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 Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 08:47 pm
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I have decided to start a seperate thread for the narrow gauge section of my layout so if anybody needs to look at it for referance they do not need to wade through my main layout thread.

At present there is no official name for the narrow gauge railway i am creating.

The idea of it is dual function its main function what it was built for historically was to service a nearby cornish slate mine moving men equipment and their slate products around.

In later years it was decided that the narrow gauge railway would be a good tourist attraction so they began to run a passenger service on the line for tourists.

The line is a single line and the turnaround is achieved at each end with a loop turnaround the actual length of run is about 36ft  a lot of it has elevated sections with inclines.

Steam engines will be the main power source but there could be a small diesal shunter (Green).

The gauge of the engines is 4mm or 00 but as it is narrow gauge the track is the equvilant to N gauge width the scale is called 009 which really means 00 trains on 9mm track,

There is another thread in this section i have posted pictures of the track.

It is all flexitrack and left or right or Y points there are all electrofrog standard pl 10 peco motors fit beneath them fine.

Minimum radius is 9 inches other than that it is no differant than laying 00 flexitrack

It will be dcc i have droppers fixed to every section of track and points which will be connected to the dcc bus.

There are at present no British outline RTR locos or rolling stock everthing is kit based fitting on a RTR chassis there are lots of kits available and also a great deal of rolling stock kits.

I have now completed all the basework and all track is laid with droppers solder on track in place so heres a few piccys

In this first piccy it shows the mine area at present very bare the mine building is only part constructed just to give me the sizes to lay trackwork the mine area has one of the return loops but within it there a 2 more sets of points which go into the mine area with sidings with wagon turntables at the front of the elevated mine section you can see part of the loop of the track that seems to be hanging in mid air this is not a cock up this area will have a trestle type wood support bridge under the track



The second photo shows the pointwork at the start of the mine section



The next photo shows the start of the single elevated line which from this point starts to go downhill i have used some woodland scenics incline set stuff i had here to do this



The next further on photo shows a bridge section i put in at present im not sure how i will develop this



This piccy follows the last showing how the line winds its way down to the small town and station area note another bridge halfway this is a under road bridge



This piccy shows the end of the incline but it is still elevated slightly although running flat a small station will be here in front of the little town



This piccy shows the furthest away track the narrow gauge one going across a which may be a long bridge



 

The next piccy shows how the narrow gauge runs into the lower shed section



This piccy is taken from the far end loop looking back tords where the last photo is



 

At the end of this loop i have a set of points leading to 2 sidings which are right next to where i sit in my control postion



Well thats my opening post i will add more as things develope

cheers Brian

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 Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 12:54 am
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Going to be a magnificent run once the scenery is done. Great start Brian.
What about a run around loop somewhere to allow trains to pass each other?
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 Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 06:29 am
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This looks really interesting Brian.

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 Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 05:59 pm
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Looking very good indeed,HP.The mine area is looking the business already. I agree with Marty though,a passing loop about half way along for trains to pass....then it's perfect!!

Cheers,John.B.

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the plot thickens, i can see why you need this part automated:lol: with all thet 00 track you won't have the time to operate the two together. have you looked at the heathcote electronics website?

http://www.heathcote-electronics.co.uk/

theydo some good modules. if you remember i automated my layout with heathcote units. and they do AUTOMATIC REVERSE LOOPS modules, passing loop modules and Controlled Storage Sidings.  which would sort your automated part of the layout. the website could be a bit easier to read and understand.

 

 

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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 02:35 pm
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I will consider the passing loop that was something i did think about when i was doing it i do have places i could fit it Ok

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I have looked on the heathcote site last week that is one of the things i can consider there are a number of differant things to use but i am not rushed to sort it as i have many other things to do as well

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I have begun basework on the cornish slate mine area i have started on the slateface backdrop which the mine building will go into the mine entrance heres a piccy of the base work



The slate actually looks more brown and grey my crappy photo skills make it look yellowy.

The henryparrot secret to the rockwork is order 1.5 tonnes of hedgestone slate for a job when it arrives pick some suitable bits out and take home and place in position.

Nothing like a bit of cheating i can really say its just like the real thing:lol::lol:

cheers Brian

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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 09:08 pm
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That looks great, Brian - but it will be a bit heavy to take to exhibitions!  :cool wink

Seriously, the arrangement gives you a really convincing mine entrance.



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don`t forget to prop that overhang Hp, the lads wont like it if it slips!!

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wow this is spectacular already!
Will you be showing the strata in the slate? If so - how?
I don't know if you mentioned this elsewhere, but is the mine building a European kit?

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Sorry i am a bit slow in replying i did read it a few days ago but forgot to reply then

the Kit is a Faller one and could really be used on many types of layout really it would happily fit on an american European or british outline here is a picture of the box and you can see the code number im sure you can source it in Australia .

The strata in the slate is as it is blown out of the Ground Mike to use real rock as i am i could not show strata as it normally lays because the fault lines run top to bottom as i have them to show strata i would have to slice the rock which would be a major task.



 

I have bought 2 more points today with the view of adding the passing loop as suggested

cheers Brian

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Cheers Brian :thumbs

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HEYYYYYY..........love the real rock!!! Now it's really looking like a mining works.Its coming along very nicely HP.
  I notice you're laying your track on the same green underlay stuff I've used on Perranporth.Its a doddle for pinning track down,and lovely quiet running too!!

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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the other advantage is its as cheap as chips its the best solution to underlay i have found so far its better than the bought underlay by far to be fair i have never used sundaela board let alone ever seen any so i cant say if its better than that.

The real rock is my cheats way of doing things are you sure you dont want some genuine Perranporth ballast John for perranpoth im sure i could get some of the old trakcways

cheers Brian

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Today it was time to start on some backscene terraforming so first of all i used some galvanised wire for a subframe for the hillside





 

Next it was time to think about covering this yes you can use paper mache and also i could go and buy many rolls of the plaster of paris modelling cloth but i thought i would look at something to use i have in abundance Pond liner underlay.

So what i did was cut some lengths i then got some old plaster adhesive i have i mixed up a watery mix in a bucket i laid on the underlay and with a brush splogged it all over the cloth now its holds fine in position but it does take a while to go off so i wont know untill tommorow if its solid enough if it is not i will add something else or not here are a few pics of it







cheers brian

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Looking good to me Brian

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What happened to the rock on a stick, Brian?  I was looking forward to seeing that incorporated.



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The rock will return but without the stick Max it will have a couple of fakey type support beams thou.

Cheers Brian

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a little more work this afternoon i have affixed all the rockwork the pond underlay i used last week is fine and i also sprayed it a few times with a watery pva mix to give it a more stable fitting it has worked out well i have added more rock plus more wire framing for hilly bits

Max will be pleased the overhanging rock has returned and is fixed with support.

heres some piccys

The first one shows the actual mine area with affixed rocks and the wire framing in place ready to be covered.



The second photo is to the left of the mine the hillside comes down in height here and has been wire framed



This one shows the overhanging rock i will think of a cockermammy story to cover this



this one shows along from the overhanging rock all now dry ready for the next stage



This one shows the end of the hillside where a road tunnel will be formed you can see the hole



This is the opposite corner to the mine with the small village town i have added more height at the back i intend to make scalescenes half relief terrace houses on this with plasticard backings



that will do for today

cheers Brian

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Looking good Brian

The new way of forming the rock for the backdrop has worked really really well, and will help to put everything in scale when you have loco's etc passing it all. the mine area is also looking good, that Faller kit looks as if it makes up into a good model, and by using real stone behind will only help the overall appearance of it all :thumbs

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