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 Posted: Wed Nov 3rd, 2010 06:59 am
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I use the disposable 'greaseproof' tear-off paper palettes for acrylics, Mike.
During work I keep these wettish as recommended and the paint doesn't go off.
Although the pads aren't cheap, the 'pages' are cheaper than paint.

I've never tried long term storage though.



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 Posted: Wed Nov 3rd, 2010 08:05 am
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Yes same here dd. In fact, I use cheap greaseproof paper most of the time.

Oils can be kept 'alive' in the fridge. It may work with acrylics too, but I haven't tried it.

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"Oils can be kept 'alive' in the fridge"

Not here they can't!
We've just bought a new fridge freezer and SWMBO is still very protective of the thing, although ...
MiL has a habit of putting left-over food in our 'fridge.
Many saucers appear after a visit - some containing half a slice of cucumber or similar.
A different generation.



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Hello DD,
Very simple choice then, mate. Ban the M-I-L from the house and use the fridge space for the surplus paint. :roll: That should work a treat, DD. Or work on the argument that M-I-L wouldn't mind/object to "left-overs" in the fridge so why should her daughter. :lol:  Do you have house-hold insurance that is inclusive of "self-inflicted" injuries?
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PS:- You could always buy a small second-hand table fridge.

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ddolfelin wrote: "Oils can be kept 'alive' in the fridge"

Not here they can't!
We've just bought a new fridge freezer and SWMBO is still very protective of the thing,




Humph. So plastic boxes of fishing maggots are a bit of a no-no then?  :It's a no no


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Yes - a no no.
Not even in 2mm.



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"Ban the M-I-L from the house"

That's an unfulfilled dream.
I've tried everything, even offered her the beams with splinters when she sleeps over.

That's not really fair.
She has a large and kindly heart.
She keeps it in the Fridge.



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Disclaimer: as I said on page 1, there are countless variations of things such as rust, concrete, brickwork and timber. The mixes I'll show here are meant as guidelines - not gospel.
 For each one I'll show how I'd mix it with my Jo Sonjas acrylics, but I'll also show how I'd achieve something similar with more conventional colours, in case you don't have the JS.

 First up - unweathered concrete.

 Dead easy with JS. I'd suggest Linen + white





 Even straight linen wouldn't be diisastrous. Weathering would alter the look, but with so many variables when it comes to weathering, all I'm doing is suggesting a suitable base colour.

 Without using Jo Sonja's Background Colours I came up with the following concoction...



 I mixed a grey with white and black - about 90% to 10%, then snuck in a little Raw Umber [which unfortunately looks black in this photo] and a touch of bright yellow.  I much prefer raw umber to burnt umber in all forms of painting, but that's just me.

 Another dose of white was needed after that...





and the same mix scrubbed onto a piece of white foam, so you can see how the two differ in tone...





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Brilliant - just what I need for my factory diorama !!

I'm using water colours, but the selection & merging of colours should be achievable...



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Thanks Mike. So very helpful. I am going to be archiving both photos and words of wisdom ready for the many times I know I will want to refer to them as and when I work on the scenic parts of my layout.

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Thanks Stu and Jeff. It's nice to hear that someone may find it useful.

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 Obviously there's no all-embracing formula for rust, but here's one I came up with while waiting for my GP9 to dry.

 This is a Jo Sonja's mix of Chestnut and Deep Plum. Willow would be handy for subduing the colour if needed.



 I'll add some more when time permits.

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Hmmm, that's Deep Plum added to the list... shopping we will go, a shopping we will go.



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Plenty of Jo Sonja's products available here but no Background Colours :cry: Our local craft shop - normally quite good - hadn't heard of them. The only other local source (Bunnings Warehouse) has a good range of everything except what I want. :twisted:

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Typical!

I purchase art materials from this site http://www.artstore.net.au/acrylic-paints/jo-sonja/cat_122.html

Reliable, but not overly speedy. I don't think they stock the entire range either.

Incidentally, every colour chart I see depicts willow as a sort of brown, but my bottle is clearly marked 'willow' and it's yellowish green.

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Hi MikeC.  Very good work, I should have looked here first, instead I googled it, I discovered that when artists begin a new painting they use “Gesso” as my new idea is a babkscene on plywood , I purchased so,e gesso. The idea as you most likely know is the same as priming and sanding between coats, very similar to applying varnish, the first coat is done and dry. Now for the Sky and Clouds, have you got any specifics that you can share for my next steps please.Best wishes.  Kevin



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Hi Kevin

Mike is a former member, so he won't see your post.

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Hi Max.   Thank you.  Silly me, I should start reading stuff.  Best wishes. Kevin



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Just stumbled across this thread and have to say a big thanks to mike. I've seen your layout in the flesh, along with Sol, Max and a couple of others and was well impressed.



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Here's another one. I completely missed page 2 :oops: But it's still a good thread and a shame that Mike is no longer on here. Hope he's OK.



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