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i am starting a workbench thread as i have a number of small projects on the go. my first one is a couple of RATIO lineside huts. they are easy to put together. the only problem i found was finding a photo for the colouring, the only one i could find is the ratio model :? i done some experimenting and ended up using a colour called mushroom :shock: this was a tester pot. this is also the first time i have tried an airbrush on a model. comments welcome both good or bad













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The colour looks very good to me, Matt. I like 'em! Always wanted some of those.

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Looks great Matt - colour looks spot on to me. The textured effect looks great as well.

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Yeah i like the colour etc but there again i am not sure about the purple bit of it. Was that on the railway then?.
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Just needs a few discarded needles, empty white lightning bottles and an upturned shopping trolley :lol:

Reckon they are pretty good Matt, there is a slight purplish hue to some parts of it, perhaps a grey wash might add to it. Great texture though and I love the graffiti.

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First time you have used an airbrush!
looks like you are an expert already!

Joking apart, those huts are a really nice job. The colour and texture are great. The graffiti adds realisim to the scene too.

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I like them, Matt, but as Mike said, I'd tone down just a little with a very thin grey (brush) wash.

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I think they look the part and you have captured the concrete effect well - which is not easy to get right. The graffiti is neatly applied too.

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you seem to have mastered the air brush Matt,a very nice job, now all you need is practise there are lots you can do with that gear.
especialy weathering.
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With all the experts now on this forum, I will not have to build buildings or trees or whatever - I mean the rest of us will be able to purchase them at a good discount price :?:

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Very nice Matt.

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picked up somw sealion wagons from hattons at 10 quid each. got 7 to weather, had a go at the 1st one so comments welcome.

first a real wagon

 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



this has a heavy weathering and the other wagons will vary.

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Nicely done, and realistic. Did you use acrylics?

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Very nicely done :smile:did you use an airbrush ?

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I like it a lot. Looks the goods to me.

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Very nicely weathered , Matt.

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Looks good to me Matt, a little more grime on the truck perhaps.

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Expertly done Matt. Not being too au fait with modern railways can anyone tell me what "sealion" relates too.:???:

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yes i used burnt sienna and i think it was burnt umber mixed together, these were watered down to about 70% water 30% paint. i then used a good sized brush and washed this over the wagon. i then used a tissues to take away surplus. this was done 3 times to build up the rust.

Diesel

yes the bogies and lower part of the wagon were done with an airbrush. apart from the hut above this is the first time i have done a kit(only scenery before). i like the airbrush and the effect you can get, it is just getting that consistancy of the paint right when mixing. i used railmatch underframe first then underframe dirt. i think they look a bit uni formal, i have just done a second wagon (will post pics) and added brake dust to the bogies and then sprayed underframe dirt. i think they look better.

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Good question (i hope chris will jump in at this point) :oops::oops: what sealion relates to i do not know, you get sealion, seacow and even a dogfish. i presume it is just different variant of a hopper wagon. like you get class 37 then class 37. i may be wrong but they are nice detailed wagons.

 

 

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Top job on that wagon,Matt.It looks the dog's doo-dahs!It'll look great with a few more of its friends in varying degrees of rustiness on a nice long train.

Cheers,John.B.

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Ah, the old sea life codes!

The origins are actually not known, it just sort of always happened and nobody knows who started it.  It is believed to have originated with the GWR has a method of keeping telegraph messages short by having certain code words that everybody understood the meaning of.

CAPE and PINE being two well known examples.

There are actually many many different wagons names and the practice was carried on under BR mainly on the departmental stock which had many types.

Some of the wagons can look very similar but it would be vital for the staff to know if they had sealions or seacows, or even whales, in their consist.  There were dogfish, catfish, turbots, sea-urchins, starfish, salmon, sharks, sturgeon, halibut, stingray etc.  I have managed to find a fairly complete list below for interest!



 

OK - forget that, for some reason what looked like a nice neat table came out as total blurb when I saved the message.  If you are interested try this link instead: -

http://www.btinternet.com/~second_engineering/fishkinds_and_tops.htm

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Ah Matt you were right - Chris to the rescue eh?

This gives the local fish train a whole new meaning.:lol:

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i knew of a couple but didn't think that many existed:shock: someone thinking of a layout with a twist can make one and call it the ark and collect 2 of each wagon:cool: since my last post i have managed to complete the rake of wagons:cool::cool: i hope i have managed to capture the feel of a well worked rake.  the lucky loco in the background is a Limited edtion class 37, 37425 "Pride of the valleys" and will be the power horse pulling the rake. the wagons will have ballast added once my fiddle yard is complete so i cut down on handling. i have taken a couple of pictures of the rake then 2 pics of each wagon, 1 either side.  i have a 37$post_text in blue so i have to decide what type of wagon it will pull, comments please.

chris i knew you would come to the rescue;-) i wasn't far of the mark.

