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 Posted: Tue Dec 14th, 2010 05:24 pm
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My word you have been busy! The vegetation looks very tasty.

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ElDavo wrote:
The vegetation looks very tasty.

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Thanks Dave but personally I wouldn't eat it myself :roll::lol:



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Yet another first class layout on this forum!

I am very impressed with the way the coal stage has blended in with the bank behind it, it looks like it has been there for years.

Very nicely done.

look forward to seeing more. SOON!

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That looks great Nick..............where do you get the grass and ivy from?

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First class, Nick.  :thumbs



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I hope mine looks half as good, Woody!

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This is a serious looking pro layout mate. Love it, the overgrown stuff and broken fence is excellent.

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It looks jusy great Nick. :thumbs

The vegitation is excellent and, whilst I love that rosebay willow-herb, the poppies are fantastic.  Is there going to be some info on how you did the willow-herb ?  I presume the poppies are bits of red scatter sprinkled on...:roll:

Rosebay willow-herb was, and still is, a feature of  "derelict" ground.  It was very common on bomb-sites in post-war Britain - even in the centre of towns.  Those were in the days before herbicides cleaned everything up (including the wildlife !!)



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Thanks guys

John - the grass is Mininatur static grass a mix of shades, Autumn 4.5mm long and winter 6.00mm long. I chose these as even the layout is set in summer, the summer shades are far too green.

Phill - Broken fence :thud What broken fence. The GWR don't allow broken fences.:roll: I can't see it unless you mean the one running from the bridge at high level which is not broken but just finishes at the baseboard edge. It will be attached to another bridge when I get round to building the next baseboard;-)

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John - forgot to say that the ivy is by Mininatur as well. It comes in a mat about 10 x15 cm and you can cut bits off and pull them apart as you like.

Petermac - The Rosebay willow herb is easy.

I used mauve coloured scatter and some small clumps of green foliage, any maufacturer's products will do.

1. Cut some bristles of a yard brush or something similar,
2. dip the top about a centimetre into pva glue and then..
3. plunge it into a small bag or container of mauve coloured scatter.
4. Set aside to dry for a few hours.
5. brush some neat pva onto the area where you want the plants to be
6. drop some rough green scatter on the wet pva and leave to dry.
7. when dry remove the excess scatter by hoovering.
8. drill small holes (1mm?) through the rough green scatter
9. put a blob of pva on the bottom of the bristle and plant.

The poppies are done by taking a brush charged with neat pva and drawing it carefully and lightly over the top of the static grass to just leave a small blob of glue on the end of the grass fibres. Then I just sprinkled some reddish coloured flock on the top. Again leave to dry and then hoover off any excess.

Easy peasy :cheers



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Thanks for the explanation Nick.

Is your hoover one of those minature ones or is it a biggie that sucks up the whole layout if you're not careful ?



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Petermac wrote:
Thanks for the explanation Nick.

Is your hoover one of those minature ones or is it a biggie that sucks up the whole layout if you're not careful ?


Petermac - I use a normal cylinder type with a flexible hose. But here is the trick. Put a bit of cloth over the hose (I use an old T shirt) and suck the scatter up through that. It reduces the chance of it lifting bits you don't want it to and you can recover the scatter and reuse it :thumbs



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Thanks Nick :thumbs

You could always use the "Doofer-vac" as designed by our own Dooferdog which also reduces the vacuum.  The last time I vacuumed my module, I lost a bit of fencing, most of the grass from the embankment and half the road surface .......................

I wondered if I was missing something in my technique ...............:roll::roll::lol::lol:



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Petermac wrote: ...  I wondered if I was missing something in my technique ...............:roll::roll::lol::lol:


You are supposed to use glue Peter, not screws!


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Glue you Dave !!! :cheers



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Seeing another thread about the 'Grassinator' reminded me that I hadn't done an update since just before Christmas.

Not much has happened on the scenic front recently as I've been building a number of wagon kits but I have managed to improve this area and thought I would do a 'how to' to show how simple some basic scenery detailing can be. Note the awful joint in the bridge wall. Unfortunately I forgot to take any photos of how I did the static grass but my technique is probably the same as most other explanations here.



The first step is to take some polyfibre, I use Woodland Scenics, cut into pieces about 25mm square and tease them out into a variety of shapes. Stick down with copious amounts of neat pva glue and leave to set in place. Note that the joint in the brickwork has disappeared alreday. You can hide a multitude of sins :roll: 




When the polyfibre is firmly attached to the ground, take a brush and dab neat pva all over the polyfibre.

Keep going until you end up with something like this.



Next take your preferred scatter material, I've used a mix of Javis medium and dark green grass scatter and drop it all over from a height. Just as though Celebrity Cooks like to garnish their dishes. :lol: You'll end up with something lke this.





Leave to overnight to dry and then vacuum up the excess. I use a normal vacuum cleaner but wrap a bit of old cloth around the end to catch the loose scatter so that I can reuse it. :thumbs



You can see how effective it is. Looking closer at your work and you'll see a quite convincing and airy bush or two




To lift it to the next level there needs to be some variety in the type of undergrowth and some a sapling or two. I use Woodland Scenics fine foliage which is quite expensive :sad: but comes in a variety of shades and goes a long way. It is intended for detailing trees but in each box there are usually a few pieces that make suitable saplings on their own such as this one.




Drill a hole, put a spot of neat pva in the hole and plant it. a bit more pva around the base for good measure and leave to set. The glue applicator is one of the best things I have ever bought. For thse who don't know it's called a 'Fine tip applicator' and allows you to put a small spot of pva or a fine line of glue just where you want it.




A few more bits of fine foliage complete the basic growth on the bank. There will be some more detailing such as flowers and also a bank of nettles behind the permanent way hut in the final photo. 



Finally to looking down the bank to the station in the distance. Next up is the large area on the left but I can't make my mind up what to do here. Suggestions welcome ;-) 



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Hm - nice Woody - very nice !! :thumbs:thumbs

Haven't got time to chat - I'm going back to study it in more detail.

p.s. those "Fine Tip Applicators" are as you say - wonderful gadgets.  I think I posted something on here about them somewhere but they're well worth investing in and not expensive.  Maybe I'll put something in the "Tools & Equipment" section :roll:



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Very convincing effect indeed. I'm convinced by this post that it's the variety of texture and colour side by side that add the realism. I like the look of the PVA Acclipator  too.  I wonder if that well know Cornish Pirate [supporter] sells them? :thumbs:thumbs


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Very,very nice indeed Nick.A proper masterclass in foliage.I'll steer my mate Salfordman towards this thread.

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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dooferdog wrote: Very convincing effect indeed. I'm convinced by this post that it's the variety of texture and colour side by side that add the realism. I like the look of the PVA Acclipator  too.  I wonder if that well know Cornish Pirate [supporter] sells them? :thumbs:thumbs


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No Doug - it's made and marketed by a small private company -

           http://www.finetip.co.uk

Recommended by your friend Mr Wiffen - and there's some of his work in their gallery. :thumbs



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