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 Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 06:55 am
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That ballasting does look good Larry and I'll agree with what Sol and Max have said about wetting agents.  It really does work well but, in my (out of date) experience, you do have to weather the ballast afterwards or the PVA can take on a sort of semi-gloss effect.

Re the stones - they look very different from what we get here in Europe - yours look more like gravel.  It is also often said here that "OO" gauge ballast is too coarse and many use "N" gauge for the job.  When I get around to doing mine, I'm going to experiment with some fine gravel used for swimming pool "sand" filters - just because I've got about 3cwts of the stuff spare !!!. :roll::roll:



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It's a good point, Peter, about the shine.  That is why I opt for at least 60% water, then there isn't any shine.  Early doors, I got a bit excited with the glue and it got quite white and shiny.  I found that respraying it with the wet water took the shine off, as PVA will disolve in water even after it has dried the first time.



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Wow
These have got to be the finest back-grounds I have seen they make whole thing appear to be an insight to a section of the past packed with atmosphere ,they really have got me thinking!



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 Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 11:48 am
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This problem with the size of ballast has been raised by a few of us before

The woodland scenics medium size that is generally sold for 00/H0 is scale wise to big

The small size sold fro N is a bit to small for 00/HO

IT may pay use to to start a thread to find a suitable everyday building material that is correct for the 00/HO size coarse sand is still to fine but i am wondering if the grit used in Block paving for filling gaps the kiln dried stuff may be usefull i will have to investigate unless someone has a bag in their garden.

IT would be worth looking at as a large tub of woodland scenics ballast is about £8 and that does not go that far.

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Brian,kiln dried block sand is finer than coarse, i have used seived grit sand
as ballast on my outfit, i think it looks ok.

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Thanks to all for the input on the ballast...I will continue posting my progress for comments.   Another consideration in addition to how the ballast looks when viewed at a normal distance (36 inches) in the railroad room, is how it photographs.  Close-up photos tend to over emphasise size of the ballast because of its richness in pattern, this with the contrast that may be created by directional lighting may require me to move to the N scale product.

 

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To get the right looking ballast, Iansa uses crushed Dolomite which he gets from his garden supplies depot.  He puts it through a series of sieves and uses the different sizes for different applications.  It looks brilliant.  It's sharp and the right colour.  I use Woodlands scenics medium grey blend ballast.  It's pretty close, but not as good as the Dolomite.



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Thanks for the suggestions on the glue and wet water...did the PVA 50/50 mix; pre-sprayed the ballast wit "Wet Water" and at this point the (12 hours latter) it's rock solid.  Looking forward to more work today and will add progress pictures as I proceed.





The track and ballast weathering yet to come.

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Don't forget Larry to give the rail surface & inside part of the rail head a GOOD clean as the water/glue tends to spread & make dead spots that you may not see but loco wheels will find.

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Larry, if that's Midwest roadbed, I found that it's helpful to run 100% white glue along the chamfers and coat them with ballast first.  PVA dries quickly, so by the time you have done the tops, it's set up.  I find it helps stop the rocks from washing away when you run the diluted glue in - sorry, I should have mentioned it before.



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Having great luck with the ballasting thanks to all the suggestions.  I can see the "wet water" pre-spray breaks the surface static of the glue the instant it contacts the ballast.  Looking forward to some progress this evening.

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Back at it after five months...layout still looking pretty good.                                                                                     Have a few changes in mind along with some reworking of the buildings. 

Tried my hand at up-loading to the new gallery and then to this page.  If this works you will be viewing my Pannier 4666.

 

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... and there she is. Not too long out of the shop but already with a coating of summer dust.
Nice to have you back Larry.



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well you have cracked it, lovely loco looking forward to the updates &progress
on your layout.

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A Wadebridge loco as well - very nice!

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The Pannier is a great loco, out of the box, factory weathered and running as smooth as silk.  Makes me wonder if I will ever go back to scratch building or kit built locos. 

After being gone so long from the 'Empire' I finding focus a little difficult...want to run trains, but I know that I must get back to track and ballast work first; this week...hopefully.

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I'm sure that a little testing is needed first :roll: before you get on with the job of ballasting:sad:

Good to see you back ;-)

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Have a restfull time testing Larry then start ballasting with long testing breaks

cheers Brian

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Adding the plastic kit building I recently weathered; shown in 'On Members Workbenches' section.




These three buildings represent my last arrangement for this corner of the layout....maybe.

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That's a very impressive "corner" Larry. :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs  Some cracking buldings there.



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