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 Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 08:54 pm
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I am currently in the pre-planning stage of what will be another scratchbuilt building for the town area of my layout.

The model will be based on a building in my home town that used to be a Co-op store many years ago. To my eyes, it's a beautiful building with some lovely fancy brick columns at the front. I have located some old images of what it used to look like and have discovered that, as is often the case, the main structure of the building has actually changed very little. It's just the details that have altered.

Here is the building as it is today (or was last week!):



I will be constructing a low-relief model based on this building but thought I would do things a little differently this time. I reckon you must all be getting pretty sick of watching me glue bits of plastic together, so what I thought I'd do is to go into more detail about how I tackle preparing the plans and less about the build itself.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 08:59 pm
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Lovely building,Perry.Looking forward to seeing how you tackle it!!!

Cheers,John.B.

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That's a very good idea, Perry, an insight into the planning stages would be good. However, that doesn't mean that you can get away with no posts covering the actual build   ...   you've got no chance my friend. :exclam:exclam  :thumbs:thumbs

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that is a building worthy of your talents,the idiots up here can only pull them down.
look forward to the build.
:cheers:thumbs:thumbs:lol::lol::lol::cool:

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Gwent Rail wrote: That's a very good idea, Perry, an insight into the planning stages would be good. However, that doesn't mean that you can get away with no posts covering the actual build   ...   you've got no chance my friend. :exclam:exclam  :thumbs:thumbs

Cheers Jeff. :cheers

Unfortunately my builds do have something of a habit of becoming marathons. :oops: I thought that by covering a different aspect of the building process, it might maintain the interest of our members and not bore them all to death.

I will happily show how the build is progressing from time to time, and I'll mention anything out of the ordinary that it throws at me, but I don't plan on doing a step-by-step report on it. It would be way too boring.:It's a no no

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Boring :It's a no no:It's a no no  Never  :exclam:exclam Well, not to me anyway.

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Perry, we'll leave it to you then. The idea of showing the preparations you do is an excellent one and I'm looking foward to it.

Just don't be suprised if you get pestered for more details when the actual build starts :exclam:exclam

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Perry, I think that this should not be an "either-or" thread, but a 'both-and." I'm looking forward to the marathon:thumbs



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rector wrote:
Perry, I think that this should not be an "either-or" thread, but a 'both-and." I'm looking forward to the marathon:thumbs

Well Said Tim, I totally agree. Perry, I just do not see where you think it is boring, If you had any idea how many times a day I check to see if you've posted anything, you would not think that.

Just remember Perry, I'm Still Learning Here. Plus, I'm thinking seriously about starting a house of my own, not as eloquent as yours, but just as challenging. Well maybe not quite. :cool wink

However, I do understand how much time it takes to post all of the info. It is Greatly Appreciated though. :doublethumb

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Now Perry boring is a horrible word and this word do's not fit :It's a no no into any of your scratchbuilds mate but we shall leave it up to you, just make sure your camera is at the ready for all the questions that we shall fire at you.

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Ok, I give in.  :roll:

I will include some of the build itself, but only to cover the more 'interesting bits' - and please don't say it's all interesting  :It's a no nobecause a lot of it will just be using techniques and methods that I've shown in detail before on other projects.

As you know, taking the photos, processing and uploading them and writing the associated posts all takes time - not that I mind doing it. The folks here are so appreciative that it is most enjoyable, but I would like time to work on my layout and even run some trains occasionally! :thumbs

Expect the first planning posts in the next few days. I'm busy making a little device that should prove helpful. All will be revealed soon. ;-)

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Wayne Williams wrote: .............I just do not see where you think it is boring.........
 

Thanks for your kind comments, Wayne. I sometimes think that my scratchbuild threads become way too long and involved. What I don't want to happen is that people get bored along the way because it is taking so long to get anywhere. The main idea behind these threads is to encourage other modellers to have a go at scratchbuilding, not to discourage them by making a job look such a mammoth task that it appears to be beyond their capabilities. As I've often said before - and it has been proven on this forum by several people - it may look difficult, but it isn't. All one needs to do is to try. :brickwall

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Great idea Perry. Could I ask you to include how you measure the prototypes where it's not possible to get on site please? I've a fairly good idea (eg counting bricks, using a standard door etc) but when you get to it, any advice would be appreciated.:thumbs

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Les wrote: Great idea Perry. Could I ask you to include how you measure the prototypes where it's not possible to get on site please? I've a fairly good idea (eg counting bricks, using a standard door etc) but when you get to it, any advice would be appreciated.:thumbs

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Exactly the direction I was intending to take this time, Les. :thumbs

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Great another one of Perry's masterclass's

Note to SWMBO, get a lot of Red Bull's in stock, this could be the longest yet.

:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb

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Alan wrote: Great another one of Perry's masterclass's

Note to SWMBO, get a lot of Red Bull's in stock, this could be the longest yet.

:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb

Not to me

Sit back and learn.


Blimey! Please don't give anyone the impression that I actually know what I'm doing. If only you knew......................:hmm

I sincerely hope this isn't the longest yet. That Goods Shed thread almost put me into therapy for a 12-month!

Anyway, I've nearly completed my 'Secret Weapon' so I'll give you a clue; it makes measuring buildings you are photographing a lot easier. :cool wink

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:hmmcould it be some kind of lazer type device, ie you shine a dot on the bottom and top of the building and it calculates the height or what ever ?

No wide of the mark i supose.

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Incredibly wide, Phill. Not that hi-tec, I'm afraid. Who do you think I am; James Bond?  :It's a no no

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The "secret weapon" - a 6ft pole marked with feet, placed next to the object, gives a point of reference - that is my "expert" thought. :cool:

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Sol wrote: The "secret weapon" - a 6ft pole marked with feet, placed next to the object, gives a point of reference - that is my "expert" thought. :cool:

If there was a prize, you would have won it! Spot on.

I'm making a six-foot measuring stick that folds in half. Open it out, prop it against the building or lay it on the ground and snap away with the camera. Result: instant scaled pictures.

I'll post a photo of the 'secret weapon' when the paint's dry. :doublethumb

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