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 Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 03:36 pm
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I have started to develop the backscenes to go behind Middleton station on my layout. I require some low relief buildings in front of the backboards to provide some depth. I am using some Metcalfe buildings, however, I want to depict a Victorian style house, as a home for the local factory owner. I searched on one of the property selling websites to find a suitable prototype to model. I came up with this:




It is a four bedroom house built in 1862 and was originally a mill owners house. There are quite a few pictures accompanying the main photo on the site showing detail which will help. I intend to build the front only, as shown in the picture and part of the sides of the building. I will use some commercial doors and windows from Wills, but the main structure and roof and detail will be scratch built.

The first task is to work out the size and draw up some plans. More to follow.........

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 Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 03:56 pm
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A great project ahead, Novice. That's a good looking house, made even more attractive (and possibly easier to model :? ) by its near-perfect symmetry. I'll be following this with great interest.

(Another scratchbuilder :shock: I'd better get going on my plans and ideas :lol: )



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Here we go; another scratchbuilder. Hurray! :D That's what I like to see! :D :D

I'm really looking forward to this project. It will be interesting to see how another scratchbuilder tackles things. With any degree of luck I'll be able to pick up a few pointers. :D

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Perry wrote:Here we go; another scratchbuilder. Hurray! :D That's what I like to see! :D :D

I'm really looking forward to this project. It will be interesting to see how another scratchbuilder tackles things. With any degree of luck I'll be able to pick up a few pointers. :D

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I very much doubt that you will learn much from my efforts, but I will certainly be seeking advice from you. :)

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O dear, now I'll have to get on with my layout and rejoin the ranks of scratchbuilders :!: All you new guys are starting to show me up :!: :!:
Seriously though Novice, well done for deciding to have a go, I'm looking foward to your thread.

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Can not wait for this thread to start, better my lodger leaves soon :twisted: so i can get on with mine. Looking forward to another project built from scratch.
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A very attractive subject! Good on you, Novice.

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The first thing I have noticed is that I have called this project a Low Relief Georgian House, when it is in fact Victorian :oops: A good start!

Well I have worked out the size and shape of the building. I did this by looking at the floor plan measurements, counting bricks on the photograph and by measuring the window frames that I intend to use. So the basic outline of the building has been cut out and this works out at around 155mm wide x 73mm high The gable ends will be some 23mm higher making the total height of the building 96mm at the apex of the roof.

Again by counting bricks I have been able to position the 5 windows and the door openings. There are no windows on the end walls, these are plain brick. Having marked all of these on the card I cut them out:




The first stage of this project is complete. The most complex part is going to be the door. This is arched, set back into the wall and has a further decorative brick arch around it, which appears to be flush with the main wall:





Need to get my thinking cap on to work out how I will achieve this!

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Two scratch builders on the go can we all handle this ? :lol: seriously though this is going to be a good one aswell.



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After a bit of head scratching I came up with a plan. I need to place the inner door arch into a recess. The only way this could be done is to cut it out, add a spacer and fix it back in place. So I cut the inner arch out.





It also needed a brick 'fan above the arch, so I lopped the top of the cut out arch, reversed it and scribed on the fan shaped bricks. I then glued the top back on.

Next I needed to deal with the larger archway that sits flush with the wall, above the door. I marked it in pencil and then cut it out. Big gamble here as the building is potentially ruined if this does not work :(





I added some plastic strip to act as a spacer for the recessed door. Reversed the larger arch and scribed some bricks in a fan shape. Glued this back in place and fixed in the recessed door. A bit of filler was needed to finish off. I also added some window ledges, made out of plastic strip:





So far so good. Next the end walls.

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Bob (K) - this is beginning to look and read like a Perry thread 8) Expect a big following :lol: I'm in the front row :!:



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Good going, Bob. Well explained too. It's going to look great.

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Looking good, Bob (K)!

If you are making an arch to go completely behind another opening, there is no need to curve both inner and outer edges. The one you can't see can be any old shape you like! :D

You're a brave man setting the over-door arch flush into the wall! :roll: :lol: It's something I'm seldom comfortable with. :oops:

I see that you have used English Bond embossed brickwork. Is this how the prototype is built? I can't tell on the photographs (due to having rubbish eyesight! :lol: )

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Nice one Bob(K), looks like you've been doing this for years :!:

Perhaps some of our more reticent members will believe Perry and I now :!:
It's easy for us to bang on about how anyone can scratchbuild, as long as they take the time and trouble to plan the job, now a guy (that calls himsef Novice) is proving the point :!:

Go for it Bob(K) we know you can do it, we are seeing it with our own eyes ... Fantastic :!: :!:

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Following this with interest, a good job so far and im with Tim on the front row, what time is the usherette coming with the icecream :D
Looking forward to following this thread, first Perry and now Bob, which do we follow first ?.
Great Bob, keep going.
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Perry wrote:Looking good, Bob (K)!


I see that you have used English Bond embossed brickwork. Is this how the prototype is built? I can't tell on the photographs (due to having rubbish eyesight! :lol: )

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I am not totally sure of the brick pattern. It is neither English bond or Flemish. The English is the closest I could find and as it is going to be set well back as part of the backscene I decided to use this. I would be interested to know. The picture of the doorway might help.

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from what i can see it looks very much like english bond
and as you say its going well back. :wink: :wink:

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This might help:

http://www.ibstock.com/pdfs/get-it-right/getitright4.pdf

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Nice one Perry, very clear.



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The end walls are now in place. They are obviously half walls as this is to be a low relief structure. I used a couple of pieces of card, cut as right angle triangles as inner supports for each wall. The next task will be painting the brick work and adding windows and the door, before I fix the roof on.





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