...........it is the electrified line that runs from Liverpool Exchange to Southport Chapel Street..........if challenged I could probably name all the intermediate stations.......I travelled that line enough times to and from school!

I am guessing the line you are referring to is the old Cheshire Lines Committee (really LNER) that ran from Liverpool Central and wound its way across Formby Moss to Southport Lord Street........it even had a stop in Birkdale right by the sand dunes for the old Palace Hotel

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I visited the old Cheshire Lines near Halsall a couple of years back and nature has completely reclaimed the ground level stuff which remained.
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:hiMal, Congrats on your railway being chosen for the YMR Photo spot.

Hows the track wireing going, maybe use your motor bike crash hat save a few bruises :lol:.

I chickened out on all those electro-frogs and converted most to insulated jobs, I don,t plan on running many 0-4-0 industrial loco,s, although I will have to be careful with the 2-4-2 T types.

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Not much been happening as I've run out of track underlay, wire & er - oh yes, money![img]">

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2nd try for this post!  Have to remember what I said now.

In the meantime, John you're quite right it was the old Cheshire Lines that I used to amble along - I remember seeing the signs now! The old L & Y (electrified) is still in existence - my Great Aunt used to take me trips to Southport from Waterloo on that line.  However, it was Ainsdale station that was on the beach, not Birkdale!  Birkdale station is still open!  I used to live in Ainsdale not far from the old Palace Hotel, which in the 70's had become the night club Toad Hall.

Now, where was I?  Oh yes, I got caught out with my track plan because the original plan (see page 1) was for 'N' gauge which meant I needed 4' for the dock line & exit roads at the North end of Ottersford.  As this section is against a wall, 4' would be too wide, so I may have to reduce the radius of the exit tracks & there will be a bit less sea! I've also decided to model the river & surrounding landscape before putting in bridges & track.







Sandra's medication comes every two weeks & has to be kept refrigerated, so comes packed in a box insulated with a high density foam.  It's light, cuts very easily & doesn't make any mess like polystyrene.  Unfortunately, I've only just found this out after 3 years so lots has been thrown away!

I've also had a re-think about the control panel.  The main panel is to be 'inside' the circuit, & as I've opted for 3-link couplings & the goods yard  is on the opposite side, any shunting would have involved 'ducking under' all the time.  So I've decided to have a secondary control panel, covering the goods reception loop & the yard, situated opposite the main panel, so allowing completely independent operation of the yard.

Well, that's all for now.  Thanks for everybody's kind comments - it really does help keep you motivated during the 'endurance stage'!





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:hiMal Good to see your Post and photo,s, All those high level scenic runs should be great to view :thumbs.

3-links Ahh your eyesite must be good, and a steady hand helps, Have you a lift up section for getting out of the operator well?

Waiting for track and stuff, Part of the joys of the mail order railway brigade.

I have another 20 yards either in the suppliers emporium or the post somewhere.

Cash is another topic :lol: I did have some grand spending plans this week :oops: trouble is the phone and heating bills arrived.

They have no consideration!

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In the meantime, John you're quite right it was the old Cheshire Lines that I used to amble along - I remember seeing the signs now! The old L & Y (electrified) is still in existence - my Great Aunt used to take me trips to Southport from Waterloo on that line.  However, it was Ainsdale station that was on the beach, not Birkdale!  Birkdale station is still open!  I used to live in Ainsdale not far from the old Palace Hotel, which in the 70's had become the night club Toad Hall.


 

There were actually two Ainsdale Stations (Well 3 if you include Woodvale).......there was and still is Ainsdale on the Electrified Line. Ainsdale Beach used to be on the CLC........it was the station before Birkdale Palace

What really got the old nostalgia going was your mention of Toad Hall..........spent many happy saturday nights there in the early 70s...............isnt life bizarre a guy in Vancouver reminiscing with a guy in South Africa about an obscure night club in Lancashire in 1970......on a railway forum...............go figure!!:roll::roll:

Back to your thread:oops:.......good solid progress Mal until like me you ran out of track.....probably lots of other stuff to do though:cheers 

