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 Posted: Tue Dec 30th, 2008 09:57 am
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Mike, the diesels are still un-weathered (if that's a word).  Are you sure you want to see them?



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Max

Thats a great video and that is some steam loco the sound came through well on the video do you blow your own sounds onto the chip or do you buy them pre installed?

Daft question why do they ring the bell on american steam locos? They have a hooter so what is the point of the bell?

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Thanks Brian.  That is an OEM (factory fitted) QSI sound decoder.  It is the first loco I ever bought and the only one with QSI.  The other locos I have fitted with Loksound decoders with sound files I downloaded, manipulated and uploaded into the decoders.

American locos (including diesels) still have bells.  They are rung to warn pedestrians that the loco may be about to move or is moving slowly through yards.  As there is so much noise, even with diesels, the sound of the bell cuts through.  They are still supposed to ring the bells when approaching level crossings, but as modern trains travel so fast, they have fitted bells to the crossing signals as well.

On the Nickel Plate Road in particular, but on other roads as well, Management was so tight fisted that using costly fuel to toot whistles and run dynamos for lights was frowned upon.  Much cheaper to have some poor driver exercise his arm ringing a bell. 



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 Of course I want to see 'em :lol::lol:

 I enjoyed the video. I like the treed landscape at one end of the layout. You made it seem like an even longer journey than it is.
 As for the sound, I've only had the chance to run three sound locos - all with QSI, and all diesels. To a newcomer like me it sounds great, as does your steamer. I can imagine though that fiddling and tweaking it and downloading other files could become quite a passion.

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Max,

great video! And the layout is very impressive, too!

:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb

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Max stop worrying it was fine,i enjoyed it but to be honest i don`t think i
could take all that sound for long,
can you imagine 2 or 3 loco`s running !!

:doublethumb;-):lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::cool:

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Ballasting looks pretty good to me Max, you have a nice blend of shades in there, might benefit from a bit of darker green scrub but it is a minor point really.

Do we want to see loco pictures? good grief man you have been a member of this forum long enough now to know better than asking daft questions like that ;-)

Get them on here man :lol:

Meant to say, really enjoyed the vid too, cracking loco.  I thought something had a squeaky wheel, then realised you must have a parakeet (or some such) in the background :roll:

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Lawrence wrote: Do we want to see loco pictures? good grief man you have been a member of this forum long enough now to know better than asking daft questions like that ;-)

Get them on here man :lol:


And start with the PAs please!

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OK  OK  I'll take some pics tonight.  Thanks for your comments about the scenery.  I have gone for a minimalist treatment as a first run on scenery, so I can pinch all your good ideas as I go along.  As for the sound (noise), Owen, you are right.  I currently have 16 locos and only a few of them together make a lot of noise.  When I first started I didn't know how to set the function maps, so every time I switched the layout on, they all started up together!

Lawrence, we live in the hills south of Adelaide and our back yard is chockers with brightly coloured and very noisey parrots.  Wendy is also a "rescuer" and we have an aviary full of the sick, lame and lazy as well.



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MaxSouthOz wrote: .............  Wendy is also a "rescuer" and we have an aviary full of the sick, lame and lazy as well.

And that includes Max as well :mutley

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Max,

I have just watched the video again and I am impressed by the generous radius of the curves. This really does the big engines justice! :thumbs

I had some big engines in the past but on the trainset curves of my old HO/OO layout these looked poor.

 

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Thanks Thomas.  I made the layout as big as I could.  In some places my aisles are a bit tight, but my MRR friends are 'close' friends - they have to be!  Do you have a special interest in the NKP?



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The NKP once was on my shortlist when I considered collecting American N scale.

Why:

Impressive steam locos (I like the Berks more than BigBoys or Challengers)

Interesting roster of diesel from GM, Alco, Baldwin, Fairbanks Morse

Alco PA (my favorite US diesel) http://www.nkp190.com/progress/images/190pa011.jpg

Great freight and passenger paint schemes, Blue Bird livery

"High Speed Service" freight trains more interesting for me than endless string of coal hoppers.

 

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I think Dundee MRC have an HO Big Boy (sure it was them :???:) and I have to say it was stunning to see it emerging from the tunnel.

Wouldn't say no to a Berkshire if I was given one, but I do like my early EMD units.  Can't get an N Scale F3 without a second mortgage, and that's if you can find one :cry:

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It's interesting that every PA model is numbered 190.  Mine is, as is Tony Koester's.



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owen69 wrote: Max stop worrying it was fine,i enjoyed it but to be honest i don`t think i
could take all that sound for long,
can you imagine 2 or 3 loco`s running !!

:doublethumb;-):lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::cool:

I sometimes have 3-4 sound locos running at once in different areas of my 20'x10' layout area.
 The secret is to turn volume down so each loco can only be heard in a 3' to 4' area.

When I have finished altering the track in Western end of Neverton yard on layout I will round Adam (son) up and try and get some footage done of a sound diesel/steam or two working through the mountains and yard shunting.

Happy New Year to all
Will talk to you next year.

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Great video Max,and what a lovely loco....!!!
  I really like those big American steamers with the headlights,and those 'old style' diesels you get from the 50's.Proper rock'n'roll.
  The sound effects were really good too.

Cheers,John.B.

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Thanks JB, can't wait to get to good cam going.  Now here are some shots of my diesels.  I have sampled a few of the many diesels NKP used over the years.  I was going to take stunning shots posed on my bench, to capture all the detail, but I thought it would be more appropriate to see them 'at work' - even though the picture quality is less.



Here are two RS 3's  One of the earliest NKP diesels.  Note that they are driven 'long hood forward' - no doubt in the transition from steam where the driver was at the back.  They are working a string of coal hoppers at the Jeruslaem Ridge Mine Coal Preparation Plant.



The dreaded PA PB combo thundering through the cutting east of the Cripple Creek bridge.  These units pull 5 x 70 foot Pullman cars and a 70 foot baggage car on my layout.  You can see my non-proto ditch lights low front.  They are two 1600 mcd ultra bright LED's which light up the cutting like daylight.



Two GP 7's hauling freight through the Salt Creek loops.  Already the driving position has moved forward.  These are known as 'road switchers'.  They are 4 axle units, and can be consisted as shown here to provide double ended power units, or operate individually as shunters.




The GP 9's - a later model from the same stable.  These two have been refuelled and are ready to hook up.



The SD 9.  A six axle long haul unit, crossing the bridge at Cripple Creek.



and finally, the SW 8.  A four axle switcher sitting at the refuelling depot.  This is the first unit I equipped with a Loksound decoder, and it sounds as good today as when I first built it.

That's it, 10 diesels.  Just the right amount for a layout of my size.



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Max great photos there

Is or was the nickel plate railroad a real place or is it imaginary?

On the side of the locos what does the yellow loco brand name say i cant make it out from the photos. It doent look like nickel plate railroad.

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Hi Brian.  Glad you enjoyed the pics.  Obviously the quality isn't too good, coz you can't read the name . . .

The Nickel Plate Road is a nickname coined by a journalist in the late 1800's to describe the fledgling New York, Chicago and St Louis Railroad, which ran from Buffalo in New York State, through Chicao to St Louis.  Anything nickel plated was pretty good quality in those days.

The railroad eventually folded in the late 1950's, but not after a stellar carreer as one of the first "customer service oriented" business in the US.  The business was based around fast freight, particularly perishables (fruit, vegetables, meat, etc) and they were the pioneers in the use of refrigerated boxcars, or "reefers" where the produce was packed with ice and sped away to the customers.



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