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 Posted: Sat Jun 19th, 2010 08:00 pm
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that looks the biz Dave,how people work in that gauge beats me.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 19th, 2010 08:03 pm
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Binoculars I think ! :lol:

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 Posted: Sun Jun 20th, 2010 02:48 pm
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Ladies and gents it gives me great pleasure to present Norton East....















I couldn't resist putting the building on my N gauge layout..


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 Posted: Sun Jun 20th, 2010 03:50 pm
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Wow - that's a cracker Dave :thumbs

Well up to your usual standards.  Was it tough modelling at half size ?  I know there's no way I could work in "N" - unfortunately. :sad:



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My eyes feel a bit sore but apart from that it was actualy easer as the materials were thinner. This build I used Jims methord of double sided tape that speeded things up and TBH this is the best one I have done to date! It makes my 00 gauge stuff look very toy like in comparsion so now I will have to start detailing the 00 stuff better. The pics realy dont do the model justice as it has the usual finish like frosted glass panels, metal effect kick plates and chrome door handles. On the office door I found a way of simulating the blinds and even fitted the small private sign ! The layout that the building will go on will be based on the north east (hartlepool/teesside area) so the name Norton east reflects this ( Norton is also an area of Stockton). As the client is a member of RM Web im hoping that I might get a bit more exposure on there. Fingers crossed.

Now I have done my first N gauge building im seriously thinking of doing the Kidsgrove prototype building in N along with the signal box to display above potters lane at the shows. Im even tempted to build the whole station as a dirama or possably a working layout above one of potters lanes fiddle yards! :thumbs

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 03:46 am
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Love it Dave, great expertise as per mnormal Dave.

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Next building on the westcoast workbench is for our very own YMR member Wheeltapper. Richard is planning to model Portishead station on the western region of BR. Earler in the year he sent me some pics of the station buildings and some basic plans that were origanaly printed in a copy of railway modeller from 1968! I did make a start on the project before it was temporaly shelved and was thinking of building the main station building as a demo for the westcoast exhibition display. I got as far as enlarging the RM plans from N gauge as printed to 00 and also aquiring some wills paving sheets for the distintive cladding. With three weeks to go to the show I thought I had better make a start this morning as I want to bring the building with me for display. This will be a very straight forward build of basicly a perspex shell overlaid with the window frames and stone cladding so wont take too long to assemble. Using the plans as a guide I have just marked out the shell and cut it out with a jig saw. One thing I have noticed about the plans is that one of the walls is slightly smaller than the rest so I will have to use a bit of modeling licence or we will end up with a lop sided building ! As a guide to the size of the building the plans scaled out as 14"x 2 1/4" with the width being 4". Pics later. :thumbs

 

Im sure that Richard will post somthing about the history of the building. ;-)

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Ok this is what im attempting to build...





At the moment im having a rethink as to how im going to do it as the only refrence drawings I have are compleatly wrong! A closer inspection of the pics reveals that the building is made from an internal concrete frame similar to the large platform canopy. As far as I can make out the frame is a set of 8 upside down U shapes that also form part of the small canopy at the front. The windows are arranged in sets of three with the middle one opening out. My origanal plan will be modified to match the origanal building more closely than the inaccurate model that is in the railway modeller artical.


I dont have any good reference pics of the platform side of the building so if anyone has any please post! :thumbs

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Dave i googled portishead, it came up with what you need i think
only the copy link won`t work, it is a bbc  piece shows back side and front shots.

this is the link-BBC - Bristol - In pictures: Portishead railway

works now.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8064000/8064416.stm

Beat me to it, Owen.



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Cheers Owen I already have those ones. The more I study the pics the moreim convinced about the buildings construction. I am going to cut some 'concrete' frames from 3mm foamex and see what they look like. :thumbs

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87 101 wrote: Next building on the westcoast workbench is for our very own YMR member Wheeltapper. Richard is planning to model Portishead station on the western region of BR. 
 

Im sure that Richard will post somthing about the history of the building. ;-)


 

Well as we all know the speed that Dave works I had better do my bit otherwise he will have finished before I have started.:roll:

For those of you heading down the M5 to our show in Cornwall in a few weeks  you will no doubt have time to admire the views across to the Severn Estuary as the motorway crosses the Bristol Avon as its a notorious slow section. On the north bank of the Avon lies Avonmouth Docks , on the  south bank  lie the new Portbury Docks now rail served once again by a reopened Portishead branch.If you look across to the south west you may catch a glimpse of a glint of water about 2 miles away which was Portishead Docks and is now a marina.Until the coming of the motorway this area of North Somerset was difficult to access as the nearest crossing point of the Bristol Avon was the Clifton Suspension bridge some way up stream and the connecting roads were little more than country lanes .

