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Chubber Casseroled Badger 
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....one of those brick-built retaining walls that you see around a line-side hut/shed, to prevent the earth of an embankment collapsing onto the building? Not a full wall, more 6-10ft high ' ¦'''''''''''¦ ' shape. I'm anxious to write an article which would include a practical weathering demonstration. Now I could just cobble together some angled brick walls but I'd far rather get it right, from the start. I've done lots of Googling, to no avail. |
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Robert Deceased Member 
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Can't help you myself DD but I'm sure someone will come along with what you want. |
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Sol Former Member
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My question is, ( & it may get someone knew to respond to Doofers question as well) I am interested if any platforms in the UK have ever used corrugated iron for fencing so does anyone have a photograph or link to such a fence? |
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Sol Former Member
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And I want to use it for Charde platform |
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Petermac Moderator 
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Whilst I'm probabl;y not as well travelled as many on here Sol, I have never seen corrugated iron fencing on a platform.  What they did use for speed was concrete "panel" fencing - similar to the stuff they built pre-fabs out of after the war when they had neither the time nor the materials to use brick. |
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Sol Former Member
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Mmmm, I may have to do a picket/plank version ! |
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Only one i have found doof is this one, similar thing, except they sunk a. shelter into the hillside http://www.embsayboltonabbeyrailway.org.uk/photos/ss35.jpg Hope it helps?... if not just ignore message lol  Sorry Sol Last edited on Thu Oct 13th, 2011 11:05 pm by Derbys12 |
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Chubber Casseroled Badger
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Wow, thanks Derbs! A blast from the past indeed. Not exactly what I was after but what a useful bit of railway history, would make a nice feature. I didn't find the answer but I used some plan walling instead, and it didn't get published, hey-ho! Doug [Sol was good enough to draw my attention to this post during my holiday from 'forummimg'. Doug |
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John Flann Deceased Member 
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That is an excellent photo so far as it goes and shows the massive brickwork of engineering bricks that went into building these structures, but I think it is of a disused occupation bridge and that has been made use of as rough store, rather than being constructed for that purpose. Retaining walls were expensive to construct and a set back Doug, as you mention would not be done for something like a hut that could be sited elsewhere, however where space was tight as in built up areas and a signal box, for example, was required in that particular location the expense would be justified. I suggest that if you looked for information on LNWR or L&Y signal boxes (because they ran through densely crowded areas) you are likely to find what you are looking for. |
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Robert Deceased Member
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That's a very effective item to model if you have a place for it. There's some really dodgy brickwork there. Rusty old flaking chimney, rough old timber door and a couple of containers or something for fuel for the fire. |
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Robert Deceased Member
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I want to stick the photograph in the Forum Index but I'm not sure what to call it to make it plain what it is. Give me a clue please. |
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Derbys12 Member
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I can find the link if you like, its actually a bomb shelter! :o) and yes looks very dodgy! |
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John Flann Deceased Member
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I doubt if it was a bomb shelter; my explanation is the more likely one. |
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Derbys12 Member
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John i downloaded the picture its a shelter!. http://www.embsayboltonabbeyrailway.org.uk/historic01.html On this site half way down the page :o) An air raid shelter was built into the side of the embankment during the war, and was even prepared for royal use. Last edited on Thu Oct 13th, 2011 11:02 pm by Derbys12 |
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Wheeltapper Deceased Member 
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Petermac wrote: Whilst I'm probabl;y not as well travelled as many on here Sol, I have never seen corrugated iron fencing on a platform. There were a couple of "Concrete Works" . I think Exmouth was the main one for the Southern region where they turned out just about anything the railway used in concrete prefabricated panels . Lineside Huts , Station Fencing , Station Platforms , footbridges, toilet blocks etc. There was also a WR one at Taunton but I dont think their range was quite as extensive. I dont think I have ever seen main stations use corrugated metal for fencing although on Private Light Railways such as those that were part of the Col. Stephens empire like the Weston ,Clevedon & Portishead , Mid Suffolk or Kent & East Sussex \railways or on Colliery Lines corrugated was used for everything from fencing to the station buildings themselves as it was a cheap and quick way of constructing anything. |
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Petermac Moderator
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That's interesting Richard.  you now have your prototype Sol ....................... Are there any photos that you know of Richard ? |
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Sol Former Member
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I knew that if one hunted around & asked enough questions, you will a find prototype for any thing. Thanks Richard. |
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Wheeltapper Deceased Member
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Petermac wrote: That's interesting Richard. The best source of information on Light Railways is the Oakwood Press series of books which covers just about every UK Light Railway ever built - there are numerous pictures showing a host of different uses of corrugated iron in many of the books. As regards the use of concrete then in most cases its probably best to look at a line where the Southern was responsible for property maintenance.One example is the Somerset & Dorset Railway and especially the branch line from Burnham on Sea to Evercreech Junction. At Ashcott and at Shapwick the platforms were on concrete legs with concrete slab surface , the waiting shelter at Shapwick was concrete , there was a concrete footbridge at Highbridge and one of the more unusual uses was the platform nameboard at Shapwick which was cast in concrete with raised letters . The main activity at all the railway concrete works in later days was the production of concrete sleepers. |
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John Flann Deceased Member
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... 'bomb shelter'....according to the Ilkley Gazette..., it makes a good tale, but I doubt it. |
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Petermac Moderator
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Ah - that says it all John - the Ilkley Gazette !!! Anything that's not a sheep, doesn't live on a moor or wear a hat must be a bomb shelter ............................  |
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Derbys12 Member
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Oi what you trying to say about yorkshire people! lol  .................... |
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Don't tell me you're another "one of us" Derbs  At least I left the country not just the county .....................  A Yorkshireman moving to Derbyshire is only marginally better than moving to Lancashire (but I wouldn't want to start another war .......... )  |
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lol Very true Peter, when you from Sheffield you not proud of the fact, especially now its even more of a dump! lol |
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Petermac Moderator
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Now it's time for you to wash your mouth out - my Mother was born in Sheffield (although admittedly some years before it went down hill .....) |
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Lol, she must have been born a very long time ago then lol, people frown round here as im a yorkie, but as i say , Yorkshire by Birth, Derbyshire by choice!. Usually shuts em up lol |
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Wheeltapper Deceased Member
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Petermac wrote: Now it's time for you to wash your mouth out - my Mother was born in Sheffield (although admittedly some years before it went down hill ..... I got the impression your family came from Leeds and not Sheffield Peter . Mind you once you get to the far north like Gloucester any further and my geography isnt so good.  It must be difficult for you in your new country as an ex pat yorkshireman. " Sur la lande sans chapeau " does not have the same ring to it as " On Ilkley Moor Ba'tat" |
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Mum was born in Sheffield Richard but her maternal family was from Leeds. Dad was away playing soldiers so we lived in Leeds until I was 10 then moved to rural East Yorkshire. It is indeed difficult to find decent woolly hats here ...............but then moors aren't too common either |
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The Bankie Full Member 
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Hi Guys Just found this thread. As I am in Bradford I'll take a trip to Bolton Abbey and see if I can find the "shelter". Mind you I'll wait till summer Does anyone know the approximate location of the shelter since the current station is not the original end of the line? Jim |
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