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 Posted: Fri Feb 19th, 2010 11:20 pm
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Welcome to the world of DCC, no longer will you want to run dc.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2010 10:41 am
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This morning I picked up my parcel of spares from the sorting office. In the box was a class 86 underframe + weight and a class 90 motor bogie. A couple of years back I bought 4 class 86 body shells from ebay 1 RES, 1 inter city exc and 2 unpainted. As I didn't have the underframes at the time I decided that the 2 unpainted shells would be used for a couple of unusual scratchbuilds. One of the shells was used an experement at building a class 87 from a class 86. This eventualy became 87 101 Stephenson complete with the different roof arangement and was my entry in a loco building competition on the TVGR forum. The other shell was destined to become 86 101 Sir William A Stanier FRS. This loco was rebuilt in 1972 to test the electrical equipment and bogies for the new class 87 then under construction. The project never realy got past a painted bodyshell and during this peroid I decided to change the livery slightly to backdate it to an 86 0xx to run with my Heatherburn (Manchester) pullman train that was at the time under conversion. During this time I was offered a free set of 86 101 nameplates so 101 was then back on the build list. I have therefore decided to finish sir Bill in a version of the early BR blue livery with white cab windows and roof ( might change it to beige) and small warning panels but keep the blanked off headcode panels and headlights as the real sir Bill currently has. I might even fit the roof mounted fire extinguisher bottles. Anyway now on to the build..

As supplied the hornby 86 chassies has a big lip around the edges and at the front as seen here on the trailing end..



Now this needs removing as it gets in the way of fitting the led lighting. I also cut away the front section of floor like this..

(this is the powered end)



Now the reason for removing the section of floor is that the class 90 bogies are slightly longer than the underscale 86 ones...



 When I first tried fitting 90 bogies to an 86 chassies I ended up having to fit some brass bar to hold the bogie in place. This time I have removed the front section of floor and mounted it upside down slightly further forward to accomidate the longer bogie..



To strengthen the drag box the waste section of chassies that was removed for the led's was trimmed...



and then glued behind the buffer beam like..



Now the bogie sits under the loco properly and hopfully will run a lot better than 87 101!



I still have to aquire a class 90 trailing bogie so at the moment sir Bill has a standard 86 one at the other end. Note the difference in length..





Close up of the nameplate fitted..



The holes have already been drilled for the led lighting and will look great once the loco is DCC 'chipped'..



This is the reason for the livery choice...





 

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 Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2010 01:11 pm
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Like this, some good work there mate, look forward to the rest.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 14th, 2010 09:57 pm
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With the first of the two shows now done im iching to get on with this scratchbuild! I still need to obtain a class 90 trailing bogie but one daft idea that I just had whilst in the bath was fitting a working pantograph. I know that you can get european locos with this option but i've never seen it done on british outline so I think I will give it a go. As this loco will be destined for exhibition use only the class 90 motor bogie should provide sufficent power leaving plenty of space inside the body to fit the lifting mech. Now making a working pan shouldn't be that difficult the main problem is motorising it and then getting it to work with DCC control. Still if Jim can come up with a DCC coupler anything is possable! Any sugestions welcome unless it involves men with white coats! :lol:

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That would be the logical choice Marty but I dont think I can get one to work with DCC ?? If you could interface servos with DCC the posabilities would be endless. I have thought about using another class 86 bodyshell in the depot as a dummy and fitting a servo in that though.  

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Good news is that a class 90 trailing bogie has finaly come up on ebay and I have just won it!

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Picked up the class 90 bogies this morning from the sorting office so I might actualy get to do some modeling for myself for a change!

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 Posted: Sat May 1st, 2010 11:37 am
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A few piccys of sir bill with his new matching bogies fitted..










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Just relised that I forgot to copy a post to this thread so here's a couple of piccys taken a couple of weeks ago when I installed the led lights at one end..







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Sir Bill looks right now he has the right wheels,and i like the light setup,
bet it looks great running with those on .

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TBH Owen I havn't even tried the motor bogie yet although it was a new one that I got cheep off flee bay. Off out in a bit to see tornado down at shildon. I think mallard is down there as well ?

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 Posted: Sat May 1st, 2010 06:20 pm
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Very interesting thread. Must be very satisfying, pulling the loco to bits then adding all the detailed lights and find they actually work as expected. It is good to see a model of an electric powered railway too. I would not be brave enough to try and build all the overhead metal work such as you have done. It all looks superb. What kind of decoder are you thinking of using in Sir bill?

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Not sure yet although I will proberly need one with plenty of outputs as I want to fit a lifting pan.

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As most of you will be aware I will be operating the Heatherburn and Potters lane with push pull trains. So far I have a couple of DVT conversions started that need finishing off. The current fleet consists of a rail blue HST, a scotish region DBSO, a 310 emu style unit that runs with the pullman train and a mk4 dvt. Last night I started another conversion of a HST power car but this time with a difference!

Here's the starting point a hornby shell I got of ebay some three years ago ..





Next out came the surgeon's marker pen..



Humm I wonder where this is going.....







With the nose butchered a bit of milliput was needed..



After leaving overnight a bit of sanding and the distinctive cable grooves cut in with a slitting disc..





The model will be fitted with the led's before the light units are finished off..



The buffer beam takes shape..











Looking forward to upsetting the rivot counter's with this one !!!

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Work on the cab is progressing well...



I have decided to go the whole nine yards with this conversion so all the roof detail has been removed and the ribs on the roof will be extended to just behind the cab. The bodyside grills have also gone as well as the old guards door. I will be fitting new doors to the bodyside later. Had the class 89 become the loco of choice for the ecml/wcml we may have seen the DVT's looking somthing like this...

 

more later.

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Its good wtching you develop this Dave i assume you have to leave the milliput quite a few hours before you can work it?
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Im finding that the milliput can be shaped after about half an hour using an old lolly stick and some water. I did have a slight problem with a new layer of filler not adhearing to yesterdays work although some bostik soon sorted that one out !

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A bit more progress..











 

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Inspiring, Dave.  I'm getting a bit of an itch to do a G scale of an Aussie diesel after watching you and RJR.  :thumbs



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