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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 08:59 pm
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Wow Perry, 1mm? When I try and cut pieces that size they just want to curl up and disappear!

I may have to go looking for a picture of you on here, you would have to be 3 feet tall, tiny fingers, and eyes like eagles to handle those. :mutley:mutley:mutley

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Three final laminates have been fabricated and the 51 small struts (3 x 17) cemented in place.



This took very little time as can be seen from the time between my posts. Please don't think I'm showing off; all I'm trying to show is that scratchbuilding in Plastikard (and probably other materials too) is a quick process.

Comments have been made about me having a 'special gift' and my so-called 'expertise'. I don't. The only way you can expect to become proficient at just about anything - scratchbuilding included - is to keep trying. Each time you do, results are better and are attained more quickly. GET YOUR PLASTIKARD OUT AND HAVE A GO!!!! :doublethumb Just DO IT and you will amaze yourself as to how easy it really is.

...and here's the finished installation of all five units:



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Wayne Williams wrote: Wow Perry, 1mm? When I try and cut pieces that size they just want to curl up and disappear!

I may have to go looking for a picture of you on here, you would have to be 3 feet tall, tiny fingers, and eyes like eagles to handle those. :mutley:mutley:mutley

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I'm six feet tall and weigh in the region of 14 stones (196 lbs), have hands like shovels and wear spectacles for reading. :thud

 I use tweezers (forceps) to handle small parts, or pick them up on the point of a sharp craft knife. ;-)

The 1mm x 1mm section is the size provided by 'Evergreen' in their styrene strip range. All I have do is cut it into 3.2mm lengths. :thumbs

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I'm six feet tall and weigh in the region of 14 stones (196 lbs), have hands like shovels

i did say sorry mate honest,

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Perry, that is really looking good. I know how frustrating it can be to get all those pieces aligned up to look the part. You can tell that you are correct, all it takes is practice. I can't wait to get started again at scratchbuilding, it's just that I'm finally getting something done on the layout to put the scratch built items in!

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Wayne Williams wrote: .......................I'm finally getting something done on the layout to put the scratch built items in!

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Lucky man! :doublethumb

Everytime I make a little progress on the layout that damn scratchbuilding bug bites me again.:thud:lol::lol::lol:

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Most of the structural detailing has been added to the upper half of the main wall. The top parts of the piers have been added, along with the window sills and arches.



I've left adding the plinths until later because I need to make and fit the doorways and bay windows. The windows are going to have to be put on hold until nearer the weekend because I don't have any suitable glazing material in stock. :oops: Everything I have is too thick or too thin. :???: I should be able to get some on Thursday afternoon.

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Your attention to detail and precise measurement and cutting continues to impress me Perry.
Try as I might to emulate your level of accuracy I tend to take short cuts to speed up the process hoping that too the Mark 1 eye any ... ah... discrepencies won't show up in N scale.
Unfortunately the macro function on the camera gives the game away.
Did you use a jig or measurements for the arch keystones? They look just right.
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Marty wrote: Your attention to detail and precise measurement and cutting continues to impress me Perry.
Try as I might to emulate your level of accuracy I tend to take short cuts to speed up the process hoping that too the Mark 1 eye any ... ah... discrepencies won't show up in N scale.
Unfortunately the macro function on the camera gives the game away.
Did you use a jig or measurements for the arch keystones? They look just right.
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Taking shortcuts is something I am reluctant to do. If I know something has been 'fudged' it never looks right to me. :???:

The arch keystones were cut and placed using the Mk.1 eyeball method, but having said that, I made three sets of keystones before I was satisfied with the result.

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Two plain side walls 45 mm wide have been fabricated from .040" plastikard and cemented in place, checking all was square.

Although the protoype has some small windows in the left-hand end, I decided not to include these as they will make the corner of the buidling too 'see-though'. I may decide to put some lights in this model and don't want light spilling out in that direction.

A 'floor' was fitted inside the structure to be level with the canopies. I cut this from .040" plastikard but as it is about 225mm long and only 45mm deep it was still very flexible. I cut another strip of .040" material about 8mm wide and glued it along one edge of the floor and perpendicular to it, thus giving me a nice strong right-angled section. Apart from stopping the floor bending, the upright piece also provided a good gluing area with which to attach it to the inside of the front wall.

The whole structure is now freestanding:



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Perry, now that that floor is in place, will you be addressing any drilling for interior lighting now or later? Forgive me if I missed anything on the thread but I can't recall your intentions :roll::roll:



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Perry, I'm still watching and enjoying (as ever) your build.

