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 Posted: Thu Feb 18th, 2010 10:30 pm
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This is the foundation laid for the cattle dock. a sheet of setts (Slaters??) that I've had in my stock for years. Edging is Scalescenes slabs. The concrete sections around the rail are part of the original ratio kit.



All painting of the Dock is done with Games Workshops water based acrylics. I really like these paints and use them wherever possible. They cover well and it's easy to clean brushes. The setts were first painted blue and it was then given washes of Kommando Khaki and Snakebite Leather (great names aren't they :lol:). Both washes were also applied to the concrete areas around the track and spread over the edge slabs with a fat finger. The photo makes it look a bit blotchy but it looks better in the flesh, honest.





I ditched the wire provided in the Ratio kit as it is too thin and used some wire bought in hobby world that is used for floral craft. It comes with a green coating which takes paint better than bare metal and is exactly the right size to go through the holes in the Ratio posts. The Dock was split into sections and wire threaded through the correct number of posts for that section. Each post was then fixed in turn at the correct spacing by running a piece of wire dipped in superglue along the post edge and capillary action does the rest. Painting was again using GW paints. Posts and gates were all painted skull white. Posts were then given a thin coat of Kommando Khaki. Gates were given a dry brush of codex grey let down with a bit of skull white. The rails and hinges were then painted a mix of scorched earth and snakebite leather to give a base coat of rust. The rails were then given a dry brush of skull white slightly tinged / dirtied with snakebite leather to give the impression that the rails were originally painted white but rust has well and truly taken over.



A few views of the dock. Railings are not fixed permanently yet, hence why they look a little crooked ;-)










Another structure for Much Murkle finds it's place on the layout. Progress slowly but surely ;-)







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 Posted: Thu Feb 18th, 2010 10:37 pm
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I was going to query the use of thicker wire but I see it matches the gates - now for a few cow pats, etc.

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Should blend in well with its surroundings - good job.



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 Posted: Fri Feb 19th, 2010 09:14 pm
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Lovely job,Nick.Those rusty gate hinges really sell it! I think it looks very convincing empty,but I'd be tempted to stick a few cows in,provided you can source some that look as convincing as your cattle dock.Otherwise,as Sol says....a few cowpats showing previous occupancy??

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Quality rust weathering there, what are your plans for the drains at the end of the track gullies?


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I love the way the grass bank meets the platform:thumbs



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Thanks all. I'm a long way off from deciding whether to put 'beasts' as my Grandfather would have called them, in the pens. If I do they will have to be Herefords to be in keeping with the location ;-)

There will definitely be some cowpats eventually as the original ratio kit included a fair number of them. Thank goodness we don't strive for authentic smells :mutley

The Ratio kit also includes the drain covers and these will be installed soon. I also need to do something about filling the gaps at the ends either side of the track and the joint between the sections.



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I too love the rust Nick - it looks real. :thumbs:thumbs

Also, the setts look as if the occupants have just been dispatched and the pens are awaiting a pressure washer - again, very realistic.

A great looking build - my only slight concern would be that the posts look a tad hefty - have you any idea what the size would be if they were scaled up to 12" :1ft  - but the rusty bars look first class. :roll::roll:



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I too love the rust Nick - it looks real. :thumbs:thumbs

Also, the setts look as if the occupants have just been dispatched and the pens are awaiting a pressure washer - again, very realistic.

A great looking build - my only slight concern would be that the posts look a tad hefty - have you any idea what the size would be if they were scaled up to 12" :1ft  - but the rusty bars look first class. :roll::roll:


Peter, I seriously doubt that a 1930's cattle pen cleaner would have access to such luxuries as a pressure washer :shock: Bucket and brush would probably be the order of the day :lol:

The posts scale out at just over 6" square when painted. They are straight out of the Ratio kit and as they have 1mm pre-drilled holes for the bars there is not a lot of scope for reducing them down in size.

In Steve William's book Great Western Branch Line modelling there are drawings and dimensions of a GWR standard cattle pen which gives the dimensions of the posts at 6" x 6" and the gate posts at 7" x 7" so I think they are about right. I may have got the post centres slightly closer together than normal to enable me to fit the pens into the site I have and this may have some effect on their looks.

Don't forget that cattle are very heavy and powerful animals, when they want to be therefore any enclosure needs to be quite hefty.



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I didn't need to read beyond your scaled up 6 x 6 Nick - that's about what I thought they ought to be then I saw you'd cross referenced them with a book so we're all right. :thumbs:thumbs

Maybe it is that they're just a bit closer than normal. :roll::roll:

I did my pre-college training on a dairy farm in Yorkshire so I know how stong those beasts can be - especially when they stand on our foot when you're trying to milk the blighters !!!!  I learnt lots on new words in my 20 odd years of farming. :roll::roll::roll:



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Petermac wrote:  I learnt lots on new words in my 20 odd years of farming. :roll::roll::roll:

Then you'll have heard the words of wisdom a farmer once told me as I was admiring his dairy herd one cold wet day when a corner of a milking parlour was a much nicer place to be than on a police motorcycle...........

'Yup. It all comes down to the 3 'T's...'

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'The three 'T's, toes, tits and teeth, if those three are in good nick, the bit in the middle looks after itself!'


I was already married by then, but though it a good maxim for wife-hunting, too........

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That sounds about right Doug - although I was around even before milking parlours were the order of the day !!  We had a cowshed and fold yard.  Parlours were just coming in when I was learning what to do with udders !!!!



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dooferdog wrote: .............
'The three 'T's, toes, tits and teeth, if those three are in good nick, the bit in the middle looks after itself!'


I was already married by then, but though it a good maxim for wife-hunting, too........

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Doug, did you go home & check on the 3 'T's" then :question 

 

Now how did we stray from a cattle dock thread :question

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Sol - Doug, did you go home & check on the 3 'T's" then ?

:It's a no no  Don't go there................suffice to sy the 7shillings and 6pence I invested in a marriage licence is the only investment I've ever made that kept up with inflation..............:shock:

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Nice job Nick. I was impressed also with the scalescene slabs ,but could not locate those on the scalescenes products . Could you tell me where they are please. :hmm



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Nice job Nick. I was impressed also with the scalescene slabs ,but could not locate those on the scalescenes products . Could you tell me where they are please. :hmm

Hi Reg

The ones I used are out of the platform kit. I think they match the slabs in their 'pavement' scratchbuild sheets but you also get the edge slabs with or without a painted white line on them.



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Thanks Nick i'l have a look .:cool:



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