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 Posted: Wed Dec 17th, 2008 11:19 pm
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Actually, I wonder if it is a question of it being too tall. To my eye it looks as if the problem is more that the bottom layer of the model looks too thin. Another layer of plasticard on the lower section may do the trick.

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I think the problem is a combination of the top section being too tall and the bottom layer being too thin.

I'm currently working to correct this.

Thanks guys. Your constructive criticism is very much appreciated.

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Here is the altered tower in situ. I removed about 4mm in height and added a layer of plastikard to the base to thicken it up:



...and here's the prototype again:



I think it looks much better now. Thanks to all those who gave me unbiased feedback. It's one of the things that makes this forum so good. :cheers

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Disregarding the difference in the angles that the two shots were taken at, the proportions of the modelled tower look right with regard to the rest of the building, and that would be good enough for me. Yet another fine job nearing it's conclusion.



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Well, this is the first shot:-



 

& this is the second



looks a lot better, - good job Perry.

 

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I recon you've cracked it, Perry. Nice job with the adjustments, it looks the DBs now :exclam:exclam

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got to agree with all,much better,was always going to be iffy considering
the awkward angle of the photo shot.

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Just love the building, do you have by chance a drawing of the building.

 

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bickybtrains wrote: Just love the building, do you have by chance a drawing of the building.

 

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Not as such. I have a book containing a old photo or two - copyrighted of course, and I have the photographs that I have taken of the buidling as it stands today. Fortunately it's only a ten-minute walk from where I live so checking up on anything I may have missed is easy enough.

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Perry, that was well worth the effort in making that change.

There's that bug, biting me again! I do have my house all sketched up though.

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I totally agree, Wayne. The base section still appears fractionally too tall, but I had to allow for the thickness of the roof tiles that are currently being applied. It should look pretty spot-on in the end.

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As always a great build by the master :thud, when can we expect another one, infact i reckon you should scratchbuild the delivery truck to the store myself, easy enough i reckon :thumbs.

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phill wrote: As always a great build by the master :thud, when can we expect another one, infact i reckon you should scratchbuild the delivery truck to the store myself, easy enough i reckon :thumbs.

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Nah, too easy, Phill. :shock::shock::shock:

I was thing more along the lines of telephone boxes............ :hmm...........you know, those lovely little red ones with LOTS and LOTS of window glazing bars that must each work out to be, ooh, at least a couple of millimetres long. :thud

No, there will be no more scratchbuilds for a while after this one is finished. I want to get some wiring completed and some ballasting done on the layout next.

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Just caught up with this thread Perry. Its a great build, but i know that if you have an idea in your head of what it should look like it doesn't matter how good other people think it is, Perfectionism i think they call it. good luck its looking good
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Work is progressing steadily on tiling the roof. It's a lot of fun due to the many different angles and ridge lines involved, but it's starting to come together.

I apologise in advance for the lighting in this photo. Trying to get the angle of the lamp right to show uo white tiles on a white background was a little tricky!



The roof is being tiled using the same material and method I used on the Great Eastern Goods Shed project. It is very important to keep checking that the strips of tiles are cemented in place absolutely level and parallel to the ridge line and eaves line. It's very easy to go slightly low on one side and each slight error compounds the problem when you reach the ridge line. Bearing in mind that the actual 'tile' part of the strip is only 3mm deep and you can see how easy it is to lose a whole tile. The resulting effect looks pretty awful. Don't ask me how I know...........:oops::thud

As I have applied quite a lot of tiling this evening, I'm going to allow it to dry overnight. Tiling uses quite a lot of solvent and I have found it best not to apply all the tiling on a roof of this size in one session.

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When Perry gets it near enough he is not satisfied,:cool wink and works to get it perfect.

When he gets it perfect he says ah thats it ,thats near enough.



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Perry, what are those little "tabs" located near the bottom edge of the roof line, on the face of the building adjacent to the upper windows? I don't see them in your previous photos.

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They are the ends of the lead flashing strips that wrap around the buttresses. They will be at least partially concealed when all the work on the tiles and eaves has been finished.



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The front-facing elevation of the roof has been tiled up to the ridge line. Because of it's shape it was done in three basic sections; the centre part (between the gables) was completed first, then the side pieces.

I tackled the left hand section next and wasn't at all happy with the alignment when I got about half way up, so I removed the whole section and re-tiled it. I'm much happier with it now. The right-hand section went OK first time - thankfully. There were lots of angles to cut and different lengths of tiling strip to fit so there were no shortcuts. It's a slow, painstaking job, but the results are worth it.

I will finish the ends and the narrow section of reverse slope to the rear of the main ridge next, then the gables will need tiling.

I need to work fast though; I'm running out of embossed roof tile material and need to finish the job before that happens! :mutley:mutley:mutley

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Are you going to put lights in it as well Perry, just a thought, only take a little while to do i guess :roll:.

I bought a box of clear tree lights so i shall be working out how to wire those up at a lter date.

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