 



 






 



 



 



 



 



 



 

 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 

lots of pics i know:???:

as per the norm comments welcome;-)

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They're all very impressive, Matt.
I wish they were mine.
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Matt i pass the local marshalling yard often,yours look just the same as the protos i see there !great job.
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Only problem I can see Matt is that when your missus finds out you haven't named a wagon after her too :evil::evil::evil: you'll be sleeping in the layout room for a while. :lol::lol::lol:
Fantastic weathering job, you can be proud of that lot. :cool:
cheers

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We  send our backscenes to MikeC to paint & now wagons to Matt for weathering.

First lot will be posted today.:razz:

 

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Looking great Matt!

As a matter of interest the method of working these wagons during a ballast drop is that the guys on the relevant wagon shine a light to the driver who then proceeds at walking pace. They can then open the bay doors and the ballast starts to drop. When they have finished they close the doors and extinguish the light, this being the signal to the driver to stop.

Sometimes if the light fails or if it is very foggy and the driver loses sight of the light he will stop before they have closed the doors and then you end up with tons of ballast piled up around the wagon and the only way to clear it is to dig it all by hand! If it happens while the wagons are still fairly full you are in for a very long night...

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They look very realistic. You have captured the colours just right and applied the weathering perfectly. An excellent result.

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Work of genius,Matt.Especially like the graffitied ones...very prototypical.I wish I had your weathering skills.Great stuff!!

cheers,John.B.

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Excellent work,
Modern image is not my scene but the weathering is brilliant.
Well impressed!

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I will also say exellent work just got to weather that 37 now to the same standard :smile:

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Excellent as per norm mate.

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Superb work there Matt, might have to get myself an airbrush (well I can add it to the list of things I need to get:roll:)

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i would recommend an airbrush to everyone. i am crap at painting and arty stuff. the airbrush makes it a lot easier as you build the paint up in layers.  i enjoyed doing these and i am getting the mix for the airbrush better which can sometimes be annoying. i my airbrush i push down for air and back for paint, you have a screw at the back that  you can adjust for the amount of paint you want to release.  for the price of a good loco you can get a decent airbrush and compressor.

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Great shots Matt - just like the real thing.

Re the paints, you said for the huts you used "tester pots" I think it was, are these ordinary domestic colours or the "Testor" railway paints?  Just wondered if household acrylics were the same as artists acrylics - if they are, you could weather the whole network from 1 small try-out sample tin !! :roll::roll:

I've got an unused old Humbrol cheapie airbrush - might dig it out and give it a try if it's so easy !! :roll:

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Petermac,if it is one of those plastic ones with an air can ok for practise
but very limited so dont expect too much,i speak from experience as i have one,
had to buy a proper job myself. still not expensive,about £40 inc compreessor.
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i would go for the compressor, i have heard bad things about the can. with the compressor you can play about with the pressure to get the best results depending on the type of paint. it was recommended on many sites on the net....

go for a gravity fed brush (paint reservoir on top) and a two action brush, push down for air and back for paint.  it also says you should buy the best brush your pocket will allow.

the tester pots i used are from b&q, they are normal emulsion tester pots and come in umpteen different colours. the colour i used was called mushroom.

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Matt wrote: i would go for the compressor, i have heard bad things about the can. with the compressor you can play about with the pressure to get the best results depending on the type of paint. it was recommended on many sites on the net....

go for a gravity fed brush (paint reservoir on top) and a two action brush, push down for air and back for paint.  it also says you should buy the best brush your pocket will allow.

the tester pots i used are from b&q, they are normal emulsion tester pots and come in umpteen different colours. the colour i used was called mushroom.

Very interesting Matt,
Can you tell us what you use for thinners? I understand that water is not suitable even though they are water based paints.
I have only ever used ennamels and then not often as for the small amount of painting I do and the cleaning after isn't worth the hassle.
However if all I need is water to clean the brush out then that would encourage me to use it a lot more.

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owen69 wrote: Petermac,if it is one of those plastic ones with an air can ok for practise
but very limited so dont expect too much,i speak from experience as i have one,
had to buy a proper job myself. still not expensive,about £40 inc compreessor.
:roll::lol::lol::lol::cool:


Yes Owen - it is one of the plastic ones - I think about £15 many years ago.  I've never used it but had read somewhere that a workshop type compressor could easily be used provided you could limit the pressure. Also I understand, it's necessary to fit an air filter in line to remove the moisture before spraying.   I've got a garage compressor but no filter etc.   Although I've seen the large aerosol air cans, they've always struck me as being very expensive for just compressed air.

