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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 09:40 am
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Just like to add the new gallery function is so easy to use. Just click the upload box above the posting text box, click browse, select your pic, click upload then just click on it and it appears in your post. Simples! Thanks Robert for adding this function to the forum. :thumbs

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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 09:52 am
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Going gangbusters, Dave.  Are you going to build in lights?  If so, what will your suggested voltage be 12v DC?



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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 10:30 am
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Yep. The rated voltage will be 12v dc although the resistors that I have ordered will allow the leds to opperate up to 14v to allow for differences in supply voltage. The lighting effect will be the same as potters lane. Incidently on potters lane the lights use 1k resistors so can run on 12v but the design of the light enclosures is so good I actualy run them on 5v!

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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 12:17 pm
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Sounds like you've got it well and truly sorted, Dave.



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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 01:24 pm
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Some of you will remember the chip shop that I built at christmas (still needs finishing!!) for the main layout....



 


You will remember how I lit the shop signs using light from the shop?? Well take a look at the next part of the station build...




Great thing about the foamex board is it can be carved like wood using a craft knife. The idea here is that the led lighting the retail unit will also light the shop sign whilst the led lighting the open entrance way will also bounce some light back into the end section of the main building. Here's a basic demo using the work light...




The copper wiring has been fitted same as the main building....




This shows the three layers of 3mm board making up the roof. The end and front walls have also been cut with the end having the trade mark open door! The two ends of the copper wire sticking down will have the red and black wires attached to link the building to the layouts lighting supply...




The extra 'bay' can be seen here increesing the length of the building from three bays on potters lane to the four found on the origanal. (the bays are the bits between the sticking out roof supports)




Here the extension roof has been fitted and the wiring linked to the main building...




At the other end the links have been fitted that link the front row of lights to the rear and also the link over to the toilet light...




And finaly a slightly blured pic showing all the roof now in place....




Next comes the enjoyable bit turning the shell into a building more later....... ;-)

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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 01:48 pm
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That foamex board is certainly the bees knees for your type of construction Dave.
At 3mm that's 9 inches in 4mm scale so does anyone else on the forum use it, and if so, for what?



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Yes, the signs for our shop are made out of it :roll:

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I don't think I have ever seen it before. Certainly not here in Spain although I will make enquiries.



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You can buy it in packs at places like the range that sell craft stuff usually the sizes they sell are A4 A3 sheet sizes in packs usually white in colour but there is a black which for some reason is more expensive.

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You can only get it from signwriting suppliers although some signwriting companys do sell it to the public. The stuff sold in craft shops is different as it has a card outer skin and the internal foam is softer. Try googling foamex.

http://www.colourbanners.co.uk/foamex.php

http://www.exantia.co.uk/direct_to_board/foamex.html

http://www.foamex.com.au/home.html

Just a couple of links. I get mine from my brother in law's signwriting business. ;-)

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Moving on slightly. Here we have the underside of the top section of roof.....




The squares are strips of the mirrored vinyl and when the roof is put together they make great reflectors for the lights...







Here we have the front of the extension cut from 3mm thick foamex...




With the brickpaper on the building is starting to take shape....




Note also how the brick wall is reflected back. Add a few more fimilar bits.....




Overall view.....




The position of the backlit sign can be seen clearly on the right. Right off to finish the window frames just wish next doors alarm would shut up! :roll:

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You can certainly knock these things up quickly Dave and they are very effective.



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ooooh looking good . it looks great david brilliant.

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As Bob says, you can certainly move along with these buildings Dave. :thumbs

I had a look at the links you gave for suppliers and it occurred to me that I hope your contact for off-cuts doesn't dry up - not cheap this stuff :shock::shock::shock:.  

If you had to buy it,  an A4 sheet in 3mm at £20 would make a big hole in your costings.

Having re-read the link - I see it is for a "printed" A4 board.  I couldn't find a price for just the board  ?????



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Just as well I know where the signwriters get it from! I think the last time I asked my brother in law the cost for a 8'x4' sheet of 3mm was about £20. Thats a lot of buildings! :thumbs

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That's cheap Dave.  Must be a good profit in printing on the stuff if they can charge £20 for an A4 printed board....................:roll::roll:

Forgot to say how good the building was looking. :thumbs:thumbs



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Ok last update today. A bit later than anticapated as I had to change my cv, send off a job application and organise a car! Right with every building im learning better tecniques of doing things and I must say I will be sad to see this one go to it's new owner untill the next build of course! ;-)

One of the challenges with this build was to capture the look of the origanal building but in half reliff as it has to fit on a hornby platform. To give the building some depth I have been working with some mirrored vinyl on the rear wall. Now one of the features that realy stands out is seeing the other set of doors as you look through the station entrance way. To achive the effect of the missing doors needs a bit of cunning (more cunning than a fox with a degree in cunning baldrick!) So on the rear of the doors we produce the other side like...




When viewed through the building we get...




note the opening to the right...




The sign front lights up realy well. The blue background is actualy the translucent stuff that is used on real signs. To test I used the work light again....




The shop front still needs to be added but you get the idea...




With the brickwork on and the window frames in the building is now starting to resemble the prototype.......




I still have to add the distintive blue wooden trims around the base and fit a door...




This gives an idea of what the lighting will look like....






Just need the led's to be delivered now before I can finish off the roof. :roll:

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Well done Basil (Brush that is, not Fawlty).

The way you have done the reflective door is ingenuity in itself.

Once a few of those get out and about there will be a queue of requests for more, I'm sure of it.



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Nice on Dave!

I am sure these signwriters always have plenty of off-cuts.  Given that businesses are charged for all their waste collection they are probably glad to get rid of them!

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Wow Dave - that's looking great. :thumbs

As Marty said, once these get around the "circuit", I hope you'll be able to cope with the work load.  They look very professional indeed.

I forgot to ask earlier - what are the little solder blobs on the wires here:




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