Video Archive         Recent Topics      
YMR logo

You are here:  Your Model Railway Club > Model Railway Layouts. > Members Personal Layouts. > OO Scale - BINTON To bottom of page
                 

 Moderated by: Spurno Page:    1  2  3  Next Page Last Page  
Start New Topic Reply Printer Friendly

OO Scale - BINTON - Members Personal Layouts. - Model Railway Layouts. - Your Model Railway Club
AuthorPost
 Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 12:15 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 1st post
Bob K
Member


Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007
Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2759
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

I don't normally draw inspiration from Ikea, or any other large retail outlet, however, having just spent the last few weeks redecorating and assembling furniture I noticed a huge build up of expanded polystyrene (Styrofoam) sheets next to the bin. In fact I thought there would be enough to build a small base board. So instead of taking it to the recycling centre i started to hide it away in the garage. There were two sheets around 3ft square and loads of strips about 1" thick. 

In addition to the polystyrene, in my layout room I have loads of spare bits of track (mostly from old train sets) and bits of scenery that were either not used or kits that had not been built. I decided to build a layout with what I had available as spares and certainly it was not to cost more than a few pounds.

So with a big pot of copydex glue I set about constructing:



I had a pack of ceiling tiles left over from the construction of Middleton station and so these were overlaid on the board. I had to buy another pack to finish of the other side. I was concerned that the board would not be strong enough but once the tiles were on it became quite rigid. I still have to add more to build up the scenery and track bed. So with that and the backscene I hope it will be strong enough:



Next, and most fun of all was developing a track plan for a layout on a 4 x 4 square. I had a number of curved points which I had removed from an earlier layout and just could not incorporate them into my main layout, so these would become the basis for a passing loop and siding. So here is the final track plan, which will include a small station halt and a couple of sidings:



The back of the circle will be hidden by a back scene.

As for era and location. Initially I was going to do HO, US mid 1800s, but that would mean buying new stock and I already have a number of spare UK items. So after a lot of head scratching I have decided to go for late 50s, early 60s East of England Branch line. Not sure whether this will be DCC or DC yet, much more planning to do.

Bob(K) 

 

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 12:49 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 2nd post
Wayne Williams
Member


Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007
Location: Hudson, Florida USA
Posts: 2635
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

It just goes to show you, you should never go searching through the trash bin! :mutley:mutley:mutley

Wayne

(I'll be watching this one)



____________________
My Layout "The South Shore Line":
http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=509&forum_id=21
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 02:17 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 3rd post
georgejacksongenius
Kettle Watcher


Joined: Thu Feb 28th, 2008
Location: Hyde,Cheshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2400
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Bob,
     I've seen n gauge layouts built on polystyrene before,but not OO gauge.Good luck with it.It looks solid enough.....and its cetainly going to be very light and easily moveable!!!

Cheers,John.B.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 03:49 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 4th post
Bob K
Member


Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007
Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2759
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Thanks for the encouragement - I too hope it will be strong enough. I think it will when all the other bits are added.

I have been playing around with the bits of track to see if there are better options for the track plan. Having run a loco around the layout I see no real advantage in having a complete loop, so I went back to the drawing board (and my plans books) and found a terminus to fiddle yard plan that might fit the bill. With a bit of adaptation it fits on to the base board. The fiddle yard sits off scene at the edge. This could work. Here's a couple of pics to show what it might look like:





The styrene blocks show roughly where the backscene will run. There's room in there for the controller and point switches too.

Bob(K)

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 05:31 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 5th post
Christrerise
Former Member
 

Joined: 
Location:  
Posts: 
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

That's great Bob - ideal for just running models in as well!

 

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 03:58 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 6th post
Petermac
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Nr Bergerac, France
Posts: 16709
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

That's a great idea Bob - what came packed in "Styrofoam" - that's a pretty pricey product compared with polystyrene.

Not sure it would be worth buying the goods just to get the styrofoam !!!!



____________________
'Petermac
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 04:03 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 7th post
phill
Hello


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Lancing West Sussex, United Kingdom
Posts: 6496
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Like this layout, what a amazing idea to do this. Just go's to show what you can re-cycle, Bob will be proud. Look forward to this build.

Phill

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 04:49 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 8th post
Bob K
Member


Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007
Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2759
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Petermac wrote: That's a great idea Bob - what came packed in "Styrofoam" - that's a pretty pricey product compared with polystyrene.



