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 Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 06:50 pm
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When I first introduced you to my pair of portable layouts (the  downstairs teminus and harbour) I said they would be linked by a centre section.



This was for a couple of reasons,

1.  If the layouts went to a show ( I have one invite for Romily next September) the centre section would give an indication of travelling from A - B all-be-it they would form 3 seperate dioramas

2.  At the time I commited to build a module that could be used at the annual Chesire Railway Modellers exhibition. The plan is that several members would build modules no bigger than 3' long 1' wide and all the modules as seperate dioramas would be linked together.. See here

http://crmforum.proboards51.com/index.cgi?board=modules&action=display&thread=520

So I thought i cold kill two birds with one stone. The original plan was to base my section on "the embankment" a homage to the "Railway Children" but I just havent been able to motivate myself. Then today I decided !!!! I can model the trans Penine line as it leaves Mossley Station, only 5mins from my house plus it is unusual, Its the ultimate in garden railways for the residents !!!







I think when trains pass they have to hold the orniments.

There will be some aristic licence, the distant footbridge will be considerably closer, it will be a single track line to suit both the competition and my linking needs.

The buildings will be half relief as when used as my link there will be a cassette / fiddle behind.

At the moment Network Rail are replacing the saftey barrier, hence the green mesh, this also prevented me getting on the footbridge.

Thoughts !!!

 

 

 

 

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 Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 07:01 pm
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I just don't believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We must be brothers :hmm  this is exactly what the diorama that I was going to build would have looked like, and as I have just said to you, it's about time you looked at building something new, and this will be a really great little project, I was excited by it until the US layout idea arrived.

Looking forward to seeing this completed by the weekend :mutley

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Sounds like a good plan to me John. Will you be using the scalescenes three story houses. They can be built as full buildings or low relief as required and come with fireplaces, wallpaper, etc. One idea that im thinking of for my layout is either a building site or house being worked on complete with scafolding, etc. I have seen this on a layout in model rail and wanted to do one ever since! ;-) 

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 Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 08:22 pm
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Alan, this is getting far to regular an occurance, we're spooking each other now LOL, I am getting quite excited now!

Dave,Scalescenes will be in ther Im going to check the sit now, but I might just get the stone download and scratch build them.

Ive spent the evening doing a scale drawing and have discovered I only need to loose 3 - 4 houses to keep in the 1meter.



The first seven from the left have a slightly lower roof line, also on a closer look the building go down hill left to right following the slope of the main road behind them. Mine will be level. They are the backs of takeaways and shops so there is lots of interesting ducting everywhere. At the extreme left the road bridge end the last building is a chippy.

The next step is to take my 1/76 scale printout and make some sketches on it as several have changed there window config.

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Dave I think style wise the small (2 floor) terrace will do the main run but Im not sure about the brick, the nearest seems to be ashlar, have you download this finish ? If so does it look too different than the proto pics I have shown. Unfortunatley it doesnt seem to have single size bricks.

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"Its the ultimate in garden railways..." :lol::lol:

 Should make a terrific backdrop, I reckon. 

 I thought maybe Mayang.com would have a brick texture like that, but the site is down and appears to have been down for some time :cry:

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No my two storey houses were dark red brick. On scalescenes website someware there is a test print download so that you can see what the diffrent finishes look like when printed on your printer. I have printed it off but carn't find the sheet I printed!:roll: 

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Here's the link.....

http://www.scalescenes.com/test/scalescenes_test_print.pdf

Have you seen the brass windows advertised on their site?

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printed the test sheet thanks, looks like every now and then a set of half height stones are added in to each row. Its hard to tell of the test print how often every now and then is !!! I might splash out on the scratchbuilders full sheet just so I can see it in a large area.

Not heard of Mayang, is that downloads or sales ?

Of to try CGdownloads now to see what they have !

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Dave, that link & PDF is good - more varieties than the  samples from Brickyard, the Evans Design package.

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Perfect little linking scene between the goods yard and the harbour John.
I like the detail and differentiation between the backs of the houses. Drain pipes, different coloured window frames, chimneys, moss on the brickwork, pot plants in the back yards, ivy up the walls, some scaffolding?! Slate for roofing? Wonderful stuff, what a build.
Will you do some of the vegetation on the other side of the line or leave it low and flat for photography?



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John there is a free down load site in the index, all sorts of walls and textures
and i am sure there is one with windows too.

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Thanks Owen.

Marty I will probably leave this side flater as you say for photography reasons, or make the font section removable, but the dowside to that is you dont have any scenery in the foreground, so I guess It will be low vegitation !! perhaps on a slight slope to give the correct impression:...

Sorry about that, thinking while typing.

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I splashed out on the scalescenes terrace house download (at 4.99 it was not going to break the bank if its not right)

So tonight I have started building up a block of 6 for the left end. The stone work is to big really but I may be able to live with it. I have no plans to be that particular as to go and measure every brick and house !

This is how far I have got,

The base prints stuck on a double thickness of Cherrio box (other breakfast cerrials are available !) then holes cut out



Top layer cut and stuck on first 3. The lintels looked a bit flat so I cut a set out and glued them ontop



They dont look bad and ther is the danger of taking them out of context of the overall picture at this early stage.

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£4.99! well I supose you are proberly skint after buying that HST.:mutley

Stonework looks ok will be intresting to see what the finished house looks like.;-)

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That £4.99 also lets you make them ad infinitum at no further cost. Unless the price of Cheerios goes up of course. :lol:



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john those scalscenes houses are ok, i started them just before i had to stop modelling for a while,plenty of detail if wanted.but you are making them low relief
i think.

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John, it depends upon how faithful you want to be to the original, if the photo is just a guide to provide some ideas for the build then the stone face will be fine.
If you want someone to recongnise the area without saying, there is something weird, then maybe overlaying with a closer matching brickwork may be better.
Just depends on what you want, after all, it's your railway.



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After a coupe of false starts I have had a change of plan. After inestigating acetate sheets to print the scaescenes windows on (£14.99 !!!) I decided to but 3 metcalfe terrace house kits for not much more !

I then discovered that the distance between the visible front track and the hidden siding behind was planned badly on the terminus layout !!! ie 3" between adjacent rails, which nearly brought the project to an end. Then inspiration hit.
houses will be much shallower downstairs so the hidden fiddle yard will be hearly in them. The back scene line is shown in red.



here they are from the front





scalescenes roofs look better with strips of tiles so they have been used



Looks like one of the terrace's have had a new roof and the builder cut corners by spacing the slate batterns further apart



The base is laminated up from 6mm balsa so is light but tough, I plan to keep working on them as is until I get a warmer day tocut the baseboard outside.

As the competition limit is 3' long some of the buildings have had to be "lost" to reduce the length to the 3' limit

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looking through the pictures again Iv decided the stonework on these is much closer to the original than the scalescence, in fact the scalescenes almost looks to be overscale ?

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