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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 08:19 pm
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Okay my name is John and I have a PACER (class 142)

Thats the embarrasing bit over??

Some time ago I bought a second hand Pacer just for the quirky good looks. I see them quite often at Oldham Mumps as I am sat in traffic too.



It ran like a bag of spanners when I got it, each car has a motor diving the single axel at the outer end, one wheel has a traction tyre one picks up. The axel on the inner end of both cars pick up on both rails. so i its origina condition each car could run seperatley with one pickup of one side and two pickups of the other.

 I got it to run a bit better by linking the pickups and motors in each car to each other, so at least the motors work together and have now got twice the pickups they had. Only problem I have sometimes now is that the wheels are wide on the rail top so occasionaly it creates a short on points.

I hate the colour !!! So Its going into the paint shop, when they first rolled out in 86 I believe they were orange !!! Im really getting into my blue grey look now but cant find a pacer pictured in that livery. Im aiming at a mid 80s look on Springhead Junction but Im not too strict on that.

So any ideas for a colour scheme that is NW area mid 80s (ish) or just a livery it will look better wearing ?

 

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 10:21 pm
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John rjr,have you seen western region brown & cream ?
looks rather smart, grey roof,yellow ends,now where yours are blue & white
change to cream,the dark blue band change to brown and the doors are brown too
those were the colours about the time you want.

:cheers;-):lol::lol::lol::lol::cool:

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 10:46 pm
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The first few were released to traffic in GMPTE orange / white livery. A few more arrived in psudo-GWR chocolate and cream.

The vast majority arrived new in the blue scheme modelled by Hornby.

 

Subsequently some have carried Tyne and Wear yellow and more recently many other liveries have appeared

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 Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 06:50 am
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Nothing wrong with the Pacer (or Skipper as they were called down here) - I have two myself although they are in the proper colours!

I will try and find some pictures of the various liveries.  The newer versions have a different drive to that on yours John with through wiring and are much better runners.

Northern Rail Yellow: -



Arriva Turquoise: -


Original Skipper livery at Penzance
 


 

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 Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 06:58 am
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what you call skipper livery is called wester region in my book Chris.

:hmm:lol::lol::lol::cool:

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Christrerise wrote:Nothing wrong with the Pacer

You never had the pleasure of being woken up by the St. Ives branch train squealing round the curves did you?  And I'm talking about living in Hayle which isn't even on the same line!!!

However they are a part of the scene and are one of the more numerous dmu classes to be seen around the country.  As such they are perfectly at home on a suitable model and at least the newer ones seem to run better.

Getting decent pick-up on a 4-wheel vehicle is never going to be that easy; the newer ones do seem to be a bit better with the improved current collection.

Chris is right in that the name "skipper" was the official term west of England (an attempt to pretend they were not Pacers, perhaps, as the  first batch gained a poor reputatation in Manchester before the WR got theirs?) but "slipper" was used as often when they failed to make the grades.

 

 

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 Posted: Thu Nov 27th, 2008 06:26 am
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Not to mention the one that "froze" to the rails at St Ives!

Jim Collins was the man responsible for the Skipper name and he fought to ensure Cornwall was one of the first areas to receive them.  Unfortunately they proved to be unsuitable although very lively on the main line!

He was also the one to get rid of them 12 months later after witnessing an entire train of people on the Looe branch with their hands pressed into their ears to try and drown out the screeching.

Jim was later to employ me at Thameslink when he was the MD having turned me down in Cornwall :roll:

The Pacers were later fitted with flange lubricators to reduce the screeching problem and whatever we may think they cut costs dramatically and kept many lines open during difficult financial times.  Perhaps they may now see a resurgence :twisted:

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Had a few friends over today for a running session and the conversation turned at one point to the Pacer family.

Opinions were mixed but none approached the better end of the scale. I was deemed to be the winner of the "Wooden Spoon" for surviving a Sunderland - Barrow journey aboard a 143.

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What percentage of the journey was actually in contact with the seat and what percentage was airborne :twisted:

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About 50:50. Though of that proportion in contact with the seat it has to be said that it was partially enforced. The seat seemed to rise suddenly up to meet my descending mass after each bounce of the suspension thereby propelling me upwards an out of contact once again.

I had been hoping for something a little more comfortable given that the trip was non-negotiotiable as a part of a "box" day out. In order to get from A to the required B by route C train X was required.

I suspect the Hornby version might be a little smoother riding on the tracks than that beast ;-)

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They are back on the Tarka Line (Exeter to Barnstaple}

Tavelling public not too keen.

Alan & Pete:hmm

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One local source has suggested they are coming back across the Tamar as well, once Falmouth has the improved service up and running.

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rjr wrote: Okay my name is John and I have a PACER 


 


So that's how you manage to get everything done so fast, you just turn your pacer up :mutley:mutley:pedal

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