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 Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 10:17 pm
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Thought I would start a new thread to post some of the rolling stock that im working on. So to start with here's todays 'works report'........

A while back I bought some old Lima mk2's off fleebay. As my railway is based on the WCML I thought it would be a good idea to feature some WCML rolling stock so today I made a start......

Take one mk2 coach....



Cut away the window frames......



Looking slightly diffrent....



Any ideas yet?......



How about a change of colour.......



Sorry this ones blured will get some better ones tomorrow.....



Apoligies to the rivet counters! The real pullman coaches only have six windows, recessed doors, etc but to the untrained eye they look quite convincing! Also the brake coach has a driving position making this a push/pull pullman rake. Well it's my railway..............;-)

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 Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 10:31 pm
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look fine to me, but Ive never seen the real thing !! do they have any wording / lettering on them if so how do you plan to do that ?

Only asking cos I need to do some loco numbers and being tight dont want to buy a full sheet of numbers from fox just to use 10 !

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 Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 10:52 pm
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Thanks John. The real coaches were painted in reverse blue grey with pullman in white standard br letering. As I've painted mine white I was thinking of going for the earler style of blue letering with some crests although I need to investergate as to where I can get the transfers from. Here's a link to some pics of the real coaches....

 http://jdsrailway-photos.fotopic.net/c871102.html

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 Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 11:01 pm
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 They look good Dave. When you get the transfers on they should pass for originals:thumbs:thumbs



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 Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 11:21 pm
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now you see em now they change,that was quick,i will bring mine up tomorrow??

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They do look good, Dave.  Neatness counts.



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i like these, i don't think we have a rivet counter on this forum (we would all be in trouble) you can't just say i had this and now i have this, we want the details. i am about to embark on stripping 2 class 56 and re painting and john is doing a 37 so any tips would be great.:doublethumb

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As promised here's a couple of better pics taken this morning. Today I will be finishing off these three and then converting another coach into a kitchen car. Should prove intresting!


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To my eye the conversion is definitely better than the original.



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 They look really smart:doublethumb:doublethumb



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Tip's! Ok Matt no problem.;-)

The conversion was simple enough the only hard part was taking the coaches apart! Be prepared for some broken plastic clips. First I removed the gangway connections using a small screwdriver. This has two clips at each side. Then I removed the underframe. This is held by three sets of plastic clips along each side of the coach and a plastic tab at each end. I eased out the plastic tabs first then using a small screwdriver again I levered between the body and underframe untill the underframe broke free. The roof and glazing are all one piece. Again this is held in place by some clips along the base and one at each end of the roof section. Once disassembled the window frames were cut away using a sharp knife. Also I removed the molded paint line but only at the ends around the doors. The body then had a coat of grey primer. As I couldn't get hold of a light grey colour I decided to use some modeling licence and spray mine white. I used domestic appliance gloss white as it was £1.99 for a big tin!! Next the rail blue was applied using a brush. Carn't say I was impressed with the railmatch paint as it seemed a bit watery. Needless to say it took about three coats! Getting the edges of the blue panel straight was made easel as I left the paint molding down the side of the coach. Once dry the window frames were picked out with some chrome paint then the inside of the frames were painted rail blue. As the original donor coaches were corridor stock the coaches now have no interior. To disguise the fact I will be adding some curtains to the windows. I have another coach that I will be converting to a catering coach. As the train is based 'loosely' on the Manchester Pullman I will be using a lot of 'modeling licence'! My excuse is as follows. In the early sixties when the heatherburn line was electrified a push/pull Pullman service was introduced. The coaches were built as a follow on order to the Manchester Pullmans. However the seating was increased by adding an extra bay and the brake coaches were fitted with a driving positing and were classified as DBPO (driving brake Pullman open). The coaches operated in fixed sets with modified class 86 locomotives, the control cables running the length of the train( similar to the original Edinburgh/Glasgow 27's).
As I take the next coach to bits I will post some pics showing the securing clips.;-)

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Transfers just been ordered from fox. Talking of transfers has given me an idea although I will post it somewhere else!;-)

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They stand up well to the originals, at least looking at the photos I've got. A very nice paint job. Domestic appliance gloss white? It looks the part to me. Don't think Railmatch would be too impressed.



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The kitchen car was coming along great untill the paint ran! So I had to rub it down and start again. On a more positive note the damaged cab on the DBPO has been rebuilt in the style of a 312 EMU! Here's a pic to prove it. The kitchen car is the one in the middle......


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Here's another unfinished project to do during the dark nights........



This started out as an unfinished hst shell and is being modified to a dvt. I have recently managed to get hold of the missing light lenses although I still have to fit the buffer beam!

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Looking the business.

I noticed the same thing about the railmatch colours, not just thin in consistancy but lacking colour leaving a transparant finish unless SEVERAL coats applied. Im sure someone with an airbrush would like this though.

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Im glad you said that John I thought it was just me! I must admitt that the paint available today isn't a patch on the paint available in the past. Even humbrol paint is watery. I remember when humbrol paint was so thick you could stand a matchstick up in it! Now it's all this eco rubbish except you end up using more paint than before resulting in extra paint tins for the bin. Enviromently friendly!

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Just thought of another one.... Lead free solder. Not as good as the 'propper' stuff!

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I have a friend who is a painter and decortor, he and his Dad have worked together for years, his Dad is in his mid 60s and is always moaning about "modern rubbish paint" and "the old stuff hasn't killed me yet"

I have often wondered why if you read the label on the new Dulux Once paint, it states the time to leave between coats ????? But i thought it did it in ONE coat hence the name !?!?!

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Dulux one coat. Dont even go there!! I got some Dulux weathershield paint to do the decking handrails. The cream on the metal insets has had about three coats although this stuff is one coat paint. The red was no better. How can they make weatherproof paint that washes out with water!! When I was off the other week I gave the handrails one coat of red then left it to dry. Then we had a shower and the paint washed off. I wouldn't care this stuff is expensive.

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