I'll have a look at what's available in the spraygun field but not prepared to spend too much just in case I foul it all up. :roll::???:

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Petermac,have a look at this site http://www.everythingairbrush.com i got an AB-128 precision double action gun for £19 its like holding a pen.
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Nice one Owen. I've put that in the Equipment Index. Cheers.

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i get my stuff from everything airbrush,

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for water based paints i use water, it takes a bit of experimenting getting the mix right. i use about 20% water. then adjust the pressure, when you first start with the airbrush it does take some time to get the paint coming out right but after a bit of time like everything it becomes easier. when cleaning i just use warm water and put my finger over the nozzle to send the air backwards cleaning the inside.

when using enamels i use normal box standard white spirit, 2L bottle same as above with mixing but the cleaning i use white spirit and a stiff paint brush. i should invest in some mixing fluid and see if they improve the results.

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THE CLASS 37 with a bit of dirt:cool:

 

got round to doing the 37 last night to complete the ballast train. any comments good or bad fire away. this was my first loco weathering and it was a bit scary turning the airbrush to a limeted edition loco:???: it is very limeted now:D

first shots show the loco before

 



 



 



 



now turn the clock forward a few years and after a heavy days work

 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 

as i said  before if you want a how to just ask and i will do a thread in the weathering section. or any questions just ask here;-)

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Matt your dirt weathering has come out very well its more dirtier than i like them but each to their own really. i must admit i am tempted to have a go with the airbrush i have a revell one nothing special but i do have a compressor i use with my nail gun i assume you can turn down the pressure.

i noticed you have remembered the windscreen wiper marks did you use a cotton bud or something?

You have not put on the 2 pride of valley nameplates yet so you will have to give them a quick squirt when you have fixed them

I have the same loco myself

A great job Matt giving us all incentive to have a go

cheers Brian.w

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Matt,you brave man ! turned out well tho,nice job.

as for mixes i read somewhere that you can use white spirit with acrylics +emulsion
it helps the paint dry better, i will try to find the article cos i might be wrong.

Brianw,you compressor will be fine,you adjust the air at the gun,but i would recomend a moisture trap in the line.
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Matt, wasn't it you who posted on the old forum that he was looking for a dvd that showed you how to use an airbrush? If so, did you find one?

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Matt, Les for vids or dvds on airbrushing have a look here,
 
http://www.howtoairbrush.com/

http://www.airbrushvideos.com/

i am not recomending anything just saying look,there may be better out there ok.
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the windows are sprayed then i use a cocktail stick dipped in white spirits to get the window wiper marks. i done the outline with the point then broke the stick and done the centre. i was thinking of doing graffiti this way. paint the graffiti colour then cover with the same colour as the model say BR BLUE then before completely dry remove the BR BLUE leaving the yellow underneath. you can get a more defined edge with a cocktail stick than a brush.

owen

i will try the emulsion and white spirit when i use emulsion again. i have checked out that site and had a read and ii will go back for another:cool:

Les

yes i was asking about a dvd, i never did find one that covered what i wanted. i just read about it then started doing scenery then clouds then some wagons and now this 37. scenery is a good way to start i found. it doesn't matter if you make a mistake:lol: try some track ballast first or a scenic are before laying grass. i found it good for the mortar in walls for a base layer as the paint is blown into the cracks, then a final grime coat with the wall upside down at 45 degrees so you get a shadow effect.

 

 

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Owen I'm sure all those interested in weathering would appreciate a how-to, I know I would.

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Matt do you have the wheels turning when spraying the dirt as i have seem quite a number of weathered locos that look great untill they run because only the exposed wheel when  spraying got sprayed so it looks strange when it runs?

cheers Brian.W

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i have blue 37\ 0 that is next on the workbench. i will do a how to, i wouldn't say a how to more the way i do it:lol: as i am sure things i do can be done better.

brian

good point about the wheels, i never thought of that:???: with the sealion wagons i removed the bogies and pushed them along whilst spraying. the 37 the thought never crossed my mind. i have checked since reading your post and the wheels are hardly visible so you can't see any patches. i think with other locos like a warship this could be a problem.  maybe using a third hand holding wires from the controller onto the wheels would solve this.

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I can remember about a year or so ago a chap weathered his steam loco it looked smart until he run it you coud then see lines of plain black on wheel spokes where the spray had not gone because the wheels wernt turning when he did it.

cheers Brian.W

 

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Great job on the loco,Matt.Very convincing...that's going to go great with your rake of weathered wagons,you clever devil!:mrgreen:

Cheers,John.B.