 

 



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Aren't all nightclubs in Lancashire obscure ?:lol: ..........................:pedal

Petermac - you're obviously a child of the 60s & still popping the odd sugar cube!  Obscured By Clouds maybe!  And the picture would only have been of small change so you couldn't print it anyway. :mutley


John - I stand corrected again.  I remember the old Palace Hotel in Birkdale - I was thinking of the Station Hotel Ainsdale. A friend of mine got a job on a local newspaper (Ormskirk Advertiser I think) around the time they were demolishing the Palace Hotel.  Story was the Hotel had been built back to front & the owner or architect had committed suicide & the Hotel was reputed to be haunted by their ghost - lifts going up & down with the power off, that sort of thing.  The Hotel had been emptied prior to demolition & he was commissioned to spend the night there & write a story for his paper.  He lasted till about 2am & said it was the scariest thing (still, we were only in our 20s!) with doors slamming, creaking & indeed the lift did go up & down even though all power was off!  Maybe journalistic licence as if nothing had happened he wouldn't have a story!

Bizarre indeed that this communication is going on - makes you realise how the Earth has shrunk.  I've just had an email from a guy I used to be at Grammar School with & haven't seen since.  He moved to Durban in 1976!




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Done a little bit more work on Station Road, Easewood.



Compare this with pic on page 2 - not much to show for a few months!



Nanny hurries down Station Road with her charge, no doubt frightened by the large Rose blooms!  The cottage is my 2nd attempt at scratch building - card & plasticard. The wall surface is fine surface Polyfilla stippled on with a brush.  Plant in the window is the tip of a chicken feather, of which I now have plenty, dipped in green paint then teased out with a pin.  The bush on the right has been compared to a Hydrangea.  Some one said "That bush on the right looks nothing like a Hydrangea."  Ah well.




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That looks great Mal..............where did you get the nanny on the bike ........I have never seen anything quite like that before........in the nicest possible sense:lol:

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Unfortunately, not a lot to report as 2 puppy St Bernards & various other things have conspired to keep me away from the layout.

Gremble & Honey are coming on fine - this is them after the first rain fall of the summer:



I still can't believe how long everything takes.  I've got in excess of 100 kits accumulated over the years & at the current rate of progress I hope I keep going long enough to get my telegram from the Queen (or King as it may be by then).  I just completed a 40' Siphon from a K's kit (£2.99 on the packet!) This is it being loaded with the morning milk at Easewood:



Didn't have an 'F' on my transfer sheet but the running number is authentic!

This is a train spotters view from the road as Dean Goods shunts the Siphon to join the 5.45 to Ottersford:




I also spent quite some time putting together a Scalescene's Coal Office for Easewood, but Gremble can now reach the bench and his opinion of my work was unequivocal:



I've also been building a horse drawn parcel van but it's not quite complete - still, it's only been 3 weeks work so far!

Main line track laying has stalled at the Northern end of Ottersford as the river section needs to be completed before the two bridge sections can be installed - I thought this would be easier than try to add the river under the track!  I using the proven method of shaped formaldehyde foam covered in plaster soaked cloth:



I've also found a home for the weigh bridge at Easewood. I eventually went with Martin's suggestion & did a bit of re-landscaping.  also took the opportunity to re-work the fencing:



If you compare this pic with the one earlier in the thread I think it's a bit of an improvement.



This shows that I only lost a few inches from the siding & the office looks OK.  I set it a small angle for an easier 'flow' through the station gate:



So that's about it.  Not much for three months or so!  Next push is to get the river landscaping finished, the main line completed & get Easewood connected at last to the outside world!

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Great Photos Mal................including the dogs.........they are clearly enjoying life.

Thats a lovely model of the Siphon........I havent seen one like that before.

I hope you have more luck than I with the Dean Goods............I hate tender drive with a passion and despite installing a Lenz Gold Chip and stay alive (cost far more than the loco) its running is still not really acceptable.

I am so glad you adjusted the layout to accommodate the Weigh Bridge............it looks perfect there :thumbs......so much better than the various compromises............

