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 Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 08:09 am
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Wow :thud, thats some fiddle yard and the track work looks really excellent, this is going to be one to watch.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 11:01 am
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Hi

More pics? Ok, This shows the current length of the fiddle yard at 52 feet. the pictures you saw before show just 3 boards, there are 12 in total (14 for New Street)




This is the plan. Its effectivly 2 pairs of 9 road yards.



The plank is just a test bed but its good for photos and as a test/programming track. Heres a pic or 2





As the plank is just a test bed I took lots of short cuts I wont take on the layout proper. Following are a few images of scenic work so far.







Theres more on my website but it does need updating http://www.p4newstreet.com

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 Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 11:17 am
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Just to prove I dont go large on everything I had to do a little shed for platform 1. For a bit of fun I had a go at a 4mm scale padlock to see if I could. I was pretty pleased with the result actually!



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 Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 11:19 am
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Very Very nice Jim

Are you sure that the first photo on the "PLANK" isn't real

From looking at the photo taken from the bedroom window, you start to get a feeling for the size of the layout, huge, it looks more like a US style except that you are building it on boards to display not in a basement.

I also like you weathering, not just on the stock, but also on the walls, and ground, but the steps and platform at the top of the covered ladder is brilliant.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 11:34 am
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I should think you were pleased Jim as it's a really fine additional detail.



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Gwiwer wrote: Jim that is looking like some seriously good work there, right down to the weathering on the 108. Some off the shelf bits in there as well by the looks - is that a Peco platform edge I spy? It all goes to show that along with a lot of quality workmanship that not everything has to be done from scratch.
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It is indeed - adapted a little to suit.  Firstly I made a couple of little jigs to scribe lines into them (the prototype has 3 sections not 1)




Then to give a concretey texture I used games Workshop rough cote. oversprayed with a light tan and a very light spray of an even lighter colour to give variation. 



I find the roughcote is a little heavy, texture wise so I now use Plasticote Suede textured paint as my base coat. Need weathering yet.  All in there is about 40 meters of platform to do!

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Lovely work, Jim. Quite inspirational.

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Well guys the Forum has raised the bar again. It don't get better than this!:eek:

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Les are you saying we have a new bench mark ???
oh well here we go again....

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Thats a fair sized project you have there Jim and the sharing the fiddle yard between 3 of you was a very sensible one.

So how long so far have you spent building your own new street section and have you a general progress chart with a aimed for timescale or is it a case of done when its done?

Did you scratchbuild the ohle equipment or have you adapted ones from a european manufacturer.

Obviously with the size of the project you only work on sections at a time do you have a large shed you work on them or something.

I presume you dont have a fixed home layout then

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Jim,
      I don't know about raising the bar,I think this is going to become a legendary layout...right up there with Pendon.
      Awesome,awesome modelling!!! And ambitious??? Let's not go there!
      It has to be a real labour of love for you,and thank you very much for sharing it with the rest of us.That P4 track looks the business too!!
      Looking forward to viewing it "in the flesh"on the exhibition circuit.Unbelievable!!!.......I'm running out of words to express how great it all is...and this from a dyed-in-the-wool steam fan!!!
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Cheers,John.B.

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i have watched this on another forum and i am always amazed at the standard of work you come up with. welcome to the forum and get ready for all my questions.

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Thanks again people.

Brian I laid the first track on New Street in May 2007 but I drew the first track plan in October 2001! All of the OLE is scratchbuilt.

I tend to work on parts, getting them nearly finished before they go onto the layout. The beauty of a large project is there is so much to do you can hop arround between projects that all work towards the same goal. Such as this :-



An ex Corgi toy lorry with a base toys chassis and scratchbuilt box body. Or these :-

which started out as Corgi trackside transit vans, The orange one being pretty much out of the box, except for new wheels and weathering, the white one being just the cab with a new scratchbuilt chassis and box body.

This old picture picture shows the whole station area from tunnel mouth to tunnel mouth.



The 7 coach HST gives a sense of scale. What you see here is 22 feet long and makes up about a 3rd of the scenic section.

Matt, ask away, I'll try and help where I can.

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Oh my gosh, a small layout indeed and what makes it unique in my eyes is being in P4 - I know hand made points in P4 is no more difficult than mine in 00 but the amount of rolling stock especially locos to fill the beast !!! I mean the corner hobby shop doesn't normally have boxes of P4 stock - well at least you are young Jim, perhaps if I started that 40 years ago, I too could have a huge layout.
This is certainly going to be another layout to keep across.

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Is there a time scale you have set yourself for this one, Jim :question:question

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Jim, is your catenary scratch made or is it available in kit form?

 

I'd like to do a section of ECML but availability of accurate catenary always put me off.

 

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This is some layout we are seeing here. Where is it stored and how long before your first outing with it?

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Hi Jeff (and Phil)

I dont really have a timescale as it will be done when its done! My interest is in making things so if it takes forever and never gets finished I'll be quite happy. Having said that I'd like to be out on the road with it before 2030.

Neil

The OLE is entirely scratchbuilt except for the insulators that are sommerfeldt ones. They are the biggest 'fault' im my mind but Colin Craig has produced some scale cast ones for me. A picture of a basic mast using them is below



One of the wall mounted masts from the plank. The wall brackets took nearly as long to make as the rest of the mast!



Finally the portal in bare brass. The main span is made from 1mm L section brass and fine wire bent into a zig-zag around a simple former.




I have written construction of OLE up a few times in magazines. MRJ issue 172 and Model Rail issue 111.

Hope that helps

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Sol wrote: I know hand made points in P4 is no more difficult than mine in 00
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Actually I'd be inclined to disagree.  I believe in certain circumstances handbuilt OO is actually much harder.  The geometry is quite a bit different and you have less space to fit stuff in.  If you think of OO as an excercise in track design, p4 is (especially when copying a real place where the design is done for you) more an excercise in duplication.

In the picture below I found fitting everything in in P4 to be a real struggle.  I wonder if it would be do-able at all in OO?



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Jim, that is quite a project you are working there. I'm Impressed!

Could you tell me a little bit more about how you made that padlock on the little shed? I love that kind of detail, but my fingers always seem to hide what I'm working on! :mutley

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