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 Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 03:47 pm
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I wanted to incorporate a double-track level crossing to help break up the curve on the approach to the station on my layout.

I had already decided that this was going to be a 2-gate crossing, similar to one on the Mid-Norfolk Railway:



I took a few photos and worked out the rough dimensions from them. The gates themselves were simply constructed using various sizes of plastic strip. The circular warning plates were cut from .010" sheet.



The large vertical posts are going to be remade as they are mock-ups constructed from scrap. They were made to estimate the size in relation to the gates.

A few details for hinges and braces, etc., will be all that is needed to complete the crossing gates.

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Hi Perry
Your gates look great,it's not clear in the prototype shot if there is any mesh on the gates ,Nottingham lace looks the part either painted black or left white (ask the wife if she has finished with her best table cloth first though)
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Neat Perry, very neat, as is to be expected.



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Ianbo wrote: Hi Perry
Your gates look great,it's not clear in the prototype shot if there is any mesh on the gates ,Nottingham lace looks the part either painted black or left white (ask the wife if she has finished with her best table cloth first though)
Bozzie .


The full-size photo does show the mesh, although as you rightly say, it can't be seen in the smaller version on here. :thumbs

I plan to add some suitable material once most of the detailing and painting is completed.

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Robert wrote: Neat Perry, very neat, as is to be expected.

Thanks, Bob,

It's reassuring to hear that I'm not losing my touch. ;-)

Perry



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It's reassuring to hear that I'm not losing my touch. ;-)

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Perry are the real ones hand operated gates or do they have some sort of auto motor arrangement attached to them?

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I'm pretty sure they are hand operated, but they are only closed to road traffic infrequently. One side of the crossing is preserved railway which operates diesels quite regularly but the other side only seems to be used for rolling stock storage at the moment.

A small building has been erected close to the crossing, so there may be plans afoot to change things in the future.



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I love that small building, Perry. With those windows and lower side panels that surely must be a scratch-building challenge? No I'm not suggesting ... :oops::oops:;-)



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The signal box I scratchbuilt some time ago will be sited adjacent to my crossing, so I have no need to build this little cabin. It would have been ideal had I needed a building for that location though.

I've hit a small snag with building the crossing; I've run out of some sizes of strip styrene. I needed to stock up on three different sizes so I made the thirty mile round trip to my 'local' supplier. He was out out of stock of three sizes from the range. Yes....you've guessed which three!!!! :sad:

I've ordered some on the internet now, so I'll just have to wait for them to arrive. Working out fuel and parking costs and weighing them against postage and packing charges, it appears slightly cheaper to order direct. So if the supplier I have chosen turns out to be good and reliable, I expect to get all my strip styrene supplies from him in the future.

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Hi Perry, I've had the same problem for a few months now, most suppliers seem to be out of stock of some sizes and it's always the ones you want.

I've recently switched to buying my styrene strip, angles etc. etc. from Squires (last 3 orders) and never had an "out of stock" issue. Prices seem OK and as long as you make up a £10 order, no UK postage. They are only a quick telephone call away and very efficient. I seem to be ordering various things from them about twice a month lately. 

Anyone with a Squires catalogue will know that there's never going to be a problem "making up" a £10 order   ...   wish I could occasionally keep it to £10 :exclam:exclam

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I have an old Squires catalogue, Jeff. Unfortunately then don't (or didn't back then) seem to stock Evergreen products. :???:

I like to stick to material that I have tried and tested, because that way I know the limitations and capabilities of it. I once thought that plastic strip was plastic strip no matter where it came from, but unfortunately there is some rubbish out there that costs as much as the good stuff.

Perry



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What they do stock, Perry, is Plastruct (Fineline) strips, angles and shapes. The original stuff and undoubtedly still the best.

 And of course Slaters, Wills etc. I don't think you'll have any problems with the quality of materials there :exclam:exclam

Ring 01243 842424 for a catalogue.

PS the PETG sheet they list is indeed the stuff you used in your last scratch-build. Brilliant material :thumbs:thumbs 

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Thanks, Jeff.:thumbs

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Perry, I just got caught up on this thread, been rather busy with my folks here. It looks super so far! One question though, how are you going to hinge the gates? Or do I have to wait and watch! :thumbs

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So if you find the gates are moter driven, as your a master builder why not put one in and have working gates, great idea hey. Ok where is my bike. :pedal

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Wayne Williams wrote: Perry, I just got caught up on this thread, been rather busy with my folks here. It looks super so far! One question though, how are you going to hinge the gates? Or do I have to wait and watch! :thumbs

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The gates are going to be fixed, Wayne. I can see no point in complicating matters; after all, the road traffic doesn't move. In my humble opinion, it looks slightly daft to see traffic apparently stopped at a crossing, watching the gates open, then seeing the traffic still not moving!

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The normal position of level crossing gates by law is actually closed to road traffic, so there would be nothing wrong with that!  An exemption is required from the Department of Transport to have the gates normally open to road traffic, although in this day and age most of the crossings on main roads have that exemption...

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It's amazing what little gems of information crop up on here!

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well i now have one bit prototypical at least , bring on the rivet counters

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