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Hi John - Gremble was named by the breeder's daughter - the name comes from a character in a virtual playground called '"Pet Pet Park".  Seems kids don't go to the park anymore - they have a "virtual" one on their computer!  Can't say it would have been my first choice (Gremble was 5 months already when we got him) but at least when I call his name in a real park he's the only dog that comes!

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John, the Dean is a lovely model and I completely agree with you on tender drive.  Many years ago I installed Perserverance chassis kits (no longer available but I think Comet do them) under my Dean Goods loco and tender and the running was excellent (you can't get much weight in but it looked smart pulling a rake of 5 Ratio 4 wheelers).  Being able to see daylight under the tender frames was marvelous.  Sadly I sold the model but I still have fond memories.

I am currently refurbishing my Airfix 4F.  It has a Kemilway chassis.  I just got a sound decoder for it.


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Hi Mal, thanks to Bob's pictures at the side of the forum, I just took a wander through your layout thread and read the trials and tribulations that have surrounded the development of Ottersford Junction. I love this layout and the attention to detail, which are a result of your superb modelling skills. I sense that like me you prefer the scenic side of layout building to tracklaying and ballasting, but I do look forward to seeing more of the other areas of the layout as it develops.



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Thanks for the kind comments Novice & you are quite right about track laying & ballasting!  There have been no developments since my last post worth reporting.  I did have a thought one day as I was making yet another pot of coffee - 2 things I have in abundance - coffee grounds & sunshine - & I thought of combining the two!  Our coffee is course ground for a plunger & is very similar in size to '00' ballast so we set to & dried our used grounds.  It only took a couple of days to get a fair amount so I tried it out on a length of track - ignoring the caution of using a length of 'test' track I did the one length of double track already laid & wired (big mistake)!  It looked fine (& smelt nice) & I used the usual diluted PVA from a spray bottle to fix.  Left it overnight & it was just as loose as ever.  Gave another soaking (in fact 3 or 4, each time with more glue) with the same results.  I think the coffee grounds are too absorbent & just keep soaking up the solution.  So hope this saves any one else from wasting time!  Vacced it all up & called it a day!  Hope to be able to post some positive news soon, but in the meantime compliments of the season to all on YMR & I hope 2012 will be a better year for us all.

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I love your layout Mal I am doing somthing similer on my layout Oakley. I really like your engine shed and coal stage. Did you build them yourself? :doublethumb:Happy

 

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Hi Connor - thanks for your interest.  The engine shed is a Wills kit & the coal stage a Ratio.  I find the kits of such good quality that if you take a bit of care when assembling, unless you are up to Doug or Stubby's standard of scratch building, they take some beating.

I always seem to be posting apologies for the lack of progress at Ottersford, but fate continues to conspire against me.  Followers of the thread may remember that I referred to a run-in I had with a con man last year.  Well, I managed to retrieve my BMW with some body damage to rectify but still driveable.  I gave it to a guy to repair, & on his way to the auto electricians (damn Xenon headlights) he put the car in a ditch, destroyed the off-side suspension (even broke the alloy wheel in half) & damaged the new front wing just fitted!  By November, 12 months after first buying the thing & having spent R60,000 on repairs (about £5,000) it was ready for sale & looked like this:

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I gave it to a guy with a car lot to sell for me, & although I knew I wouldn't get back what it had cost me I did expect by now to have had the financial situation eased a little.  However, got a call just after Christmas to go see the guy (expected him to say [/img]


Story is he was out on a 'test drive' & a guy jumped the lights!  Not much of an excuse as green here means go like hell, amber means go & red means go on, another 2 or 3 can make it.

So the nightmare continues.  Like walking across a muddy field & you think "Yes, I can make this!" but the mud just gets wetter & deeper, & then your wellies come off.

On the bright side, Gremble & Honey continue to grow & have both just graduated puppy training class.  Here they are waiting to open their presents on Christmas day:



We are also now having to seriously consider leaving SA.  Sandra's medication & our medical aid here is now costing £500 a month.  If we returned to within the EEC, that would be covered, & in addition Sandra would be eligible for a number of benefits.  We've argued that we've saved the NHS thousands by Sandra having major corrective surgery done here, but that kind of logic doesn't compete with 'rules is rules'!  Also, although we will be able to claim our pensions here, they will be 'frozen' & not eligible for any increases.

