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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 11:39 pm
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Greetings from Bristol Wisconsin:

The operational track layout is a “U” shape “out-and-back” modified with two return loops located off the scenic portion of the layout (additionally there is a continuous loop for testing & break-in running).  This plan may be altered in the future depending on possible expansion to include another fiddle yard.



Track plan showing basic layout and power block.  Section #8 is the west end of the layout.

The layout is in the basement of my home and is approximately 16 X 24 feet contain in a partition room area.  There are two levels which were designed to accommodate photographic requirements, one scene back-drops another in overall views.

I have been greatly influence by John Allan’s (a famous US modeler) Gorre & Daphetid RR which was designed not only for operation, but also for photography.
 



Gorre & Daphetid, HO Scale 1/87th

It is my impression on comparing modeling styles that UK modelers choose to be more influenced by historical representation (accurate depiction) of scenes then U.S. modelers.

One of the things that I admire about so many of the UK modelers is the focus on track as a major modeling element.  The overall tendency in the USA is to focus firstly on operation…which usually creates a need for a lot more track. More track will mean in most instances that the track gets less attention as a model element. 





 Looking to the west end of the layout room. In the foreground will be the MPD.  I have been moving the turntable around from one place to another for the last year.  After developing a good operation plan I have finally be able to place the turntable in it's resting place...but not as pictured here.




View to the west end, the goods tranfer shed in the foreground is now replaced by part of the MPD facility.
 



Far west end of layout. In the upper left corner you can see the two tracks going to the fiddle yard and to their right the track cuts off to the return loop. 


 
The Mark I concept for the station design.


Hornby Skaledale out-of-the box models.
 

 
Pull back view of the Mark I concept design. The track on the right climbs up from the other side of the layout.  This will be covered by a section that will fit over the top with a scenic treatment.



Made this photo to see how the elements would stack up in B&W.  



Layout of Mark II concept.  Removed the Hornby Skaledale models and incorporated more urban looking builings as back-drop.



Buildings along back-side of layout with a mirrow at the end to add depth to the scene.




 



The buildings were built by my Dad twenty-five years ago for a diorama.

They are scratch built in H.O. scale (1:87) of printed paper and balsa wood. They are exact representation of buildings in Galena; Illinois were I once had a home.  Galena had its boom in the 1850’s as the lead mining capital of the US and the home of General U.S. Grant.




Mark II concept....the urban street scene with buildings from my Father's collection.





33006 Class Q1, work-horse of the branch.

Parting Shot - Our new additon!



My daughter Samantha with the latest addition to our horse family "Rio G" a miniature (what scale ?). 

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 Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 02:11 am
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Larry, thanks for the photos - you have plenty of work to do then - won't have for horsing around:roll:

 

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Larry

What a great layout you are building the track plan allows us to relate to the photos

You are right many uk modellers place representation over operations i would say operation systems like you token or card systems are used by a minority in this country. In fact some high profile modellers dont even care much for running trains even they just like building accurate layouts.

to me i like running trains so im a big kid really

I love how you have used your fathers buildings he has made and it certainly gives it the urban high street feel all you need is a few British advertising or shop front names and it will look like many British high streets.

If you need any local ideas about british towns landscapes or things you would find here now or the era you are modelling just ask amonst us from memory an knowledge we can help you there. I know if i were doing an American layout i would find it difficult to design a layout without local knowledge.

Are you dc or dcc Larry?

Lovely little horse my Izabel loved it

cheers Brian.W

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Larry,nice pics,like the idea of a mirror to add depth only seen it once before ,
very effective,i will be following you layout with interest.:cheers
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Great pics Larry and a wonderful space you have there that will keep you going for a good few years.

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A very promising layout in a cracking space, Larry. I guess most of us UK residents long for the larger accomodation you guys have.

I'm looking foward to watching it develop and as HP says, we will be very willing to supply any "local knowledge" you are short of.

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Excellent layout Larry and one to watch. :thumbs

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Greetings from Wisconsin:

 

Thanks for your comments.  As I previously stated I view this layout as a work-in-progress.  I am not sure that in the end what I have now will be the final out-come. 

 

I must admit that I do like to operate and since the entire track in fully functional I sometimes get distracted for weeks just running trains. 

 

The layout is truly therapy for me, either building or operating give me a lift and transports me from the days problems.

 

In developing my urban scene I will certainly need some help from fellow form members…I have already gain some important insights from viewing others work.  

 

The internet is without doubt an important tool for the long distance modeler.  I don’t think that I would have ever started down the road of UK modeling had this tool not been around.

 

The layout is conventional DC, mainly because as a solo operator I can only operate one train at a time.  My home location is such that the opportunity to have others join me is unlikely.

 

Regarding the use of mirrors, this is a technique I used on a previous layout with some success, and will document any installations to the layout for review. 

 

Posted below are two pictures to the 800X600 format.

