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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 04:26 pm
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Took advantage of  a couple of dry days and got the portable workbench into the garden. Currently on the bench is a 4 wheel coach lower footboards still to be fitted to chassis. J94 needing a major clean up and fittings fitted. 27XX hand rails, safety valve, vents etc., etc to be fitted. The body is not fitted to the footplate and is only placed on for effect. I only started it Friday lunch time so there is still a long way to go.






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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 05:12 pm
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Mike this is great to watch

When you say you started friday lunchtime is that the coach or the J94 bodywork?

i presume all the parts you had pre made and just soldered it together?

I look forward to updates to watch how you do this

cheers Brian

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 05:33 pm
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That looks like my workbench, always tidy  :roll:

Which kit is the coach Mike, as it looks to have a lot of detail on the moulded sides

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 07:14 pm
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Hi Guys, the coach is an etched brass kit from Branch Lines, it was the 27XX I started on Friday Lunch time. The frames were two pieces of brass tack soldered together then drilled for axle bushes, frame spacers, plunger pick/ups and brakes then cut out using a piercing saw with 00' blades (all 6 of them)!! the body is from nickle silver, boiler parts rolled using my rollers, rivets punched up using my very old rivet press parts cut using a piercing saw and the firebox top cold formed using a hammer and wooden former.In the words of my Meerkat friends "simple". Oh! I photocopied the drawings cut them out, then using a low tack spray mount, stuck them to the brass and nickle silver to use as templates...

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 07:17 pm
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Thanks Mike

Like your new Avatar :thumbs

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 07:21 pm
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when you do your soldering do you just use an electric soldering iron or do you sometimes use a blowtorch on larger areas?

cheers Brian

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Hi Brian, always use an electric iron, most of the 27XX has been done with an old Weller 75 watt other work with an Antex 25 watt. Carrs flux and tips cleaned with a stainless steel scourer, I never us a sponge. Solder is Carrs easyflow, Low melt and standard 3 core. I use my 75 watt for low melt by putting the iron near to the joint but not touching it, just letting the near heat melt the solder. You do need a steady hand and lots of practice, its certainly not for the faint hearted.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 10:50 pm
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Nice one, Mike.

Please do keep posting the progress of your stock building. It's a little different to the normal posts on here and very interesting to follow. :thumbs

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I second that. I love looking at 0 scale stuff.

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Mike wrote:  its certainly not for the faint hearted.


You're telling me :shock:

Really neat seeing how this sort of thing is put together Mike.

How do the kits compare with RTR cost wise?



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keep them coming please,as you said not for the faint hearted,
tried it once, made a right pigs ear of it and never bothered since
but i can solder now etc might just give it another go..

:hmm:thumbs:lol::lol::lol::lol::cool:

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Hi Marty, cost of build against cost of rtr ( unpainted) about 50%. However, the J94 was from an old Mercian Kit and was a real pain in the butt. The coach kit was picked up at an 0 gauge bring and buy and cost less than a third of a Slaters plastic kit.

The 27XX is scratch from nickel silver sheet and 1/8th brass for the frames, almost all of the bits are from my bodging drawers so she will have cost about £30 against say a Tower Models pannier at £450. Of course you can't put a price on your time so I think for me it's down to personal preference rather than cost.

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i can certainly see the advantages of building your own locos cost wise especiallt O gauge like you do.

I have looked at o gauge prices RTR and have always thought they are really way out of my league but if the time is available really you could probably build an O gauge layout within the sames regions of cost as an OO one.

cheers Brian

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Nice work Mike.
Now a question...
Where can I buy the bits for scratch building 0 gauge locos and stock?
I'm talking about bits like cylinders, chimneys, domes safety valves etc.
Modellers Mecca still have some bits but very limited stock since Roy Millership sold the business a few years back.
Any contacts or web addresses would be useful.
Thanks

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Hi Frank, go to the 0 gauge guild site and click on links to traders. if you use the search facility you will find a myriad of suppliers of bits and bobs. You don't have to be a member to use the site. Failing that you could always go to Guildex Sept 5th/ 6th at Telford and see almost all the 0 gauge traders under one roof.

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Mike wrote:  Of course you can't put a price on your time so I think for me it's down to personal preference rather than cost.


... thanks Mike.

and, I think, that with an 0 gauge layout, I would need less stock to be, personally, happy.  Something about storing it all too.

Very useful, sometime in the future, once the N scale layout is finished, a dabble in 0 or G is on the cards.

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Slowly, slowly the 27XX moves on- still loads to do. Chassis needs guard irons, AWS shoe and the brake rod needs to be changed to flat strip when I can source some suitable brass. The body needs bunker fire iron hooks and lamp irons, front and rear steam heat pies and pipe work along each valance. Roof needs whistles and the whole thing needs excess solder removed and to be really well cleaned. She will be numbered 2791 (Wolverhampton Stafford Road- 84A) so she will be at home on Pattingham.

 Just looking at the photos, I see I've forgotten the 4 lifting rings and the 2 tank straps, I'm also not sure if it should have a steam lance and a smoke box lubricator.:hmm

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Mike things like the funnel and dome etc i presume you buy from somewhere or do you have you own centre lathe?

cheers Brian

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Hi Brian, the chimney and dome are commercial products, but the safety valve I turned myself, as it has a simple flat bottom and didn't need to be fly cut.

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Well other than steam heat pipes, shes finished. She has been well and truly cleaned and is now in primer. Once shes thoroughly dry I'll paint the chassis black, fit the plunger p/u's etc. The body will receive its first coat of green (Land Rover bronze green) and by next weekend she will be fully finished and running. Then I'll start finishing the J94............

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