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That's a great idea Woody. :thumbs  i was about to say these coat hangers are 10 a penny from the dry cleaners but they, being skinflints, don't use plastic coated ones ......:twisted::twisted:

Maybe a bit of foam rubber or something around where the stock sits would help protect the more delicate stock .........:roll::roll:



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An elegant solution, Woody.  :thumbs  You could always slip some heat shrink tube over the wire before you bend it, Peter.



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An elegant solution, Woody.  :thumbs  You could always slip some heat shrink tube over the wire before you bend it


Excellent idea Max, thanks I'll see what I can get hold of


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Never thought of that Max. :thumbs


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Hi Nick,

The magic letters GWR caught my eye in the 'Recent Topics' so I thought I'd have a quick look. Well ......... three hours later I'm sitting here utterly gobsmacked and completely lost for words. The attention to detail is amazing  and when I saw the Rosebay Willow Herb and the Poppies I was taken back to those halcyon days of my youth in the mid 50s. This is truly modelling at its absolute best and I have bookmarked it as I will be coming back time and time again because I just couldn't absorb it all in just one sitting. I hope you don't mind but I will probably be stealing a few of your ideas for my own N Gauge GWR layout when the time comes.

Many congratulations on the Hornby article which is a thoroughly deserved accolade to what must be one of the best GWR layouts around. Thank you so much for sharing your layout with us.

Incidentally the round ended bricks were called 'Bull-nose' bricks and were generally made in Staffordshire Blues though they were also available as both Red and Yellow Engineering bricks. They were not, to the best of my knowledge, made in common brick though.




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Hi Trevor

Three hours of reading through my thread :shock: Couldn't you sleep :lol:

Thanks for your kind comments. It's been a very enjoyable journey to get this far but it helps that Much Murkle is quite a small layout. I have put effort into the detail, trying to get the scene looking right. I still have more detailing to do especially using figures for cameo scenes but I have to be careful not to overdo it.

Planned projects are to replace the ground signals with cast items and add point rodding.

I was initially puzzled by your reference to the bricks. Being a Building Surveyor I know that round ended bricks are called 'bull nose' so I assumed you had picked it up in your read through somewhere. So I went back to the start of the thread and fortunately I think the reference is on the first page where I referred to 'capping bricks' ??

This is a generic term used in my home area in Lincolnshire for the top layer of brick on a wall (maybe in other areas as well), usually engineering brick quality as you rightly say but not necessarily bull nosed or cant bricks.

If it was another reference then could you please point out the post number so that I can have a look :thumbs

PS I think you've made a great start with the history and plans for your layout and I'll be watching it with interest as it develops.



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Hi Nick,

The bull-nose brick reference related to your little weigh bridge office here http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=4708&forum_id=21&page=2#p84297 and some of the comments that followed regarding the curved corner brickwork. I was a QS for 45 years before retiring in 2009 and I can vaguely remember my early days as an Articled Pupil when I was learning to 'take off' from drawings of a power station and having E.O. for Bull nose facing bricks as an item. Happy days ;-).

I don't take Hornby Magazine any more as the cost of sending magazines out to China is horrendous and any magazines I did try to have sent here just 'disappeared' in the post so I will have to try an get hold of a back copy when I return to UK in a couple of weeks. I take it that Much Murkle featured in the June issue  ?

Seeing some of the pictures of the tree lined track and the cows in the field took me back to my childhood in rural Shropshire they are so realistic.

If I can get even half way near the standard of Much Murkle with my Market Havering layout I will be more than satisified, particularly as it will be in N Gauge. Meanwhile I shall be following your further work with great interest.



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The bull-nose brick reference related to your little weigh bridge office here http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=4708&forum_id=21&page=2#p84297 and some of the comments that followed regarding the curved corner brickwork. I was a QS for 45 years before retiring in 2009 and I can vaguely remember my early days as an Articled Pupil when I was learning to 'take off' from drawings of a power station and having E.O. for Bull nose facing bricks as an item. Happy days ;-).

I don't take Hornby Magazine any more as the cost of sending magazines out to China is horrendous and any magazines I did try to have sent here just 'disappeared' in the post so I will have to try an get hold of a back copy when I return to UK in a couple of weeks. I take it that Much Murkle featured in the June issue  ?

Seeing some of the pictures of the tree lined track and the cows in the field took me back to my childhood in rural Shropshire they are so realistic.

If I can get even half way near the standard of Much Murkle with my Market Havering layout I will be more than satisified, particularly as it will be in N Gauge. Meanwhile I shall be following your further work with great interest.


Ah! I now see where it came from. I will use the excuse of replying in the terminology that Sol used in his post that I was responding to. :roll: Happy days for me too, mainly arguing with the QS's :lol:

I'm not sure if you can get Hornby Magazine as a download when abroad, you can in the UK. It was the July issue Trevor.

If you are interested Trevor, I described the construction of most of my buildings in separate threads. If you search for 'Much Murkle' in the Scratchbuilding Forum you should find them.



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Why does everyone think of QSs as being the Devil's henchmen. :twisted: We've all got our jobs to do (or in my case 'had' our jobs to do) and, unfortunately, a lot of engineers etc. seem to forget that the object of the exercise is not to just finish the build but to actually make a profit at it. Shareholders tend to get upset when you don't  :lol:

Anyway, enough shop talk. I will certainly be re-reading your thread several times as I'm sure I missed a lot of the the subtleties when I read it the first time due to the incredible photos. I will look out for the other links next time.

As I will be returning to lve in the UK in just a few days now I will look at the Honrby web site where I'm sure they will have a back copies facility.