So development of the area relied on the railways . First on the scene was the GWR who built their terminus at the end of a branch from Bristol Temple Meads adjacent to the docks. The second railway to arrive was the quirky Weston , Clevedon & Portishead Light Railway , one of the Col Stephens empire which had its much less grand terminus near the town centre  ( actually the station building was a wooden structure that would have been more at home in a municipal park) but which was connected to the GWR for the exchange of goods vehicles.

The docks developed a healthy trade in timber and chemicals and a large  power station was built next to the GW station with coal being brought in from the North Somerset coalfield. The railway had some workers and commuter traffic for Bristol and hoped to become something of a seaside resort for Bristol and the Midlands with attractions such as an open air swimming pool and boating lake were buit onthe "front".

In the early 1950s The Central Electricity Generating Board wanted to considerably extend the Portishead Power Station to meet higher demands but development land was not available  due to the topography around the docks . The only possible site was occupied by the railway station . They approached BR with an offer - sell us the station site and we will make a contribution of £250000 towards the cost of a completely new passenger station on a site nearer the town centre. Of course BR jumped at the chance as £250K was an awefull lot of cash in those days . Architects were employed and a design for an ultra modern station were drawn up , the first completely new station to be built in Britain after WW2  and which was to look rather incongruous with the trains using it being mainly former GWR Diesel Railcars , Pannier Tanks and the new Standard class 3 tanks. The station opened for business in 1954 and being paid for by the CEGB had the very latest new fangled fluorescent lights fitted . A fact BR regretted when they got the first quarterly bill and found it was bigger than the station receipts so had to remove over half the lights to afford to run the others. The station sadly only lasted ten years and was closed by Dr Beeching in 1964 . As a youngster we used to stay at a holiday home belonging to a relative just outside Portishead quite often so I got to know the station well and on one memorable occasion was allowed to sit beside the driver in a GW Diesel railcar for the trip down virtually the whole branch and actually drove the train into the platform at Portishead.

Cyril Freezer once described Portishead as the only modern GW terminus in captivity - it will be an interesting model to develop.



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Told you we would get a history lesson! :thumbs

Ok these were printed in the railway modeller and have been cropped. The first shows the entrance....



If you look closely you can make out the canopy streaching out behind the main building. The canopy is constructed using upside down U concrete sections...



The more I study the pics the more I think the station building was built the same. One thing I did notice Richard is that on the railway modeller plans the platform side is missing a window. If you compare the above left hand image with the plan the window looks like it is set into a timber framed panel between the door/window on the left and the main entrance on the right. For some reason the plan shows this as a plain stone wall.

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I knew Mike Farr who did the drawings back then and from what I remember of some of the stuff he did and what other people have said while I have been looking for information he was , shall we say in the nicest possible way, " a little free with the Modellers  Licence " as regards the prototype. I am therefore not that surprised the buildings photos dont match the drawings in some respects.

I have been back to a couple of contacts who have been helping look for info and one has come back today and said they think there is a possibility there maybe a full set of architects plans at York - anyone got any contacts there who may be able to find out ?



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That would not supprise me! It would be intresting to compare the proper plans with how I think the station was built. I have just cut out one of the platform canopy frames from 5mm foamex and it looks pritty good compared to the pics and also when place in front of the RM plans. Im just trying to work out the shape of the 8 frames needed for the station building as there are 3 different types. :thumbs

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I have been back through everything I have got and it looks as though the only other picture that shows the platform side of the building is the one with the Diesel Railcar W28W stood at the buffers but it doesnt show enough of the building to be of any help.



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After studying all the pics I'm fairly confident now of how the building was constructed and also how to replicate it in 00. There are 8 concrete frames in total that break the station building down into seven sections. The two outside frames are just U shaped. One of the frames has a support for the roadside canopy whilst the remaining 5 have canopy supports either side. I have cut out the odd one and one of the 5 so only 4 more to do. I have estimated the dimensions based on the pics available. Rather than make the outside structure from a single sheet of clear plastic as done on the RM model I will actually fit the walls into slots cut into the frames so that they match the profile of the original building. One thing I have noticed is that the wills sheet looks nothing like the original stonework so we will have to look for somthing closer. Pics later when I have cut all the frames out. :thumbs

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Ok a few piccys first here's the origanal RM plans..



My amended plan with the missing window..



Right this is how I think the building was put together....



Looking at the main entrance way..



Roadside view..



from above..





This is one of the platform canopy frames. The view is back into the booking hall..



again from above..



and for a size comparison a lima mk3..



Now that I have cut all the frames you can compare them with the pics of the real building. The frames look exposed between the windows but are hidden behind the stone cladding. The main entrance is recessed into them and they are more noticable on the pics of the platform side.

 

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