There's one thing, however, that I must know   ...   where did you get that pink plasticard :question:question  :lol::lol::lol:

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Perry wrote: The arch keystones were cut and placed using the Mk.1 eyeball method, but having said that, I made three sets of keystones before I was satisfied with the result.

Hmmm, I'm going to have to learn to chuck out the ones that don't look quite right.

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rector wrote: Perry, now that that floor is in place, will you be addressing any drilling for interior lighting now or later? Forgive me if I missed anything on the thread but I can't recall your intentions :roll::roll:

I will make a final decision on lighting when the build is more or less finished, Tim.

I don't envisage having to do much drilling because I can make some little light fittings up from scraps of plastikard and fix them where I want them at a late stage of the build. I will then have a chance to move the lights around to find the best effect before I fix them in place.

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Gwent Rail wrote: Perry, I'm still watching and enjoying (as ever) your build.

There's one thing, however, that I must know   ...   where did you get that pink plasticard :question:question  :lol::lol::lol:


It's special, Jeff. It goes with the decor of the room where I do my modelling, and of course it compliments my extensive wardrobe. :cool wink

The real reason it looks pink is because I'm a rubbish photographer who can't be bothered to faff around with the White Balance settings on my camera, of course.:oops: :roll:

Looks kinda nice though, don't you think?  :mutley:mutley:mutley

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Marty wrote: Perry wrote: The arch keystones were cut and placed using the Mk.1 eyeball method, but having said that, I made three sets of keystones before I was satisfied with the result.

Hmmm, I'm going to have to learn to chuck out the ones that don't look quite right.

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It does pay off, Marty.

I think I've mentioned before in previous scratchbuilding threads that I try never to use parts that are 'not quite right'. It usually only takes a few moments to re-make a part and the waste is negligible as the duff one goes in the bits box to be 'recycled'.

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Perry wrote: Gwent Rail wrote: Perry, I'm still watching and enjoying (as ever) your build.

There's one thing, however, that I must know   ...   where did you get that pink plasticard :question:question  :lol::lol::lol:


It's special, Jeff. It goes with the decor of the room where I do my modelling, and of course it compliments my extensive wardrobe. :cool wink

The real reason it looks pink is because I'm a rubbish photographer who can't be bothered to faff around with the White Balance settings on my camera, of course.:oops: :roll:

Looks kinda nice though, don't you think?  :mutley:mutley:mutley

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Well i quickly had a look in members gallery and i must say Perry, i have to wonder about this excuse of the camera setting sweety :mutley:mutley

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I'll let that go this time, Phill. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I took SWMBO to the Hospital today for a check up after her operation and they are happy with her. :Happy:Happy

More importantly, :shock: I got to the model shop for some supplies, so now I have no excuse for not getting on with the Co-op build.

Oh, hang on a minute, yes I do; they didn't have any pink Plastikard!!!!! :mutley:mutley

They did, however, have some .040" clear plastic sheet, just what I was after for the shop windows. I got a piece about A3 size for the princely sum of £2.99p. I wanted something reasonably rigid for the bay windows but some 2mm material I had in stock was way too heavy. This new stuff should be just the job.

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Now when Perry wrote this, I'll let that go this time, Phill. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:, i just can not for the life of me think what sweety is on about :mutley:mutley, sorry no more said ok swee i mean Perry :twisted::mutley:mutley


 

Great news Perry about SWMBO :doublethumb, load of your mind i expect and for your other half.

So can we get on with the CO-OP now, i mean its hard not having anything done for so long, i mean you spoilt us this last few weeks mate, so we expect it all the time. No hurry, shall we say 5 mins for some more updates. :mutley:mutley

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Perry wrote: Gwent Rail wrote: There's one thing, however, that I must know   ...   where did you get that pink plasticard :question:question  :lol::lol::lol:


It's special, Jeff. It goes with the decor of the room where I do my modelling, and of course it compliments my extensive wardrobe. :cool wink

 Looks kinda nice though, don't you think?  :mutley:mutley:mutley

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:shock::shock::shock::shock: It's all this scratchbuilding   ...   he's beginning to "bat for the other side" :eek::eek::eek: Soon it will be threads on cross-stiching and embroidery :exclam:exclam :It's a no no:It's a no no

"Looks kinda nice though" indeed  :brickwall:brickwall:brickwall :mutley

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