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 Posted: Sat Dec 20th, 2008 09:37 pm
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....one of those brick-built retaining walls that you see around a line-side hut/shed, to prevent the earth of an embankment collapsing onto the building?  Not a full wall, more  6-10ft high ' ¦'''''''''''¦ ' shape.

I'm anxious to write an article which would include a practical weathering demonstration. Now I could just cobble together some angled brick walls but I'd far rather get it right, from the start.

I've done lots of Googling, to no avail.




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Can't help you myself DD but I'm sure someone will come along with what you want.



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My question is, ( & it may get someone knew to respond to Doofers question as well)

I am interested if any platforms in the UK have ever used corrugated iron for fencing so does anyone have a photograph or link to such a fence?

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And I want to use it for Charde platform



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Whilst I'm probabl;y not as well travelled as many on here Sol, I have never seen corrugated iron fencing on a platform. :roll:

What they did use for speed was concrete "panel" fencing - similar to the stuff they built pre-fabs out of after the war when they had neither the time nor the materials to use brick.



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Mmmm, I may have to do a picket/plank version !

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Only one i have found doof is this one, similar thing, except they sunk a. shelter into the hillside



http://www.embsayboltonabbeyrailway.org.uk/photos/ss35.jpg
Hope it helps?... if not just ignore message lol :mutley


 

 

Sorry Sol :roll:

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Wow, thanks Derbs! A blast from the past indeed. Not exactly what I was after but what a useful bit of railway history, would make a nice feature. I didn't find the answer but I used some plan walling instead, and it didn't get published, hey-ho!

Doug

[Sol was good enough to draw my attention to this post during my holiday from 'forummimg'.

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That is an excellent photo so far as it goes and shows the massive brickwork of engineering bricks that went into building these structures, but I think it is of a disused occupation bridge and that has been made use of as rough store, rather than being constructed for that purpose.

Retaining walls were expensive to construct and a set back Doug, as you mention would not be done for something like a hut that could be sited elsewhere, however where space was tight as in built up areas and a signal box, for example, was required in that particular location the expense would be justified.

I suggest that if you looked for information on LNWR or L&Y signal boxes (because they ran through densely crowded areas) you are likely to find what you are looking for.



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That's a very effective item to model if you have a place for it. There's some really dodgy brickwork there. Rusty old flaking chimney, rough old timber door and a couple of containers or something for fuel for the fire.



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I want to stick the photograph in the Forum Index but I'm not sure what to call it to make it plain what it is. Give me a clue please.



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I can find the link if you like, its actually a bomb shelter! :o) and yes looks very dodgy!

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I doubt if it was a bomb shelter; my explanation is the more likely one.



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John i downloaded the picture its a shelter!.

http://www.embsayboltonabbeyrailway.org.uk/historic01.html

On this site half way down the page :o)

 

An air raid shelter was built into the side of the embankment during the war, and was even prepared for royal use.

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Petermac wrote: Whilst I'm probabl;y not as well travelled as many on here Sol, I have never seen corrugated iron fencing on a platform. :roll:

What they did use for speed was concrete "panel" fencing - similar to the stuff they built pre-fabs out of after the war when they had neither the time nor the materials to use brick.


There were a couple of "Concrete Works" . I think Exmouth was the main one for the Southern region where they turned out just about anything the railway used in concrete prefabricated panels . Lineside Huts , Station Fencing , Station Platforms , footbridges, toilet blocks etc.

There was also a WR one at Taunton but I dont think their range was quite as extensive.

I dont think I have ever seen main stations  use corrugated metal for fencing although on Private Light Railways such as those that were part of the Col. Stephens empire like the Weston ,Clevedon & Portishead , Mid Suffolk or Kent & East Sussex \railways  or on Colliery Lines corrugated was used for everything from fencing to the station buildings themselves as it was a cheap and quick way of constructing anything. 



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That's interesting Richard. :thumbs

you now have your prototype Sol .......................

Are there any photos that you know of Richard ?



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I knew that if one hunted around & asked enough questions, you will a find prototype for any thing.
Thanks Richard.

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Petermac wrote: That's interesting Richard. :thumbs

you now have your prototype Sol .......................

Are there any photos that you know of Richard ?


 

The best source of information on Light Railways is the Oakwood Press series of books which covers just about every UK Light Railway ever built - there are numerous pictures showing a host of different uses of corrugated iron in many of the books.

As regards the use of concrete then in most cases its probably best to look at a line where the Southern was responsible for property maintenance.One example is the Somerset & Dorset Railway and especially the branch line from Burnham on Sea to Evercreech Junction. At Ashcott and at Shapwick the platforms were on concrete legs with concrete slab surface , the waiting shelter at Shapwick was concrete , there was a concrete footbridge at Highbridge and one of the more unusual uses was the platform nameboard at Shapwick which was cast in concrete with raised letters .

The main activity at all the railway concrete works in later days was the production of concrete sleepers.



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... 'bomb shelter'....according to the Ilkley Gazette..., it makes a good tale, but I doubt it.



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Ah - that says it all John - the Ilkley Gazette !!!

Anything that's not a sheep, doesn't live on a moor or wear a hat must be a bomb shelter ............................:lol::lol::lol:



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