 



Collect performs goods and passenger service on my Wells Branch.



33006 waiting to be fired.

 

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Hooray for the new forum. 800 x 600 pictures look great and we can all enjoy them now without the previous hassle.



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these are actually 800 x 329

good for loco shots

but you are right bob 800 wide is fine in this forum software

cheers

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What a cracking layout loved all the pictures ! Looking forward to seeing more developments, If you need any prototype pics speak up, I can do northen England Suburbs and countryside if thats what you need for inspiration.

Another thing I have noticed between US and UK models is that US modelers use the vertiacl space much more than we do which I like, I think t was browsing US layouts that inspired me to paint my sky line right over the shed ceiling !

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Great layout and space Larry.
I'm trying to combine both the UK attention to prototype and the american attention to operations, hoping it will give me the best of both worlds.... one day.
Thanks for showing us, certainly a layout to keep an eye on.
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HI Larry! Liked your pictures and your layout, wish I had that much room to build!
I am from Florida (and Michigan) so I can relate to what you are thinking. Keep the pictures coming and if I can help any, just holler!

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Greetings to all, and thanks for you comments:

Preparing to work on the area of the layout that will back-stop the MPD.  Have chosen several buildings that will be use to create atmosphere.  As I begin I will make photos of the work in progress.


Cold storage warehouse....



Cold storage warehouse and generic factory...

When in comes to UK modeller's I must say that Frank Dwyer's Borchester Marktet; Peter Denny's Buckingham and Jack Ray's Crechester for me combined both prototype operation in a very belivable settings.

I appreciate the offer from fellow form members to help me Britainize's my scenes.  I wish now that back in the 1970's when I made frequent visits to the UK to attend vintage car events I would have made more pictures the town-scapes (obsessed then with Bentleys - and any British motorcycle built before WWII).

South Shore Line

I was especially interested in hearing from Wayne, and then viewing his layout.

It was my privilege to have been sponsored by Sam Insull, Jr. into the Bentley Owners Club group here in the USA.  Spent many an evening at the "Red Star Inn" in Chicago having a pint and listing to the history of the Midland Electric Company...and the Chicago Milwaukee and North Shore Line...this along with details of the great South Shore Line.  



Little Joe coming out of Gary, Indiana



Little Joe takes the siding for the Chicago bound passenger train.



O-Scale model of the South Bend bound train from Michigan City (built from Russ Briggs brass etch kits).



The 4X5 inch Ektachrome film from which the B&W print was originally made.  I built a small diorama for the purpose of making photos of North Shore Line; South Shore Line and the Aroura & Elgin models.

Hope you all don't mind the side trip down the Insull lines.

Regards,

 



 


 


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I enjoyed every bit of it, Larry!

Your layout will be a beauty too. Kadee couplings and magnet noted. Fun to use, aren't they?

Mike

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Are the buildings you are using the large concrete industrial one and the windowed brick one next to it bought kits? they are extremely good and perfect for an industrial railway scene.

I think you could use those on any geographical layout as they are good perhaps one could add a few local extra details to localise them if needed.

The south shore line photos were great to see thanks

cheers Brian.W

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Greetings from the milking barn:

The factory is an old issue Kibri kit and the cold storage a kit-bashed Walthers kit....



This building is a Walthers kit, built as per instructions...needs to have a British Railway sign replace the Railway Express sign.

I like these kits and have several on the shelves with kit-bashing projects in mind for the layout.  I've never mastered rural scene modelling...urban modeling is a good solution for me. 

I compliment the "Webmaster" on a site that seems to be near perfection.  The change in the background color from green to buff has made navigation for "us old folks" very easy. 

The home page is excellent and posting to the site hs been made very simple for those of us who are not "Tech-no's"....thanks.

Regards to all...

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What a great thread you have created here, Larry!  A good combination of photos and ideas.  I'm going to enjoy following your layout with interest :thumbs

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Larry,
Thanks for the heads up on this thread. I will be keeping an I on it in the future now. I rode the "South Shore" to Chicago (from South Bend, Indiana) on my way to the Navy. Guess it will always be something special for me. That's why, when I decide to get into this hobby, I picked the South Shore. Plus it ran about 300 yards, behind my home where I grew up. Always used to go back there and watch it go by.
I won't be setting up my layout as the Electric South Shore, not sure I could do the wire bit. So it will be diesel for now anyway.
I like what you have done, wish I had something to show you!

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Hi Larry

Great space and an even better layout, I know the bigger the layout the more time it takes but see your layout and the area that it takes up is fantastic, we all long to be able to have trains as long as you can, and the track plan, is very good.

I have seen Walthers buildings before and often thought about trying them, are they hard to build, because they always look good finished, and the larger warehouse kit looks very good.

Looking forward to seeing more of the layout as it grows.

I have not shown my family the image of your pony as I would not get onto this forum again, they would be looking at every thread trying to find more pony's.

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