Ottersford was never designed to be portable & it's unlikely that we would be able to afford any where that would give me as much space as I have here, so there's not much incentive just now to put more effort into the project.

Sorry this is all un-railway related & off topic but there it is! Very frustrating!

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That's a horrendous tale of woe Mal.

Can you get the car re-repaired under the car lot insurance ?  It would be incredible if he didn't have any.

Re the potential move to the northern hemisphere, we also have friends who don't get any increase in their pension (state) levels because they live " outside" the designated areas.  You pay it for years then they try to get out of their responsibilities when it comes to paying it back - but don't get me started on that kind of thing ..............:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

I don't know how long you've lived in S.A. - if it's a long time, you may have to move back to UK to get the benefits rather than just the EU but I'm sure you've been into that in depth.

From my own experience, whilst there's a lot wrong with Europe, it does have advantages - for "Brits" at least - in that most things are reciprocal with UK.  Liz recently had a new knee here in France and, whilst we had to lay out some of the costs, particularly post operative care, the insurance and NHS will ultimately pick up the tab.  Certainly the several thousand euro hospital bill - the op itself, consultant and anaesthetist fees landed us with a bill of only 33 euros before we could leave the hospital !!!!   I'd expected 3 or 4 thousand.

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Incredible but true Peter!  Car insurance is not mandatory here (not even 3rd party).  There is the RAF (Road Accident Fund) that is paid for by a subsidy on fuel but it takes years for claims to be settled.  The other driver involved in the incident was insured & apparently there were witnesses so we hope that we'll be paid out if blame can be ascribed, but I'm not holding my breath!

Hope Liz gets on fine with the knee - Sandra had to have a new elbow a couple of years ago but it's been fine since.  Interesting what you said about costs - Sandra's elbow was R80,000 (about £7,000) but even with the medical aid our co-payment was R5,000.

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Thanks for all the kind thoughts guys, but as Peter says things could be worse.  I remind myself that it's only a car & there are folks with far more serious problems but jeepers I could do without the aggro.  Ultimately, I'm just annoyed with myself for allowing myself to get into this situation.  I'm astounded I was so taken in but fate just wants to keep reminding me!

Max - I don't think Oz would want a couple of old reprobates like us - oh, wait a minute, that's how you started :roll:

Peter - Sandra can still raise a glass as long as it doesn't exceed 5 Kgs & we have Winters here too - last year I had to wear a jumper on at least 3 days!

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The glacial progress at Ottersford continues, so as usual excuses & whinges.  Readers of this thread will know our dogs play a large part in our lives & that we have had some really bad luck with them.  I have to report that atrocious luck continues as we lost our lovely Honey (the smaller of the two in the picture [subject of jigsaw of the week a few weeks ago]) just a month before her 1st birthday.  She just literally dropped dead - right as rain one minute, dead on the floor the next.  The vet tells us it's not uncommon with the large breeds with a fast rate of growth (she was already 40 Kgs at 11 months) that the walls of the heart get very thin & just 'burst'.  It was a huge shock & to be honest I just lost it & didn't do much of anything for a few months.

Anyway, as they say, look on the bright side, things could be worse.  So I tried to look on the bright side, & sure enough things did get worse as in November my cell number was stolen, my bank account hacked & R300, 000 (about £25, 000) stolen.  The bank said sorry for you not our problem, & as the money was taken from our Bond account, they're now charging me interest on the stolen amount!  The case is now with the police, the Banking Ombudsman & the cell company fraud department, & I wait to hear.

Then I came off my bike & jaspered my right knee.  The BMW saga continues as I have had to sue the dealer who was selling the car.

The good news is that as I can't afford petrol for the car & have to stay in I made the effort to get something done on Ottersford so I'll update with a railway related post soon!

