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 Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 10:37 pm
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To start this new thread, I am going to be weathering a Class 37.

I have read a lot of other people's way of weathering, and everything that I do is only by way of reading and then trying something out as well.



First I aways paint in the heavy rust area's using Railmatch ( 405 Dark rust ) not thinned, this looks a little heavy to start with but as the whole body will be airbrushed with a dirty coat of black and grim mixed, which will give the whole loco a faded look and the heavy rust will be toned down, the images below show a small amount of the rust onto one part of the body.







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 Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 11:07 pm
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That's very convincing, Alan.  Do you decide where to put the marks by looking a photographs, or is it an instinctive thing?



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I was thinking what a lovely loco you have, even thou its a blue diesel :mutley. then i went further down and saw what you had done thus far :shock:. Blimey i be too scared to touch it.

Anyhow how do you work out where and how much rust to put on. You say you are going to use a airbrush for the rest, i take it then that a airbrush would give you more of a better finish than hand painted?. If you did it by hand how much harder is it?

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As you say really, I look at photo's to see where most of the rust etc is, and also add some of my own.

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Don't be scared, it's only a Blue Diesel :lol:

I have always used a brush for the finer detailing :roll:, and then cover it all afterwards with a Airbrush, which does give a finer coating, and it does dry quicker, but it can all be done using a brush, try it on a old wagon first, to learn on, wagons can be easy to weather, because if you do mess it up, you can just cover the problem up with more dirt.

Below are all the materials that I will use on this loco, before I use the Airbrush.


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This is going to be like reading a good novel for me Alan :thumbs:thumbs

"Tensocrom" ?  Never heard of that - it looks Italian :roll::roll:  Is it one of those "Wargaming" organisations ?

Also, interested in seeing where you use the pastels and / of Tamiya Weatherline sticks. :roll::roll:



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The Tensocrom paint is from an article in one of the model mags, I will try and dig it out and also find the suppler, it is really different from any other paint that I have ever used, but it's the best for showing fuel, diesel that I have ever seen

As for the Tamiya sticks look at the wagon thread as I have used them on the wagon

 

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:cheers:cheers:cheers

Is the Tensocrom enamel or acrylic ?



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Acrylic :thumbs

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Petermac wrote: :cheers:cheers:cheers

Is the Tensocrom enamel or acrylic ?

I think the writing on the top of the bottle "Colori Acrilici" is a clue, Peter. :lol::lol::thumbs:thumbs

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I didn't want to point that out Jeff :thumbs

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Gwent Rail wrote: Petermac wrote: :cheers:cheers:cheers

Is the Tensocrom enamel or acrylic ?

I think the writing on the top of the bottle "Colori Acrilici" is a clue, Peter. :lol::lol::thumbs:thumbs

:oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:  Don't understand Italian !!!



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      Even those first two weathered shots make an amazing difference.The jump from plastic bodied pristine RTR into something that now LOOKS like it's really metal!
       Watching like a hawk,mate!!!

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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Thanks John

I will finish the first coat of rust tomorrow evening, then it's on to the highlighting !!

Not Hair Peter :roll:

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Alan wrote: Thanks John

I will finish the first coat of rust tomorrow evening, then it's on to the highlighting !!

Not Hair Peter :roll:

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:  Don't know much about hair Alan - it's years since I grew through mine :roll::roll::roll:



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great start alan

phil

the airbrush is a great tool for all types of painting. i am a non artistic type but i find the airbrush easier to use. the best thing about the airbrush is the fine mist it discharges. you go over the model once and a very finejust visible layer is added, all you do is repeat this until the effect you want is created. go onto youtube and you can find some great work done with the airbrush.

 

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Using brushes first then switching to an air brush? I don't believe I have seen it done that way before. So I will be watching you closely Alan.

I don't have an air brush. I did watch a video once on how to use and clean one. Seemed like a lot of work, plus a lot of fumes. Do you spray and clean up in the house?

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The reason that I am doing it brush first is really to show that it can be done without the use of a Airbrush, so that anybody can weather their stock if they wish.

The reason why I paint first, is because I like to make the rust look as if it is under the daily dirt, so by painting the heavy rust onto the body first, this will be dulled down after the body and underframe get a light coating of a dirt colour which I will explain when I get to that stage.


All Airbrushing is done in the shed into a cardboard box, but with the door open, I have asked the question on here about spray booths, and will one day, when I have nothing else to do, build one :hmm

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Work on the weathering of the class 37, slowed down last week, due to couple of reasons, one work, and the other was the fact that I was going to buy to some extra detailing at the Bristol show, so after yesterday, I have now brought some air horns,vac & steam pipes, and also some air brale pipes as well, I decided that all the grills are good enough and I don't want to change the windows, the grills will be rather dirty after the weathering so do not need to be changed, so I can carry on ;-)

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Update on the weathering of the Class 37

Tonight I have given the complete body a wash of Tamiya Flat Black 20% and 80% acrylic thinner, this has been applied with a brush, the roof has been given a stronger wash around 50/50, this has been done to dull down the roof more than the body, I painted this always on the roof from the front towards the back. and the same from the other end, for the sides I always painted up and down, with the stronger colour at the bottom, reason for this is that the rain will wash the dirt down.

After this dryied I then started work on the exhaust on the roof, by adding coats of Tensocrom Smoke, building up the layers, the body is now ready for a more detailed approach of high lighting different area's, using different colours and texture's, Pastels are next , and then a process of rubbing/buffing back some of the panels.

The roof will need a lot more work, pastels first to add some grim, and then some heavier wash's of a light brown colour, which will also be washed over the bogies and lower underframe.









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Now that is one dirty beast - love it :Happy

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