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 Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2009 02:46 pm
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I'm sure I've asked before but can't for the life of me find it !!

What's your experience with printers and scalescenes stuff ?

I know mine doesn't seem to get anything like a decent colour match (it's a Lexmark X75 all in one) so what should I look at (it would have to be reasonably priced).  Inkjet,  laser, multi-cartridge or colour mix cartridge and what paper do you all use ?



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I had some initial issues with the printing not producing the colour I had expected.

I use an Epson Stylus Photo RX510 loaded with Epson premium glossy photo paper which is what Scalescenes suggest.

To achieve the correct colours I had to go into the printer control panel and edit the settings. I could bore you with a blow-by-blow but unless you were running the same printer it would mean nothing.

My suggestion is to look at your own settings once you have the "Print" screen or menu up but before actually hitting the "Print" command and see what works. It may take a couple of attempts.

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Wow - that was quick Rick !!

Many thanks. :cheers



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I printed my platform edges on an Epson Crappy 60 (I guess that is what the C stands for!) on normal laser paper and was amazed how well it came out.  The printer was the first one we had in the shop as I have no colour printer at home - it must be 7 years old now.

Bet it would be much better with decent quality paper as Rick suggests

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I use an epsom DX3800 printer/scanner/copier with tesco own brand premium paper. I use alternitve cartrages (pro jet) to the epsom ones as they cost a blooming fortune or put another way 10 sets of cartrages works out the same price as 1 set of epsoms! Heres a link...

http://new.ukdvdr.co.uk/product.php?product=PJ-T611&title=Epson+T0611+Compatible+Cartridge+-+Black

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i have an epsom dx 740 useing pheonix inks and i get a very good print of
scalescenes stuff.

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I use an Epson CX3900 Inkjet with standard bright white copy paper & the colour seems to be a good match - I had to purchase some TX07 Aged Brown Brick coz I stuffed up the top row of bricks from the magazine page ( I had copied it before but only once). Granted ,the print was straight Properties, not quality Photo but once the warehouse/goods shed is matt varnished, no one will be able to tell the difference between what was shiny Hornby mag paper & my paper.

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The latest Epson printers are extremely good quality. Some have been mentioned above. We have a brand new Stylus Photo TX700W in addition to the older RX510.

I could use the new printer for my Scalescenes but as the old one is hard wired to my computer and the new one requires me to walk into the next room with a memory stick ..... :roll:

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Extract from another forum by Trevor:
If you look at John Wiffens 'Tips & tricks' you will see that he suggests applying a couple of coats of Artists matt spray varnish over the print-out before they are fixed down onto the card. This way the colours are fixed and any excess glue will simply wipe off with a damp cloth.

While I could not find that specific tip, only the one mentioning spraying after the kit is built, it is perhaps a good idea.

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I normaly spray mine after building to seal the cut edges. ;-)

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Thanks for all the info - hints and tips guys,  particularly concerning the inks and paper.  It seems Epson might br the way to look.  :cheers:cheers

Nowadays,  printers are remarkably cheap so buying a new one would probably only be slightly more expensive than changing the colour ink cartridge on my Lexmark !!

I'll also remember the tip from Owen (I think it was) given ages ago about leaving the printer switched on all the time to stop the colour cartridges drying out. :roll::roll:



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That won't happen with an Epson. You don't need to waste power on stand-by just to keep the ink flowing!

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Has anybody actually looked at the cost of printing the scalescenes projects as some of them require quite a few pages of full colour printing and with the price of some print cartidges this could be quite a significant cost and perheps not taken into account when you are looking into the price of the model overall

I know you can buy the ink cartridges cheaper but sometimes people will only buy the manufacturer ones only as they think the other ones are perhaps not as good plus the printer manufacturers always try and tell people to only use thiers.

Im sure somewhere there is a printer reveiw site that could tell you arough cost of a full colour printed page cost.  

cheers Brian

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You have a point there Brian.

I used to print my own photos on both my main printer and also a small HP desk-top one that came with one of the cameras I bought.  I then found out that it's much cheaper (other then for the odd print) to download them onto a disc and take them along to a camera shop.  The prints are much better (and dirt cheap) - I've found with the desk-top jobs, the inks fade pretty quickly and replacement cartridges for the small HP printer are around 30 euros each !!!

Maybe someone has costed the Scalescene printing costs.  :roll::roll::roll::roll:  Maybe even, Scalescenes have shares in a cartridge manufacturer :hmm



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i never actually costed the job as such , but my set of scalescenes

terraced houses came out about £15 =£10 for inks +£2 paper +£3 for card
we don`t have cornflakes!!!

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Would that cost for inks be just for the Scalescenes job or is there ink left for another day? It seems an extremely high cost for just one job.

A full set of six Epson cartridges for my printer is about $120 or £60 but they will last for months even if I am printing out full glossy images on heavyweight paper.

I ran off eight sheets of Scalescenes station signs and the ink monitor hasn't even blinked.

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The thing to remember is that the kits from Scalescenes are not available as already built units so if you want a specific building, then you have to print it out

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Exactly. I only wanted a few of the signs but there were perhaps a hundred on the sheet. But I do have the rest of the sheets in case they become useful in future.

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I have had a little look around on the web and i think a good guide is about 30-40p a page colour printing average stuff

So depending how many pages you print you have to add and ink costs 30-40p plus of course your paper costs together to give you a good idea of the costs plus cock ups

cheers Brian

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That would probably run out at about 60p a page max, and that's allowing for quite a few mistakes and colour correcting.



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