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Why does everyone think of QSs as being the Devil's henchmen. :twisted: We've all got our jobs to do (or in my case 'had' our jobs to do) and, unfortunately, a lot of engineers etc. seem to forget that the object of the exercise is not to just finish the build but to actually make a profit at it. Shareholders tend to get upset when you don't  :lol:



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Well I looked into Max's idea of shrink wrapping the wire and was just about to buy some when Janet came up with a whole load of wire coat hangers from her work that had a much more flexible coating, so problem solved. I wrapped the ends in some thin foam and fixed it with a wrapping of insulation tape. Cheap and simple does the job

I've built some more cassettes and have also knocked up a storage rack for them.

Cassettes built so far
4 x 600mm
1 x 1000mm
4 x 300mm



I need to have a running session now and work through the sequence to find out how many more cassettes I need.

Look out for some photos of running trials soon.

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I went through the Hornby pictures on a previous occasion and found myself saying...'Oh! Yes!' then 'Oh! 'Yes!' and 'Oh! Yes!'.

I've just been back through them, and I found myself saying..'Oh! Yes!' then 'Oh! 'Yes!' and 'Oh! Yes!'.

I expect I'll do the same at a later date, too.

Well done, and congratulations on being published,

 

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Thanks Doug

After having a bit of a running session I've worked out that I still need to build a few more cassettes, mainly for the engines, but I'm getting a bit of a rest from cassette building so I taken a few new photos. Hope you enjoy them.

The local haulier Derek Dyer and Harold Bowman discuss tactics for the forthcoming Much Murkle versus Kempstone Annual Pocket Billiards challenge match.



They are still at it in black and white



5531 prepares to pull away after taking on water



Rancoutt's is busy today with vans from all four companies in evidence. The roof of the GW van on the far right looks like it needs some maintenance.



A different view of the factory yard.



Plenty of apples arriving



After bringing the B set in, 3217 enters the loop to run around.



A couple of cows show interest at what's going on over the fence.



5531 brings in the afternoon goods



Having 'knocked off' at the end of the day the Platelaying Gang will be in trouble for not putting their tools away.



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Another crop of really stunning photos Woody - you must be thrilled with the way it's turned out. :pathead

During this Olympic fortnight, please keep us informed of the heats in the forthcoming Kempstone vs Much Murkle tournament - we're on the edge of our seats :roll: .............:mutley:mutley:mutley

Joking aside, that really is one heck of a good picture. :cheers



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That truck looks like mine in my Bridge thread ,  in that the left hand side spring has gone exclam: 
Also both trucks,  from the MM    & the D&S , have no registration plates on the front :mutley

 

Outside of that, yes, very nice scenes.

 

 

On Edit, just re-checked my truck - it does have registration plates but has more of a lean than the MM truck !



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Another crop of really stunning photos Woody - you must be thrilled with the way it's turned out. :pathead

During this Olympic fortnight, please keep us informed of the heats in the forthcoming Kempstone vs Much Murkle tournament - we're on the edge of our seats :roll: .............:mutley:mutley:mutley

Joking aside, that really is one heck of a good picture. :cheers


Thanks Peter, yes I am pleased but there is still lots I would like to do or improve. I know now what is meant when said that a layout is never finished.

Apparently Derek and Harold have decided that to win the pocket billiards they need bigger pockets :shock::roll::lol:



Ron, the registration plate is one of those little jobs that get forgotten about in the bigger picture, along with the hauliers sign on the roof. I'll get round to it at some point. Not sure about the LH spring, it might be the camera angle. It can't be rectified now in any case with it all glued together.



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Having completed the cassettes and played trains for a while, my thoughts have now turned to improving Much Murkle's presentation in the hope that I might one day get that elusive first exhibition invite.

It was always intended that MM would have a fascia to the front and side with lighting and coupled with a design I saw on a layout at Railex earlier this year and the good fortune of acquiring sufficient quantity of FREE slotted shelving from my wife's employers I have made a start.

Six upright slots are bolted to the baseboards, one at each end inset 70mm from the end. The biggest problem was getting them aligned so that the slots were completely level to each other. Lucky I have a laser level

Two of the uprights



Bolted to the baseboard, they are surprisingly strong.



The brackets which slot in. I drilled two holes through the side of the first bracket and then used this as a jig clamped to the others to ensure that the holes  were all in the same position.



I had a number of hardboard strips cut to exactly 100mm wide, left by some roofers when they laid the flat roof on my garage extension last year. I knew they would come in handy some day

I cut them into 600mm lengths and again using the first clamp as a jig drilled holes so that I could bolt one strip to each side of the bracket. The top back corner was cut off to ensure it didn't foul the upright when removing it. The photo shows the bracket temporarily in place.



Hardboard is quite flexible on its own so needs to be braced. The brackets are 12mm wide so I sourced some 12mm thick softwood to provide the "meat in the sandwich" which provides all the stiffness needed.

Strips glued into position on one side. The short strip on the end will provide the fixing for the slot on fascia and needs to be absolutely square and flush with the end of both hardboard strips.



A number of glued brackets weighted until thoroughly dry.



and finally (for now) a completed bracket ready for the next stage.



More to come....

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You have built a beautiful layout......:thumbs
Everything just looks so natural,your scenic work is exemplary.
Look forward to more updates...



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Have just been looking at these pictures again and it impresses me even more.

Can you tell me what the smooth surface is in the factory yard and how you applied it - it looks very good with it being up to track level.   (I have to do something similar for my quayside warehouse yard).

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Hi Ken

I described the method in post 324, but it is basically built up with a layer of 2mm card glued to the baseboard with pva. Pva is then thinly applied to the card and air drying modelling clay pressed down on the top. You can then smooth the top with a wet knife and if needed press fine dust into the clay to give a bit of texture. Once dry you can paint any colour that suits your ground conditions. Watered down emulsion or acrylics are bet for this.

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