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 Posted: Sat Jun 27th, 2009 09:53 pm
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Nope, he'd end up in Wendy's studio - and that would be the last we'd see of him :exclam . . . and sadly, I can't afford a back scene :mutley 



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Rick I try to get as many things in my favour as I can, starting with good reference photos. Also a well-primed board and good but inexpensive 'sharp' brushes.

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A building..

Just some blocks of brick colour. For the yellower brick some chestnut and yellow were mixed into red oxide, with some milky blue to tame it down a bit.
 Paint is deliberately patchy.
 I prayed for a steady hand then put in the smoke stack. It bent a bit. Had to straighten it out later....







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 Pipes and things added with the fine rigger brush. Window on the right was just a dark square, done with a sharp brush. Framing painted around it with the rigger. A few dark accents here and there, referring to a photo as I went.

To push the building back I brushed sky colour over it



and instantly gave it a rub with a finger



The various brick colours were carefully brushed over the smokestack and smoothed with a finger. I had to build the chimney out to the left to straighten it. Sky colour was brushed across it and over its edges once the brickwork was dry.


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The tree was then put in with brownish paint mixed up with any old brick colour plus the darker Harbour Blue + a little black I think. Branches added with the rigger brush and some dark under it.





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Background buildings had a few vague details added to them after I painted more blues over them. Other buildings way back were hinted at with a jumble of small brushstrokes

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Painted a rear-view of a crossing sign then back to the layout






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I think some of the grey patches of bare ground on the layout would go well on the backscene.

If anyone has any questions about any part I'll do my best to answer them. And all suggestions are welcome!

Mike

P.S. the top of the chimney was tidied up with more blue and pink around its edges and some sky colour brushed over it as before in the buildings.

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If I had not seen it develop I would not know where the layout finished and the backscene began. :thud

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Two words for you mate. Bloody Marvellous!!!

cheers,John.B.:doublethumb

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Got to agree with that. :doublethumb

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I live with an artist and I never stop being amazed at what they do and how they do it.  They pass it off as nothing much; they have talent to start with, but to produce stuff like this is the result of years of bl     dy hard work as well.  There are no words to properly express how much we mere mortals are in awe and how much pleasure we derive from your work.  :thumbs



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they said it all

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Many thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate it.

 Max you're right. It has been a lot of work over too many years and I still have much to learn.

If I didn't have the best wife in the world I'd be sitting behind a desk in an office.

Hmm  I think that previous sentence summed it up pretty well.


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Everything good that can be said about your painting and modelling has already been written, many times, and I suspect not just on here, and I agree with all of it, but can I just point out one thing that stands out for me, and that's the shadow from the tree/twig it goes about 3/4 up the building on the backdrop, this makes the backdrop look to close, can you move the tree forward, or move the light that makes the shadow, sorry it just caught my eye.

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Looked back at the shot you spoke about, Alan and I would have thought that the bare tree was there long before the backscene was done.

It must be said that it is now a distraction and serves no purpose in the general scene, therefore I would remove it totally.

Now to a question for the talented one   ...   the background blends in very well with the model, although I remain slightly troubled by the slight "hump" in the road as it goes onto the back. My question is how would you treat the various buildings to give a variation in depth. At the moment the scene consists of coloured buildings in the "foreground" of the backscene and all the rest is a blueish colour, giving excellent depth. I'm not criticising this effect, indeed the opposite would be the case if I dared to comment, but is there a technique which gradually recedes things into the distance?? Also would this make the scene feel deeper?

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Nearly all my trees are 'plug and play' :lol: so any that cast awkward shadows are easily removed. If I take a shot with side lighting they will quite likely reappear so I can make use of the cast shadows falling in the right places. It doesn't bother me that doing so would change the scene to a fair degree because I'm more concerned with getting the right effect.

 Jeff  your point about the background buildings is an interesting one. It gets us into an art vs reality thing. Looking at the scene again this morning I agree totally with what you say - they go from colourful-ish to blue very suddenly. [although there's a brick building or two back there that received less blue than the one with the chimney - might have to look into that.]
 Perhaps the blueness is evidence of a pretty long road past the rise in the road and a fair bit of territory between the close buildings and the city beyond.
 I toyed with the idea of having a slightly more prominent building at the road's end which would have given an opportunity for it all to recede more gently but I prefer the accidental brown trees.
 Certainly if I had added more warm colours to some of the city buildings at the end of the road they would have appeared closer than bluer ones beyond. A more careful and gradual control of the blue would definitely create a gentler regression from near to far.

 From an art viewpoint I decided to mass them all together pretty much because I didn't want to draw attention to them as individuals. I find the overall shape interesting as a unit and suggestive of a city without defining it too clearly. Those to the immediate right of the pale building have a slightly more gradual change in them, but I was drawn to the idea of a distant city at the end of a road and hoped it would convey some sort of mood and atmosphere. Smog, snow in the air etc - all great stuff to play with.
If the scene had been one of rolling hills, for example, I would be taking fewer liberties with it, as with this one:


 It's an interesting point you make and something that I [for one :lol:] enjoy discussing.

 I must take some photos of it in place but without the floodlights. It might look quite gloomy. I don't know.

 Mike

 

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one more shot I took last evening

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I like both of them - the rolling hills & the city scape.

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