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My printer uses 4 cartrages that work out at 57p each from ukdvdr (link in earler post). Never had any problems with them in the past couple of years.

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If someone has already said this, I apologise, but haven't seen it.........

John Wiffen has thoughtfully provided a test sheet so that you can see how his colours come out on your printer.

I understand you do not have to pay to print it.

You may, like me,  find you would prefer to increase 'gamma' to give a lighter print, but whatever you do, the very minute the sheet comes out of the printer, write down on the reverse every single setting you used to produce it, including what sort of paper it is.*

Good Luck.

http://www.scalescenes.com/test/scalescenes_test_print.pdf


* otherwise you'll be as stupid as me and spend hours trying to reproduce a particularly pleasing colour!

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Dave,will have to try them.

Rick, the job is 35 sheets,plus colour adjustments and reprints from faults
it soon mounts up.

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Owen is that 35 sheets for the set of 3 terrace houses?

If so im glad i had my wicked plan sunday if i had used scalscenes terraced house that would be over 100 sheets for what i wanted to do if 35 each

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Many sheets are 'internals' and details in these kits. If your building is to be visible from only one side or from a distance you can chose which to print, or, do a screen capture and place a big white square over the patrs you don't need.

That can help a bit, too.



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Brian, it was a set of four, bit as doof said most where internal,plus
twelve sheets of instructions

now i know better i will only print what i need.

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thats not so bad then of course as its a pdf you dont really need to print the instructions

plus the internal stuff isnt going to use colour ink

when you said 35 sheets if thought doodoo how many printed sheets must that new large staiton they do take

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When I built my houses and shops at christmas (still to finish!) I only printed the outsides as the windows have tissue paper stuck behind them. The window frames look great however when printed on to clear plastic. ;-)

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Brian the internals do need colour they are pics for walls, carpets ,bookcases etc
but it still takes 18-20 sheets for the building.

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Remember, to give the windows a more realistic 'scale' black/very dark grey, you can lightly dust the freshly printed acetates with talcum powder, leave at least an hour to dry and then brush off with a soft brush.............

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=3347&forum_id=14&highlight=windows+print+doofer

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Yes, the Scalescene test page is good, that is how I determined I needed the addional colour for my warehouse.

I must admit I have not considered the printing cost, paper is the cheapest at 1p a page, Ink, 4 new cartridges would cost 28 quid & if that did not do at least 100 pages of lots of colour, I don't what! So based on 35 pages for houses, I would anticipate it would cost me 9-10 pounds max.
It maybe that Metcalfe are a better financial situation for some buildings.

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Interesting discussion on the cost of scalescenes vs metcalfe - I had started to think about that but never got round to checking it out but maybe it's time to look more closely.

I find the scalescenes are more adaptable than metcalfe if you want to play about with the design of the building so for that reason alone I'll probably keep using them, especially for low relief work which predominates on my scenery.  The adaptability means I can create more variety in the buildings.  To cut down on page printing I have to confess to a bit of a cheat - on some pages there are parts I need a lot of and others only a few so I cut out the popular pieces and stick them on a white sheet and scan it in so that I can then print multiple copies of just the parts I need.  I also don't keep printing the base layers - just one set and then make templates to mark out the card when I am building multiple houses.

On the subject of printers I have an Epson Photo RX560 and after a lot of problems with my previous Epson using compatible cartridges - poor colour, frequent head cleaning which really does get through the cartridges, short cartridge life and in the end up, short printer life I decided I'd stick with Epson originals this time.  I would never again use compatibles - although more expensive I reckon I get at least twice the life from the Epson cartridges, hardly ever have to run a head clean and the colour has been great.  Mainly I buy the multipack with ASDA being best buy I have found with an occasional shop around for a top up of black and the more used colours.  For scalescenes I am using a 160g/m paper by mondi (think I got it from Staples) which it says is for digital colour laser systems but it works great on the inkjet - cheaper than colour print paper and robust to work with.



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you havs a point about the cheap inks, they do seem to run out faster
and i do have to clean the heads a fair bit.

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dooferdog wrote: Remember, to give the windows a more realistic 'scale' black/very dark grey, you can lightly dust the freshly printed acetates with talcum powder, leave at least an hour to dry and then brush off with a soft brush.............

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=3347&forum_id=14&highlight=windows+print+doofer

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Doug - these little "snippets" are cropping up everywhere.  Why not bring them all together under the "Hints and Tips" section with different headings - "Windows";  "Doors" etc. etc.  That way, I wouldn't have to try to remember where I saw them - my memory (along with other bits of me) isn't what it once was !!! :oops::oops::oops:



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You could always try looking in the Forum Index under Windows Peter.



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we keep telling him Bob and he keeps forgetting

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Make that "Very Easily", Bob :exclam :mutley:mutley

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Sorry, chaps, I must come to the defence of my fellow ex-pat.........:shock:

If you had to suffer like we do, forced to swill down Bordeaux red at 80p per litre, you'd confuse easily, too!:cheers



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