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Mal, that's a terrible tale of continuing woes.  I'm so sorry.

We once lost a Golden Retriever in similar circumstances.  It's such a shock although, after a time, there is some comfort in knowing that, until a split second before they die, they are loved, happy and totally unaware of what's about to happen.  No pain, no suffering, no long illness, and probably above all, we don't have to make that awful decision to have them put down.  It's always those who are left who do the grieving.

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Hi Mal, My condolences on your loss.
I sure hope things are getting better for you these days.
Well I have returned to the long saga of trying to get a railway together if I can avoid the distractions of the outside world there maybe hope.
I do hope you can get writing again your lovely layout even in the endurance phase is a pleasure to follow.

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Well it's about time & I promise nothing negative in this update!  Firstly, thanks to everyone for their kind thoughts & support during the dark days of the last two years. I look in on the forum most days & must say it is a continuing source of inspiration - Phil C, Ben Alder, Bradford Wheregate (those mills!), Upton to Dunton, Downsway South et al all fabulous examples of what can be achieved. It's also great to see Allan Downes as a member having been in awe of his modelling over the last few decades!

On the dog side, I don't believe in having one dog so we went to the rescue centre & found Dolly. No pedigrees or fancy breeders but there was something in her eyes even at 7 weeks old.






She has turned into the most intelligent, fastest learning dog I have known with boundless energy & the speed of a Whippet.  She never rests & needs to be constantly occupied which isn't easy even when we're home most of the time.  Current but not exclusive list of destruction is 4 pairs sandals, 1 pr trousers, 3 towels, Kodak digital camera, 2 water feature pumps (taken while plugged in & running!), 2 Persian rugs, mats out of my Audi, garden sprinkler, 2 garden hoses, static grass applicator, 2 books, 4 door stops, pool skimmer & various garden plants.


You will see in the background the chewed skirting boards missing from the above list! She is one year old next month - let's hope she sees it!

After 4 months of fighting the bank 'recovered' my stolen money. I'm still trying to recover the over R10, 000 interest they charged me in the meantime but still a huge relief.

I'm going to post this now to see if it goes through OK then I'll post more relevant railway matters.

 



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That,s a great new Dog and sure looks a happy animal.
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Well that seems to have gone OK.  A few months ago I decided to heed my Mother's trauma advice ("Stop feeling sorry for yourself & get on with it - you don't know how lucky you are.") This is probably the same trauma advice offered to my Grandfather after he was shot to ribbons at the Somme but more apposite in my case.

To cheer myself up I ordered one of the new Hornby 'County' class, a Bachman 'City' & a Dapol track cleaner.  I also managed to acquire one of the limited edition Hornby LSWR 'T9's.  I then decided to get the main line circuit finished & get something running. I was glad I'd tiled the railway room as after nearly 12 months of inactivity a day with the vacuum & a mop got it back into shape. The first obstacle was where the main line leaves Ottersford & crosses the river.  The bridge had to be on a curve & accomodate a road, the river & the line to the docks.  The original plan (see 1st post) was for 'N' gauge & I couldn't allow the same width in '00'.  I decided to shorten the branch platform & goods reception & bring the point forward - this meant I could have one single & one double width bridge.  I had to pull up most of the scenic groundwork already done (it doesn't work fitting a model railway into the scenery!).

I used the 'Scalescenes' viaduct as this seemed to give the most flexibility. I made each arch individually & as previously noted on the Forum, cutting out the arches is the worst part.  I've had 16 to do & it's a real pita. Change blades regularly & take your time.  I found when fitting the arch lining, it was far easier & more efficient to use a bead from a hot glue gun to hold everything in place rather than pieces of tape as suggested in the instructions.  It also makes the structure much stronger. I cut a base out of 3mm ply & attached the arches directly to it, again using a hot glue gun.  I had to build plinths for crossing the river. An inspirational picture is on page 39 of 'The Railway Photographs of P.W. Pilcher' available from the LNWR Society for only a tenner. This shows a stone viaduct crossing the Severn at Shrewsbury.



