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 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2009 09:12 pm
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I have decided to start one of my many wills kits i have for the layout.

Now a lot of people shun Wills kits as they believe they are to hard to build so i have decided to do a blow by blow how  to try and extinquish this myth and show everyone even a mere mortal like me can make them and you do not have to be Perry or Wayne. This will take a few weeks to complete so you will need to keep watching for updates.

Tools can vary but usefull ones to have are a dam good knife a steel rule , files ,sandpaper, and sometimes people like to use a razor saw.and perhaps a fretsaw

Ther will be other tools i will use aswell during the build

Ok first the piccy on the box which is what i am intending to end up with i hope

sorry not that good a photo




The second photo shows the template plan with all the major dimentions on it you could cut them out and use them as templates but i am not bothering with that i will just measure things




The next photo is the details drawing which is self explanotory really




Heres apiccy of what comes in the box lots of standard wills building sheets and a pack of moulded parts plus some paper parts


Ok the first thing you have to do is start cutting up the parts to size that are on the template sheet i am starting with the  4 outside walls

1 side is embossed 1 is smooth so you mark out your sizes on the smooth side using a knife or sharp pencil i use a knife then you hold your steel rule in position and heavily score the line and keep scoring until you are happy its deep enough.

when you have scored it from the existing score mark you cut so you can see the score line position on the end of the embossed side then again you lay on your steel rule and score the embossed side making sure you cut below the embossing level.

To be fair you could cut all the way through the card if you want to.

Heres apiccy of me scoring the smooth side




after you have scored both sides properly its easy to break the piece off heres a piccy




Once you have cut your pieces too size rub the edges on sandpaper to square and smooth them




Then i have the 4 outside walls ready cut to the template size




Pop back for the next instalment

cheers Brian

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 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2009 10:10 pm
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At last somebody else is trying a Wills kit, I remember the fun I had building the Wills Station kit, really really looking forward to your progress with this Brian.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2009 10:19 pm
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Interesting building Brian,it wouldn't look out of place alongside Dukedogs' scratchbuilt buildings or on Jeffs new layout looking at the picture on the box.
Its got a bit of a rural Welsh feel to it if you know what I mean?
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 looking forward to seeing this develop.

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2009 10:25 pm
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Hmmm   ....    food for thought there :exclam

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 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2009 11:54 pm
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:hmm Now this I'm looking forward too. When you suggested a Wills kit,on my Metcalfe Thread I was going to ask you about it, Brian, so here's my answer without asking! Cool!

Cheers, mate!

 



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This is the first Wills kit I've ever "seen" close up Brian so it's going to be interesting watching the progress.

Maybe you should start another thread for "comments / questions" on the build so this thread can be left as a building reference thread without all the normal "distractions"



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 Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 07:50 am
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If anybody has differant of better methods of doing things or alternative tools to use please feel free to contribute towards this thread remember the author is not an expert.

As i said in the first post people seem to avoid Wills kits as there is a bit of a myth they are hard to build so i am hopeing by doing this memberes will see that even a idiot like me can build them and of course i cant recall anybody doing a how to on one before

cheers Brian

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Very interesting thread Brian, I shall be following this one.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 08:06 am
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You are right about Wills Craftmans Kits, they are a bit harder to build, more like sratchbuilding with plans, but the end result is brilliant, unfortunatley I built the station building and goods shed before we joined this forum, and didn't take any photo's of the build, but watching you build this will jog my memory.

Best of luck :thumbs

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It is of course only the Craftsman range like this - the others are far simpler!

Like Alan I would say that you are scratchbuilding this.  Apart from the fact they give you the plans and materials nothing is ready made or cut.  It does give you a chance to modify it slightly if you wish and those who have made them say Wills are very generous with the materials provided.

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I always wanted the post office - not that I would really have any room for it - so I'm enjoying this one, Brian.

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Ok its time for the next instalment

last time i had just cut the four outside walls the next job is to cut out the window and door recesses on the front and back walls.

