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 Posted: Mon Oct 11th, 2010 02:23 pm
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      I'd go with the 1st location,apart from the path leading to it,a loco would fill up there prior to running round on its train for the return journey.

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

P.S. Very nice job on the conversion,btw!!:pathead


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 Posted: Mon Oct 11th, 2010 02:43 pm
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Well I checked Stephen Williams and he has all these track plans in Part One but doesnt mention the location water towers/tanks

So I checked Paul Karau's GW Branch Line Termini which has detailed track plans for a number of termini however virtually all of them have (or originally had) an Engine Shed in which case the water tank or tower was adjacent to the shed often sited so that it could serve the shed siding and the line............re reading your thread I dont think you are planning a shed......if you are I think the tower has to be near it.........if you are not then I think your first option is the best and is almost identical to Lambourn in 1948 (after the shed was removed. There is a photo on Page 46 of Williams Part 2 

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I don't know if you plan to run tender locos but in option 1 there wouldn't be enough room to get the bag into the tender if it ran chimney first into the station - option 2 seems much more feasible to me.

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Hello Nick,

                Option 2, mate, as you would be able "to water" locomotives on both secondary-tracks. Coal-Staithes should be close-by and yard-crane adjacent. Just my immediate thoughts, Nick,

                                                                                Kind Regards,

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This is going to be a nice layout once all the technicalities are sorted out. I like it a lot.

Only one small piece of constructive criticism and that is it's much too clean! I think your track needs a bit of weathering. Not too many weeds mind, The GWR would never have countenanced weed infested track!

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Fidge wrote: I don't know if you plan to run tender locos but in option 1 there wouldn't be enough room to get the bag into the tender if it ran chimney first into the station - option 2 seems much more feasible to me.
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Lovely job on the water tower, Nick. I went with the flat top too, but I never finished it, so thanks for showing me how it might have looked :lol:

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I'd go for the second option too, mainly for the 'tender' question, apart from the artistic question of having everything 'bunged up one end'.

As your goods shed has only a small platform, could the area served by the little path could feature a small wooden platform like the one below for dropping things off that are soon to be collected?  Maybe it could be a bit 'pointy' at one end to go into the vee of the trackwork?





I do like this thread!

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Thanks for the opinions on the water tower location but it's inconclusive. Tender engines are not a problem as the biggest one I have or will run is a 43xx mogul and it has plenty of room. Other considerations I've thought if I go for option 2 are it reduces the goods yard area and leaves a big space at location 1 that needs filling with something.

There isn't going to be an engine shed, it is assumed to be beyond the bridge, however I was thinking of having another water crane at the other end of the platform near the cattle dock where the coaling stage will eventually be.

Is this likely or would there have only been one watering point at such a small terminus as this?



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dooferdog wrote:
I'd go for the second option too, mainly for the 'tender' question, apart from the artistic question of having everything 'bunged up one end'.

As your goods shed has only a small platform, could the area served by the little path could feature a small wooden platform like the one below for dropping things off that are soon to be collected?  Maybe it could be a bit 'pointy' at one end to go into the vee of the trackwork?





I do like this thread!

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Doug
I like your platform and will give the idea some thought if I decide to move the water tower further down the loop.

I have already planned and have started building a slightly hacked version of the Scalescenes small shed (shed reduced in width a bit) with an additional length of timber platform to extend further along the goods shed road. Funnily enough it was looking back through this thread and seeing your West of England Sack Company version that gave me the idea. ;-)



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pnwood wrote:
There isn't going to be an engine shed, it is assumed to be beyond the bridge, however I was thinking of having another water crane at the other end of the platform near the cattle dock where the coaling stage will eventually be.

Is this likely or would there have only been one watering point at such a small terminus as this?


I didnt know about the coaling stage. It would be both logical and prototypical to have a water supply there. In fact you may be better to assume there is no engine shed beyond the bridge.........if there were there would certainly be a water tower adjacent and then you would have three water points (one off scene) which is highly unlikely.

Dont know if that helps or confuses!

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John Dew wrote:
pnwood wrote:
There isn't going to be an engine shed, it is assumed to be beyond the bridge, however I was thinking of having another water crane at the other end of the platform near the cattle dock where the coaling stage will eventually be.

Is this likely or would there have only been one watering point at such a small terminus as this?


I didnt know about the coaling stage. It would be both logical and prototypical to have a water supply there. In fact you may be better to assume there is no engine shed beyond the bridge.........if there were there would certainly be a water tower adjacent and then you would have three water points (one off scene) which is highly unlikely.

Dont know if that helps or confuses!

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Ah! But I didn't say how far beyond the bridge, John;-):lol:

Lets assume that it is a mile or so down the line near Much Murkle quarry.



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Dukedog wrote: This is going to be a nice layout once all the technicalities are sorted out. I like it a lot.

Only one small piece of constructive criticism and that is it's much too clean! I think your track needs a bit of weathering. Not too many weeds mind, The GWR would never have countenanced weed infested track!

Cheers!


Thank you Frank, constructive criticism is always welcome, especially from someone with your experience. 

The track has been weathered, rails sides painted and ballast dirtied, maybe it doesn't show up too well on the photos. Maybe this earlier one shows it better.


The yard surface does need a bit more weathering but again it is not quite as light as it shows in the photos. There is a lot of work still to do on the scenic details yet and apart from the weathereing on the water tower I've yet to pluck up the courage to do the buildings which are also far too clean.

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Since the last update, I've decided that the water tower definitely stays near the goods shed. I've been adding a bit of ground cover and vegetation since I got back from holiday and things are starting to take shape. My enthusiasm has definitely returned with a vengeance. ;-)

Looking down the goods yard entrance road




Looks like there's 'elL of a MesS in the goods yard.



Wood Bros need to get that fence repaired



An overgrown corner




The weighbridge, I'm thinking of scrapping this building as my techniques have improved so much in the last year or so and this was my first scratchbuilt building and it shows.



I need to make the backboard to go behind the fence on the left. The water tower needs bedding in.



A similar shot to the one above



High level view towards the station exit.



I had to climb on Wood Bros roof to take this one.

 

And the station roof for this one.

 


Hope you enjoy the update. :cheers




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enjoy we certainly did,all coming together nicely , keep the pics coming !

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 Some excellent shots there, i love all the foliage :doublethumb



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Absolutely, Kev.  Definitely some headerfoter condenders there.  :thumbs



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Out of the latest pictures I particularly like the damaged fence and the greenery over it, keep it coming, inspiring stuff :thumbs

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dooferdog wrote: Out of the latest pictures I particularly like the damaged fence and the greenery over it, keep it coming, inspiring stuff :thumbs

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Looks great with all the veg!

Do you have any figures to add?

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