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 Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2009 11:57 pm
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I have been keen to make a train loaded with tanks and equipment for my Kreigslok to pull for some time. The trouble is getting military models in 1/87 scale. I initially thought of getting Artitec tanks as they are very good models however it has been a lost cause trying to get them over here.  There were additional problems with these tanks too as the Tigers were transported with special thinner tracks and had the normal tracks and outside wheels stowed for transport.  To go this way would have necessitated the purchase of additional sets of tracks and wheels which were also difficult to source.  I eventually gave up on this idea and went with the Artmaster kit instead. 

The Artmaster kit consists of resin, plastic and etched parts.  It requires assembly and painting.  None of this is particularly hard however the instructions do leave a lot to be desired.  The first picture shows what you get in the box.  There are no other instructions on the back of that sheet.  The writing is all in German.  Fortunately I had a larger scale Tiger to hand to find where the bits for the tank go.  One thing that the potential assembled should know is how brittle the resin parts are.  Be very careful how you cut or remove these parts from the castings as they do not require much force at all to break. 



Although depicted with a wagon the kit does not come with one.  The type required for this kit is a 6-axle heavy duty flat car SSym Koeln, DRG, era II.  This is available from Maerklin under item number 4867 or alternatively Liliput also have a model of this wagon.  If you get the Maerklin one then be sure to get DC wheelsets if you are running a DC current system.  Most dealers will change them over for you free of charge.

The tank on the kit cover differs from the tank you can assemble from the included parts.  The engine flap at the back does not lift.

You will need airfix type glue as well as cyanoacrylate to assemble this kit.  I’d recommend painting most of this prior to assemble although for the camo, you will have to put most of the body and turret together first for continuity.  The accessories are best superglued to the wagon as they are likely to fall off otherwise.  This is the wagon with the accessories prior to the tank being added.


 
The kit contains almost all you need however a few additions were made to this model to improve it.  There was no towing wire despite the fact that the leads from either end were included.  You can make this yourself from thread painted gunmetal or thin wires.  Chains to fasten down the tank were added.  These are available from Herpa’s Minitanks range.  I will add decals too once I source them.  I also have some Preiser figures on the way that will add to it.



Other than that the kits is an easy build and looks pretty good once completed.  I’ll be buying few more of these to make up a larger train now that I have checked them out.  One difficulty you will encounter is that few places stock these.  I couldn’t find anyone who has them ready for purchase in Germany and after the six months saga of waiting for Artitect tanks I’m not in any hurry to go that path again. On Tracks was the only supplier I could find in the UK and they managed to get these for me relatively quickly.  For anyone who wishes to make up a German epoch II military train these are well worth considering.  I’ll certainly be getting more of these.




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Yes, Neil, a 9-12 wagon train would look very impresive.

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Yes Ron,  I have a couple more Tanks to put on flats but will not make up the full train till after my return from Scotland in September.  I have a few half track and self propelled guns to include too as well as the flak wagons.  Should llok good once done.



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Neil you've done a brilliant job of that. Yet another interesting load for your layout :thumbs

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Thanks Mike.  I still have the decals to put on but am negotiating with someone in Germany for some custom Eastern front ones.



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Nice one, Neil.  Something different. :thumbs



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Neill a great thread i am very impressed with your tiger tank carrier the tank looks very good. As you say the instructions look very basic but luckily you have a good knowledge of tank anatomy.

I have never seen a german military train before which makes your one more special i have seen allied british American ones in mags and at shows before.

As you say you intend to make a rake which will look great have you plans for other military veichiles in this rake or are they difficult to source aswell.

Do you know if in Germany modellers model many WW2 era trains as we are often told many German people seem to avoid the second world war subject and i wonder if they have after all this time come away from that attitude.

I did used to make a lot of tanks Tamiya sort of ones my Dad did make a few of the large Tamya ones years ago i still actualy have a dismembered one in my shed.

cheers Brian

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Hi Brian,

 

here's a half track I prepared earlier.



 

It is and it isn't popular in Germany.  There are a lot of models available but there don't seem to be many overtly military layouts.

 

I'd like to do a modern UK one but am having difficulty sourcing modern UK vehicles.  There was a really good article in Model Rail express about UK miltary trains some time ago.  Apparently a Warrior is the largest item that can travel in the UK on train because of the loading gauge.

 

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Lovely (if that's the right word :roll::roll:) model Neil with some excellent detail :thumbs

Regarding the popularity of WW2 stuff in Germany - as time passes, it's becoming much more out in the open.  In fact,  many would say that the "Third Reich" is generating quite a high level of tourism in certain areas which is being fuelled by the younger generation who fail to see why they should continue to carry the guilt associated with that period 2 generations later.

Indeed, I visited Berlin only 4 months after the wall came down and again 3 years ago.  The difference was absolutely amazing.  The site of the Reich Chancellory was a building site - one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in Europe - whereas previously, it had been in "no-man's land" just west of the wall.   The bunker site,  which had not been pinpointed lest it bacame some kind of macabre shrine in 1989 and also in that no-man's land,  was to become a car park although still not clearly defined without guessing from pre-war maps.   Many of the remaining buildings and sites thereof had historical plaques stating that "Here stood..........." and, rather oddly,  Goering's Air Ministry building - to my mind, a particularly ugly edifice,  is virtually as it was and used as offices.

However,  to this day, the swastika is a banned symbol in Germany and it's strange to visit (for example) the Nuremburg Toy Fair and see very large model aircraft or ships with bits of paper temporarily pasted over the offending symbol. 



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Have you looked at this site ?  Seems to have a fair range of different WW2 stuff.

http://www.fidelismodels.com/SFNT.html

Sorry - you'll have to copy / paste - can't make the link work !! :oops::oops::oops::oops:



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the link works fine Peter,not a bad little site.

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Nice job Neil ,look forward to seeing a whole rake of those with the loco.:doublethumb



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Petermac wrote: Neil

Have you looked at this site ?  Seems to have a fair range of different WW2 stuff.

http://www.fidelismodels.com/SFNT.html

Sorry - you'll have to copy / paste - can't make the link work !! :oops::oops::oops::oops:


Hi Peter, no I hadn't seen that one.  The link works fine.

Some good stuff on there.   I'll have a bigger look later.

 

cheers

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