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 Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 08:01 pm
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A small package arrived today - something very old but refurbished...to give us some light relief I have only shown a little bit of it...this gives a clue to my next project - something that I have been planning to do for a long time..can anyone guess (the title gives away the project but not the item)?




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Is it a triang X04 motor???

cheers,John.B:???:

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By golly, spot on.....




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Blimey......It was !!!!

I thought it looked familiar!

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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So.Darren......what are you going to use it for,then???

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georgejacksongenius wrote: So.Darren......what are you going to use it for,then???

Cheers,John.B.:???:

Surprisingly not a Highland Railway locomotive....but a bargain picked up at the EPSOM & EWELL show...all whitemetal, just an X04 motor was required (just purchased)...lets see how this goes!!









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Can you give us a link for where such a motor can be purchased please, Darren. :thumbs

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         Are you going to make it as on the box cover(LNER),or are you going for the GNR version?

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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Gwent Rail wrote: Can you give us a link for where such a motor can be purchased please, Darren. :thumbs

Jeff, purchased from Ebay :

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/6220-Model-Railways

 



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georgejacksongenius wrote: Darren,
         Are you going to make it as on the box cover(LNER),or are you going for the GNR version?

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

I am definitely toying with doing the GNR but I also do have a number of LNER loco's in the stable...



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this is going to be a very interesting build i will be following your build extremely closely as i have a DJH standrd 4MT i bought years ago of ebay at a snip but i have not touched it yet.

The wagons i presume gave you the confidence to have a crack at a loco kit?

cheers Brian

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Is that kit all white-metal, or has it got some etched brass as well.

I will be following this as well, because I built a white-metal kit, a few years ago, without a lot of luck,it looked okay and ran fine, but wasn't really first class, I also have a Malcolm Mitchell kit, that I brought from him at his house !, what a experience that was. but that is all etched brass I think.

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Alan, Brian

this is pretty much all whitemetal (its an old kit) and yes the wagons have given me confidence plus have been reading Iain Rices book on whitemetal kits.

I will give it my best shot but this will be a slow build methinks...hopefully that will start me onto brass etch locomotives..



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Looking forward to the trials and tribulations of whitemetal kit building Darren.
You never know you might encourage others to have a go... even me!
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A nice GNR example - scary how well built it is - i have been dry-fitting some of the components this evening and will need a lot of filling/fettling....

http://www.vectis.co.uk/auctiondet.php?auction_id=244&item_id=312666&retPage=130506#



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Details of the contents of the box (plus the motor that was bought separately)



 



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Before I started with a vengeance, I was concerned about the fact that the mainframes and the tender do not have brass bearings (as per a brass etch) so I tracked down my closest supplier of brass bearings: http://ttmodels.co.uk

They normally do mail order but as I was just down the road I agreed with one of the proprietors (Malcolm Brenchley) that I would pop down. How glad I was that I did!

He was a very very helpful chap! Albeit he does 3mm (TT) and I am working 00 he was able to assist immensely.

My first question - shouldnt the mainframes have brass bearings? - not necessary as this is only required for brass etchings due to the slenderness of the mainframes walls (as opposed to whitemetal) as well as the fact that whitemetal is more than suitable as a bearing surface.

My second question - shouldnt the tender have brass bearings? - similar answer as to the mainframes but brass bearings have been known to been installed for adjustment purposes.

My final question - did he have any advice on how to do the wheel quartering? - he clarified that the Romford wheels preclude the need to worry about that given the square bearing surface behind (I had been losing sleep about lining up the spokes you see.....)


He also showed me examples of 3mm locomotives etched kits (something I am very interested in (see my previous posting some days ago on Ballyconnel Road) there was a cracking Fowler 4F (a favourite of mine) as well as a planned RTR (yes RTR!) Warship that he has been developing (resin body) and how good it looks!!.

All in all a great visit and i not only did I gain a great insight into 3mm , but came away well armed with advice and not to mention a load of goodies for my stock box (including a lovely 5 pole motor and gearbox set (future project TBD!!))

(PS - oh and still bought some bearings for future projects!!)


 

 

 



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now that is what i would call a"good result "..

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Darren you asked some very sensible questions there.

Whats first loco or tender?

cheers Brian

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Brian, for me its Loco first - apparently it recommended for ride height puposes - its easier to adjust the ride height of your tender to suit the loco rather than trying to adjust the loco to suit the tender (if that makes sense)



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