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 Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 01:28 pm
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I have been making a few wills kits for my small town i have got some to what i call the finer detailing stage.

At the rear of the town i first intended to use some scalescene terraced half relief houses but since doing the wills kits i thought i would continue using the same type of materials so to give better continuity rather than mixing card and plastic buildings.

Now there is not a kit for a row of terraced cottages and i intend to make them what i would call 2/3 relief i probably need in the region of 16 dwellings and this will be done in two blocks of 8 cottages

the design is in my head but i will sketch a few bits as i do them just to check things fit as i think they should do

The base materials will be the wills sheets of plasticard but as i am making them 2/3rd relief i will use basic plasticard in places that are not visible.

Now this is my first serious atempt at making something purely from scratch so hopefully i will not make a pigs ear of them.

i will post piccys as i progress

One of the first things i need to do is decide on wall hieghts and roof tie ins as you are limited by the size of the Wills building sheets.

cheers Brian

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 Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 01:56 pm
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go for it Brian. Look forward to seeing progress

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 Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 02:35 pm
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actually thinking about my description 2/3rd relief may be wrong it may be 1/3rd relief?

I am building 2/3rds of the depth of the building so which of the above 2 is correct i am unsure perhaps someone knows which is right.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 02:39 pm
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 Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 03:19 pm
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I did buy 2 packs of the wills windows and doors at £4.31 a pack you dont get that many of what you can actually use as its a mixture of bits so i am thinking i may try and make some window frames myself from some white plasticard if i keep them simple they may be ok and save me a few quid

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Can you use any of the scaled drawings/plans from all the other kits that you have made to help you with the size/s of the cottages ?

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Yes you could for some of the dimentions i am using some of them from the post office drawing for certain aspects the rest i am making up as i go along

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Either way Brian, I am looking forward to the build, and of course the photo's :thumbs

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I think they just have half relief and then low relief so that should cover everything Brian!

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Ok

Update of progress I have now cut to size the fronts for 8 cottages and cut out all the window and door frame openings also the 2 end walls.

As these are terraced cottages this is all the stone plasticard i need to use for this as any internal stuff i will use basic plasticard i may yet have external chimney breasts on the ends but this is an option really so havent decided that yet.

I now need to see how well these sheeets will butt together whether in need to do anything to cover the sheet jiont or not.

I have a to do another 8 aswell yet but have not got enough plasticard to do them at the moment.

Part of the reason for doing this scatchbuild is on my two modules i will have to make 2 sets of house type buildings the same but differant time periods so this will give me an indiication that i can actual make something presentable scratchbuilding them




More later perhaps if i get chance

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Did you say ealier that you have brought the windows and doors to fit Brian ?

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Yes i did buy 2 packs of the wills window and door packs but of course it is a mixture of window styles and surrounds some of which are not right for the cottages

They cost £4.37 a pack so i have decided to have a go at making some frames myself from white plasticard.

If i keep them simple in the framing method i should be able to make them ok

cheers Brian

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That is a great start Brian. I always like to watch a scratchbuild project. Have fun with those windows, they are quite fiddly to make yourself, at least they have been for me. I choose to buy pre-made windows and doors, they just looked so much better than I could make them. If you can solve that problem, I will pay very close attention to what you are doing.

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A good start Brian. I am watching keenly as well; stone cottages such as are common in our part of the world are not available ready made and mine will also need to be scratch-built soon enough.

We can even represent the 2-feet thick stone walls accurately with plastic sheets!

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Time for another update

I have now butted all the front walls together they did marry quite well the corners were mitred and it was all glued together.

I then cut basic plasticrd as a backing sheet plus roof supports and strengtheners

i then glued it all together




on to the next stage now of cutting roof sections

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Don't forget we have some good links in the Forum Index about making windows. One of them might give you ideas.



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I looked at them bob mainly card based so i will have to experiment with plasticard

It may pay me to look throgh a few of Perrys or waynes threads thou

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What about the one by Dave Bentley, that was all plastic as I recall.



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Yes it is plastic glazing but the sticky backed paper to give the frame colour

trouble is if i did the next set like that it would stand out as a totally differant method of window framing so i need to keep continuity and do them in a method which will look the same style.

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I have never built windows before, but this is how I would attempt them.

Using a piece of clear plastic scribe the window using the cutout from each wall, and then make up each window using the scribe lines as your guides, and using a siliar method from the doors, just a thought

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