 

This shows the main line snaking off around the headland - the branch to Easwood is on the left.  I've nearly finished the second viaduct that will carry the branch.  Completion of the viaduct let me lay the rest of the circuit - I now have 38 metres of main line (with 80 droppers soldered underneath!) & 4 hex frog juicers. This is why I thought the Dapol track cleaner would be a good idea. However, once I had chipped it & tried to use it, the glaringly obvious fault became apparent - the track cleaner only works when the track is clean! I had to resort to the old abrasive block before it would work.  I think track maintainer would be a better description although I found the 'vacuum' effect negligible. Can't say it's worth £50.

The new 'County' however was very impressive.  No where near the detail of the Bachmann (but half the price) but once chipped ran very smoothly & pulls 5 coaches with ease & I'm sure could manage more.






Loco & coaches all straight out the box (some of the coaches have been in them since the 70's!).


Unfortunately, after a few circuits a problem arose, whereby a loco will respond when selected but will start to move at it's own pace & then won't respond to any commands, not even 'STOP'. The only way to stop it is to unplug the power. It will stop for no apparent reason & then start up again but not responding to any commands.  I'm using the 'Dynamis' system but Bachmann have been less than helpful. They suggested it may be the hex frog juicers but I disconnected them & it made no difference. I did post a query on the Forum but for the first time didn't get any replies so I suppose not a problem anyone else has had.

I found a guy in Johannesburg who is modelling UK & he was selling some stuff. I bought some unmade kits (I now have over 120 & Sandra went beresk as she says at the current rate of progress I won't live long enough) but also got a rake of 4 & 6 wheel coaches. They are brass built with fully detailed & compensated chassis, detailed interiors & screw link couplings fitted. I thought they would make a great branch set for Easwood & got them for the equivalent of £6 each! As I'm paying £5 a pair for screw link couplings (+postage) I thought they were a bargain.



They are in war time all-chocolate livery & could do with a bit of touching up (couldn't we all) but make an unusual & interesting train. 



One kit I have finished - old Ebedia waits at Easwood to take out the morning parcel delivery.







Still need to bed in & detail that station building!



That's all for now!  Pip pip.

 

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Thanks for the update Mal, That's looking like some great progress on Ottersford Junction.
Track dropper,s what a pain I am busy on that score myself among other things.
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Well Hi to all on the Forum.  I find it hard to believe it's so long since my last post - it's certainly true that time speeds up as you get older.  I won't bore everyone with reasons for the delay - suffice to say I had an emotional battering that meant I did very little of anything for a while.  I do, however, look in on the Forum every day & it continues to be a source of inspiration & support.

Another thing that stalled me was the thought of completing the control panel & wiring 38 or so point motors.  Relief came in attending a local show where I met a guy who is an electrical engineer & who actually enjoys that kind of thing (!).  After my Dynamis problems (see previous posts) I had invested in an Ecos ESU system that had immediately proved that my track laying & wiring had not been at fault as everything worked fine once it was plugged in.  Anyway, Colin (for so he is called) is currently building me a control panel with automatic switching of crossovers, route indicators & all kinds of wizardry & he is going to wire all the point motors as well!

I also met a guy who likes fitting decoders to locos (it really does take all sorts!) so he is busy fitting ESU Loksound to all my locos.  The trouble with Loksound is that once you've had one loco done it's so good that not having sound isn't an option & it's very expensive.

Anyway, the imminent arrival of the control panel gave me a boost to finish tracklaying so the main station is complete, the goods yard just about with only the loco depot to finish.  I've ordered a Metalsmith's GWR turntable & I've re-designed the area a little so as to incorporate the raised coaling stage (such as at Didcot) of which the GWR was so fond.





I've also just about finished the 2 viaducts - I've left off the parapet walls for now as they kept getting knocked off.



Meanwhile, Easwood has at last got it's cattle dock.







A foreigner at Easwood - a Saturday market through special sees a LSWR train pull into the station.



I see from earlier in the thread I started to build the coach about 4 years ago - so I should have a rake by about 2030!