Petermac

I thought Styrofoam was the US term for what I call expanded polystyrene, which is what this layout is made from - cheap and nasty I am afraid! It is probably me not understanding my plastics :oops:

I checked on line and I found this to explain my error:

"The word styrofoam is often used as a generic term for expanded polystyrene foam, such as disposable coffee cups, coolers or packaging material, which are typically white and are made of expanded polystyrene beads and are very different from Styrofoam"

I think you are referring to the true Styrofoam, which is extruded polystyrene and is normally blue in colour.

Bob(K)

 

 

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 05:14 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 9th post
Petermac
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Nr Bergerac, France
Posts: 16709
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Bob - you're right !! That's why I was a little surprised.

Styrofoam is (or was) a trade mark of the Dow Chemical Company who invented the stuff.  Depending on the grade and properties, it can be blue, green, pink or cream in colour.  It's, as you say, "extruded" polystyrene and is really pretty tough stuff. It has a very fine grain like a tiny honeycombe of cells.  It's also, much, much more expensive than expanded polystyrene.  For this reason alone, I doubt it would be used for packaging other than for very expensive goods.  Being harder, it's also not as "shock absorbing" as EPS.  If you can get hold of it, it  makes ideal formers for hills and the like - it cuts without the "bubbles" of EPS (expanded polystyrene) and will both file and sand. Glueing properties are the same because, essentially, it's the same stuff in a different form - a "no-no" with solvent type glues !!

In technical terms and for it's proper use, inch for inch, it's a far better insulant than EPS.

OK - lesson over - learn and inwardly digest - a test will follow on Friday !!!! :roll::roll::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Still - EPS is a great material and normally, for our purposes, it's free as you've proved. 



____________________
'Petermac
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 05:36 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 10th post
phill
Hello


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Lancing West Sussex, United Kingdom
Posts: 6496
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Well i am glad you 2 realised all this, i was just about to tell you both all about this stuff :roll:  but you beat me too it :lol:

Phill

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 06:08 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 11th post
Christrerise
Former Member
 

Joined: 
Location:  
Posts: 
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

That new track layout is very much like St Ives, even the same shape although obviously compressed!

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 07:36 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 12th post
Bob K
Member


Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007
Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2759
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Chris

Well spotted. I flicked through all my plans books and the only compact plan I could find that allows me to use all six of my spare curved points (5 shown so far) was St Ives in the Peco Plans book, however, it will not fit as is into a 4 x 4 space. I dropped a siding and changed the fiddle yard a fair bit. I will add a new spur, using the 6th curved point going in towards the centre of the layout to provide a goods siding.

A couple of test runs reveals that I could operate a two coach local service or DMU and some small freight trains. Up to 3 locos could also be accommodated. I have decided that this layout will be DCC.

Bob(K)

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 07:46 am
PMQuoteReply
link to this 13th post
Alan
Former Member
 

Joined: 
Location:  
Posts: 
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

I really like the last design that you have put down, lots of fun can be had with that little layout, and such a good idea for a small ( that will grow into a big ) project.

Just the sort of project to display at a show\ or magazine, to show others that you do not need a lot of space in which to build a layout. Really looking forward to following this as it GROWS.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 05:48 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 14th post
Bob K
Member


Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007
Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2759
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

A bit more work on the layout has been completed. I constructed a light frame to give the polystyrene a bit more rigidity and to provide an anchor for the back scenes. The base board is simply glued onto the frame:



Next I added the back scenes, which are made of 2mm MDF off cuts. The two on the sides are 12" high and the rear board is cut to allow access, as this is where the small fiddle yard will be. There will be another back scene, probably made from card which will sit in front of the fiddle yard. I also filled in the gaps between the tiles to give a smoother surface to the board:



 

I then rough painted the base board and back scenes, using left over paint. I had some earth, dark brown and a little bit of sky. There was not enough of the browns for the whole board, so the fiddle yard area is in dark brown. This does not matter as it will all be covered later with scenic material:





The next task will be to draw in the track plan, fix in place the dividing back scene and add some of the terrain at the rear.

Bob(K)

 

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 06:25 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 15th post
Petermac
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Nr Bergerac, France
Posts: 16709
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Looking good Novice.  Has the timber framing made the boards too heavy to move easily or is the lightweight advantage of the polystyrene still evident ?

