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 Posted: Fri Jan 1st, 2010 08:55 am
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travelling from ONE member in EACH country that participates,
How does this reconcile with this Everybody that wants to participate therefore can.:question

There seems to be a discrepancy between having only one member per country and all involved who wish to be.

I see nothing amiss with a single wagon being sent from A to B to C to D and so on with a suitable record of its progress made and presented at the exhibition. The wagon could still be run as part of a train. It might also be educational to calculate the approximate mileage it has clocked up from first despatch to ultimate arrival at Carn Brea.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 1st, 2010 10:08 am
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So each member has a wagon in the pick up freight




Not for one moment would I expect all 122 members to be involved, but this idea has not been thought though, to run a train with 122 large wagons behind it would be asking a lot to start with, and that's without the size of the fiddle yard ( at each end !) and then we have the transport side of 122 plus wagons !

Lets put some numbers down, 122 members = around 30/40% take up if we are lucky, with four members per wagon = 10 wagons, and also 40 photos/images these numbers mean that any body would not be bored looking at either the train or the way of viewing the photos at the show, even if all members did want to be involved, we would only have 30 wagons, and that would be to many.

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I'd go with a wagon from each Country / Region / Continent circulated to each member in that region for photographic record on their layout and then sent to Cornwall.

Anyone who wants to contribute to the module can include their contribution in the photo and then send the contribution to me for incorporating into the module.

We'd have Cornwall & Devon, Wales & Ireland, Scotland, England north of the Midlands, rest of the UK, Europe, America, Australia. The wagons could be different but all carrying the same agreed logo. Others might think of further geographical sub-divisions, but that's 8 wagons. 

That would allow a space for signatures on each wagon and still provide a good looking train.

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I would tend to agree with Jeffs last post bearing in mind this is global wagons from countries and regions would make more sense time and logistic wise

As Jeff has pointed out members can also contribute to othere members modules if they wish.

Logo wise although many of us know the barchester logo this to the public is a YMR show so for reconition purposes the logo needs to have YMR on it.

We can have a Blue peter logo competition if you want

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So are we talking several of the same wagon perhaps to be purchased as a job lot from Camborne and sent their separate ways, or are we thinking each area to purchase something of their local stock?

The latter may well cause compatibility issues with tolerances and couplers. Not to mention the often visible difference between HO and OO scale vehicles.

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 I would love to see 122 wagons but i will be Frank i think at best 60 -70 members will make the effort or be bothered to do one

I would hope to be proved wrong with that but my brain tells me i am right

The pm canvass is a good idea to make sure everyone has the oppurtunity

Jeffs idea is more likely to get more signatures

But there is no reason why the 122 idea cant run alongside it

cheers Brian

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In a funny sort of way the arrival of the loco I aquired from Rick's Penhayle Bay layout changed my perception of the forum from Virtual to Reality as it was a nice thought that the engine now hauling stock on my layout had performed a similar function on another forum members layout which was thousands of miles away .

It has given me the germ of an idea that could involve all members wherever they are in the world with our show . Obviously its not possible for everyone to attend or even have a layout that is able to attend .

So the idea is simple - a model of some sort  , something small - might be a wagon , a figure or a vehicle with a YMR logo is despatched by Bob from Spain  to  Chris at Kernow to arrive in time for the show . However it is not sent directly but goes through the post  via the members .. As each member receives it they take a photo of it on their layout or with one of their models and post the picture on the forum before sending it on to another member .

Eventually when the model reaches the show it is displayed with copies of some of the photographs and a map showing where they were taken and how far the model has travelled so showing the international nature of the forum.

What do you think ?


So, how did we get from here to where we are now?  The original idea was to have a wagon which is sent (posted) to as many YMR members as possible.  As the wagon arrives, we put it on our layout and take a photograph of it, which we then post on YMR.

We end up with a thread with lots of photos of the same wagon in dozens of places around the world.  We then print off the photos and arrange them on a map, etc., etc.

I supported the original idea.  I don't support where it's moved to (to where it's moved).



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Rick im sure we can between us we can iron out compatability problems that may arise

Lets agree exactly what we want to do be it one thing or more then we can iron out the wrinkles.

I think we will shortly need to nominate a few people to organise this othrewise we will end up with so many differant ideas that nothing will happen

 the nominated people can decide whats being done then announce it.

May i suggest 3 people from differant continents Pm Jeff saying they are willing to help organise this then between the 3 people and Jeff the whole thing can be sorted then announced.


Following Max`s last post this is the main reason for nominating people to organise this we are all individuals and have differant ideas so you have to have a few people organising otherwise natural dissagrements occur so please pm Jeff if you are willing to organise


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I'm with Max on this one.  I'll go with the original idea but don't like having the "Australian, Canadian, Devon, Scottish etc. etc." wagon - it's one sinlge YMR wagon that has circumnavigated the globe !!

If you want to sign the wagon - what about sending a certificate around with it so that it (the certificate) can be signed and dated for display at he exhibition.

One single wagon - hundreds of thousands of miles, photographed at every place it visits and the accompanying certificate signed and dated to record it's progress around the globe before ending up at the exhibition.

The route is mapped out with photos and strings showing where each was taken.



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I am with Max and Peter and several of the others on this as one of the thoughts behind the idea was that a single wagon was a way of uniting the forum membership . Cost consideration was another point in that the only outlay after aquisition of the wagon was for postage cost to the next destination which would not be onerous for the individual .I may have to concede however that in view of the logistics involved with the amount of time that the postal services in various countries take to get a packet from A to B to C  an identical 2nd or 3rd wagon might need to be in circulation to get round everyone.

However I am also of the opinion that there is considerable merit in the idea of having Forum trains running on the combined modules so if for example a group of Australian or Cornish members wish to get together to make up a train or for that matter an individual member wishes to do that I see nothing wrong with that at all but  I do think it needs to be a seperate project .



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I hate to point this out the original single wagon idea you do realise theres probably no more than 30 weeks to the show

Logistically i think you would find it very hard to get the Single wagon around the world to all members

To do that you will expecting every member to sign photo and get it despatched the same day then theres the variation in posting times plus with a single wagon the chances of it getting lost are greatly increased due to the volume of times it will be posted.

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