From the measurements on the template drawing i marked the positions with my knife i have gone over them with pencil so you can see them better

note it is all marked from the smooth side so remember all is reverse from the way its shown on the drawing so this has to be remembered otherwise its swearing time 




Now this has a lot of internal corners so i use a small drill bit in these corners to make scrap removal easier you could of course just cut it with the knife




Here is the same piece with all the corner holes drilled by hand




I found it better to use a set square while cutting out these parts it was easier to hold position heres a piccy of a set square in case anybody does not know what i mean




for cutting out these i changed to a standard stanley knife to get more cutting pressure and i cut these all the way through from the smooth side only

heres a piccy of the cut outs finished




Next i cut the roof sections out to the dimentions given on the drawing




I then continued cutting all requred cut parts on the drawing and here is a piccy of all of them cut




here you can see that if you butt up 2 walls that dont exactly marry very well in their raw cut state




There are anumber of ways to resolve this but i am following the Wills instructions and i will mitre all the edges it tells you to do at a 45 degree+ angle

This is easily done on sandpaper like so




I then opened the detail pack which then begins to look more like a standard kit




I then deliberately checked the window frame and door cut outs looked right before going any further and cleaned a few bits up with a file and sandpaper and also broke the sharp front edges of the stone on all reccesses

One thing i did do extra that is not done on their example photo was to cut pointing into the window and door recesses they left it flat so i decided to cut in the pointing heres a piccy


Time to start glueing i just use standard liquid poly cement i like the revell ones with the syringe type nib

All the corners are mitred so glue each side and Wills provide the white angles to glue in for extra support




now continue and affix all 4 sides together then leave to dry




now im at the stage where i wonder what to do next should i base paint the walls or continue further opinions welcome on this

also im not totally sure how to get the white lime painting in the joints so advise welcome there

thats it till the next one

cheers Brian

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Is Dave down staying a couple of days with you, or are you on holiday, as that a lot of work you have carried out, but it's looking good, very good.

I would paint the walls first, and complete them before putting the doors and windows in, but I would also paint them first as well.

With you building this kit, I am sure a few more might buy one and have a go, the end result is something to be proud of.

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I have put this build in the Forum Index Brian as it should be very helpful to those who may be new to Wills kits.



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Good move Bob :thumbs:thumbs

Brian - I've heard that the Wills plastic is quite thick and also quite hard.  You said you used a standard Stanley knife and cut all the way through.  Was this hard to do ?  Also, was there any risk of cracking the styrene when you went right through ?

It really does look good at this stage. :cheers



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a good question that i did mean to mention that in the how to.

Wills plasticard is  thick it is about 1.5mm or1/16th of an inch

It is a softer plastic than most kit plastic that is brittle so that makes it a lot easier to cut

I used the standard stanley knife as that makes it easier to cut as you can apply more pressure i believe any normal person would not have a problem.

The most important thing is not to chop of your gonads

cheers Brian

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Just looking at your photographs again, and I notice that you have also cut groves into the plastic in and around the window and door apertures :thumbs

But the reason of this post is to say the photographs are really very good, all in focus, which helps with your explaining.

:cheers

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Intersting build Brian.
Reminds me of my own scratchbuild Post Office and shop for Pen Y Bont, which I supose it is really as most of the components and materials are the same!
Those Wills kits where you have to cut out the bits is virtually scratch building anyway.
They are a good introduction to scatch building as the methods, tools and materials are the same.
I'll keep an eye out for the finished job Brian!

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henryparrot wrote: The most important thing is not to chop of your gonads

You definitely don't want to do that!

Looking good already Brian and rapid progress.  I now know who had the last tin of Humbrol 64 paint that I needed :twisted:

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henryparrot wrote:................................................

The most important thing is not to chop of your gonads

cheers Brian

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I presume therefore,  that you'll need them later on in the build Brian :roll::roll::roll::roll:



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