Also - useful that you just happened to have "left-overs" of exactly the right colours !! :roll::roll::roll:



____________________
'Petermac
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 06:35 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 16th post
Alan
Former Member
 

Joined: 
Location:  
Posts: 
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Petermac wrote:
Also - useful that you just happened to have "left-overs" of exactly the right colours !! :roll::roll::roll:

That's because he used the correct colours before :pedal:pedal:pedal

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 07:43 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 17th post
Petermac
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Nr Bergerac, France
Posts: 16709
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



____________________
'Petermac
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 09:36 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 18th post
Bob K
Member


Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007
Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2759
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Petermac

It is starting to get quite bulky with the back scenes fitted and it is increasing in weight. I think when all the track is on and the scenery too it will not be too portable, although it has got to be lighter than chipboard. It is surprising just how unwieldy a 4'x 4' board is.

The paints are all the household water based type. The brown paints came from the Upton to Dunton layout and the blue was left over from the bathroom - it's actually a bit too blue and may have to be made lighter - got plenty of cheap white in the shed.

Bob(K)

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 09:43 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 19th post
Gwent Rail
Former Member
 

Joined: 
Location:  
Posts: 
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

This is turning into a fascinating build, Novice and inspirational for someone who hasn't got much room or wants to build a layout in a hurry.

Do you have a plan drawn up :question I ask because a plan of this layout with a short explaination would be an ideal entry into the layout ideas section. It could inspire new members / new modellers for years to come :exclam

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Oct 17th, 2008 08:09 am
PMQuoteReply
link to this 20th post
Bob K
Member


Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007
Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 2759
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Gwent Rail wrote: This is turning into a fascinating build, Novice and inspirational for someone who hasn't got much room or wants to build a layout in a hurry.

Do you have a plan drawn up :question I ask because a plan of this layout with a short explanation would be an ideal entry into the layout ideas section. It could inspire new members / new modellers for years to come :exclam


Jeff

I do have a rather scruffy plan. So to set the scene:



BINTON

Binton is a small market town in East Anglia which was connected to the railways in the late 1800s. The purpose of the line was to provide a route for fresh vegetables and cash crops, which are extensively grown in the surrounding area. In addition coal and other goods are brought in and there is a small coal yard by the station.

The railway is Great Eastern in flavour and Binton is a terminus station from the main line at Skipdale. Some 10 years after the line was laid to Binton, the railway company saw commercial gain by connecting the 10 mile branch out to the growing seaside town of Scrapby, which was booming from an influx of seasonal holidaymakers. Both Skipdale and Scrapby are represented by a twin track fiddle yard.

The setting is the late 1950's and the boom is coming to an end. More and more vegetables are being moved by road and Binton is on the decline. The DMU is beginning to take over from the steam passenger services and coal demand is falling away. The Binton line is becoming non viable and the eye of Dr Beeching will no doubt fall upon it in the near future.

My aim of this project is to produce a small (4x4')  layout at minimal cost, but with maximum operating potential. It will be DCC, will have electric operating points and signals and an effective and reliable uncoupling system to allow realistic shunting. So far the only thing I have bought has been glue, but I do have a stock of spare track, timber and paints which I have used. That said, if I had to buy everything so far the cost would have been around £10 for materials - obviously the track and rolling stock would have to be purchased, but you could get away with a DMU and a small tank loco, plus a few wagons.

Bob(K)

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

This is topic ID = 2863     Current time is 02:49 pm Page:    1  2  3  Next Page Last Page    
You are here:  Your Model Railway Club > Model Railway Layouts. > Members Personal Layouts. > OO Scale - BINTON
You can type a quick reply to this topic here. Click in the box below to begin.

Or to reply to an individual post, or to include images, attachments and formatted text,
click the Quote or Reply buttons on each post above.

To start a new topic in this forum, click the Start New Topic button below.
To start a new topic in a different forum, click the Forum Jump drop-down list below.
Start New Topic


Back to top of page

           
15 Most Recent Topics

Problems with this web site? Please contact the Webmaster.

All material submitted to this web site is the responsibility of the respective contributor. By submitting material to this web site you acknowledge that you accept full responsibility for the material submitted.
Unless stated otherwise, all the material displayed on this web site, including all text, photographs, drawings and other images, is copyright and the property of the respective contributor. Registered members are welcome to use it for their own personal non-commercial modelmaking purposes. It must not be reproduced or re-published elsewhere in any form, or used commercially, without first obtaining the owner's express permission.
The owner of this web site may edit, modify or remove any content at any time without giving notice or reason.    © 2008

                 

Recent Topics Back to top of page

Powered by UltraBB 1.15 Copyright © 2007-2011 by Jim Hale and Data 1 Systems. Page design copyright © 2008-2013 Martin Wynne. Photo gallery copyright © 2009 David Williams.