So once the track is all wired & working OK I can start in earnest on scenery & that if I'm honest is what I really enjoy.  But at least now I can have trains chuff chuffing around while I'm working & at least I'm starting to feel I'm getting some where, even though painfully slowly.

So thanks again for all on the Forum for keeping me in touch with the hobby through bad times.  Hope it won't be so long before the next post!

Bye for now.

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Lovely work...glad to see the cattle dock has got a poo collector in the track work :thumbs, often forgotten.

I did some arches for a chum, as you say a PITA. The Olfa cutter kept making a mess though using double sided sticky tape to hold the card/paper still and cutting on hardboard to stop the point wearing a big hole certainly helped. I think I will try cutting out an aluminium cutting guide next time. When I see some of the big viaducts on here I take my hat off to the builders, and indeed to you, Sir!

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Hi Mal, Thanks for your PM and photo's. Nice of you.
Great to see you back at your railway and making great progress which is more than I have achieved over the last while. Still I am back and ordering track parts and booked a couple of new loco's for when they get released. All the best ,Derek.

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well ,Kaiser and Shunter 1 back on,two for the price of one great,good to see you both are ok happy modelling,,
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Hi Mal,
I'm relatively new here so only just found your thread. I've read through the whole thing and am absolutely in love with "Easwood", I think it was an early photo that kept me interested, although I must say the whole layout is starting to really look good now. I do hope your luck has improved!
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Thanks for your kind comments John.  Progress is as usual painfully slow but I hope to have the control panel wired & installed next month.  I've been busy installing all the point motors - a lot of work but nothing worth photographing!  I've taken delivery of the Metalsmith GWR turntable for Ottersford & need to get started on that & then that's all the trackwork complete.  My Great Aunt lived to be 97 so if it runs in the family there's a chance Ottersford might get somewhere near finished!  All the best. Mal



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You're welcome Mal!
Slow progress is better than no progress, that's what I keep telling myself anyway.
I shall certainly look forward to seeing how the TT comes along, they are something of a 'thing' for me!
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Well Mal' although the only sort of luck you have seems to be bad, I reckon you've done exceptionally well. The layout looks really good... much better than mine; I must get the stuff to build a platform because it's at the back of the layout, so no point building things just so I can destroy them while doing the station. Just like your viaduct parapets. ;-) 



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Hi Pete good to here from you.  Next Tuesday (9th) is big day as the control panel for Ottersford is to be installed & wired.  Once that's all working OK I can make a serious start on the scenery. Have you looked at Scalescenes for your platforms?  I'm using them because you can tailor them to fit your particular location.  Godd luck anyway.  Mal



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Good luck for the 9th, hope it all goes well first time. I don't use scalescenes because the humidity and silver fish get to the paper finish. On my last attempt which I was pleased with, I used 12mm ply for the platform base and cut strips of balsa which I scored with a knife for the edging stones and then black tile grout for the asphalt surface. I sanded it lightly which turned it a nice asphalt colour.

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Hi Pete.  I used plywood for the 'Easewood' platform but wimped out of scribing paving stones & used fine grade sandpaper for the surface.  Did edge it with stones though!  Would like to see a pic of your platform.  Mal



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That particular one is long gone, but I'm going to start another one soon. Meanwhile I'll try and find some pic's of it.



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For an easy platform solution, cork underlay works great, when painted grey it gives an excellent tarmac surface which I remember on the platforms in my area.

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Well some progress at last. Day spent yesterday on the control panel, for which I can accept no credit. It's all down to electrical engineer & railway enthusiast Colin



He's got a file full of track & wiring diagrams & made all the circuit boards himself.



I'm really impressed with the hours of work he must have put in, and this is the result:



So now there is just 25 points with 5 wires each to be connected!!!!!



I seem to remember reading some promotional literature that said "DCC - run your railway with just two wires".

So he's here tomorrow again for another jolly day of wiring!

Then it's the turntable to be sorted & that will be electrics done - oh, apart from signalling, lighting etc. :shock::shock::shock:

Can't imagine how long it would have taken me to do all that - I'd got as far as buying some black Dymo tape to do the track plan!!

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