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Robert wrote: Owen I'm sure all those interested in weathering would appreciate a how-to, I know I would.
Bob - you beat me to it !! :???::???:  I was going to ask Matt to give us a "How I did it" before I spend the housekeeping on an airbrush. :roll:

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owen69 wrote: Petermac,have a look at this site http://www.everythingairbrush.com i got an AB-128 precision double action gun for £19 its like holding a pen.
;-):lol::lol::cool:

Thanks Owen - a very comprehensive site - my cheque/card will soon be winging it's way to them provided I can persuade SWMBO that it will also paint walls !!! :roll::roll::roll:

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i found these on fleebay

this one

and this

and with this one you can keep the missus happy

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Matt I reckon that looks really good! Looking forward to the next one.

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this one

and this

and with this one you can keep the missus happy



Methinks..........Hmmmm.... I have a birthday coming up.:twisted:

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Bob,members,et al, a how to on useing an airbrush i can do,as for weathering i have never tried it so must leave that to those that have,
there are so many techniques it is really a matter of practise on scrap card or board
one tip i can give is test the mix on glass,if it goes on that it will do go on any surface.
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owen69 wrote:  a how to on useing an airbrush i can do,

Offer accepted Owen, many thanks.:D:D:D:D

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Owen - don't waste valuable time asking - just do it !!! :cool:

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i  offered to do a how to use an airbrush,well i dont need to,in the index under A is
the very good lesson site i used myself, please try it yourselves,much better than i can show you!!
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i also mentioned the use of white spirit with acrylics+emulsions,
the index as that article in it too.

note to all please USE THE INDEX Bob put it there for us all !!
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owen69 wrote: i also mentioned the use of white spirit with acrylics+emulsions,
the index as that article in it too.

note to all please USE THE INDEX Bob put it there for us all !!
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Les wrote: Not so Owen, we were just responding to your offer. :sad:

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yes i know Les, i am just as bad i forgot the index too.
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done a quick video of the 37 with the rake of sealion wagons. the clouds in the background are done with an airbrush and i would never be able to achieve this with a brush. the vid is a bit blurry close up but this my camera struggling with focus.


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Nice to see the loco and sealions running you need a shark Guards van at the back now

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Matt that was really good liked the sound too,execelant.
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Matt -that looks great.  Love the slow running - a real treat rather than seeing them galloping round the track like a mad thing.  Is that because it's DCC or is it just the ability of the loco ?

Also - great clouds - airbrush her I come !!! :roll::roll:

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Brilliant stuff,Matt.....and thats from someone who's a died-in-the-wool steam fanatic.
Once you've got your scenery done,I think its going to be hard to distinguish from the prototype!

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Petermac wrote: Matt -that looks great.  Love the slow running - a real treat rather than seeing them galloping round the track like a mad thing.  Is that because it's DCC or is it just the ability of the loco ?

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Petermac, from my experience with diesels that have good mechanisms like most modern units, a good DC controller works just as well as DCC, it is just that DCC offers more than just slow running  such as lights when stationary & sound.

I do think DCC is better for steam as the mechanics are different.

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Sol wrote: Petermac wrote: Matt -that looks great.  Love the slow running - a real treat rather than seeing them galloping round the track like a mad thing.  Is that because it's DCC or is it just the ability of the loco ?

....


Petermac, from my experience with diesels that have good mechanisms like most modern units, a good DC controller works just as well as DCC, it is just that DCC offers more than just slow running  such as lights when stationary & sound.

I do think DCC is better for steam as the mechanics are different.

Thanks Sol - good job my stock is mainly steam :roll: although, as I'm doing end of steam/early diesel and have a cross-breed of DC / DCC, I'm going to have to learn how to chip the DC ones !!:shock::shock:

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thanks for the comments

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since you mentioned the wheels and spraying i have noticed a couple of patches that need a touch up:oops: i thought they were ok but turned all paranoid about the wheels:D. you mentioned a brake van, would they have a brake van? if so what type? i wouldn't want an incomplete rake as i would feel something is missing.

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i use lenz silver decoders which i prefer over the cheaper hornby decoders. these run excellent at slow speeds and also have back EMF which keeps the loco at the same speed up and down hills. they also are packed with features like setting acceleration and deceleration distance. check out the speed steps thread in DCC.

i have now done my 37\ 0 and a rake of V tanks so i will take some pics later. would Vtanks carry a brake van?

 

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One or two of these should do the trick!  Either one in the middle or one at each end is the usual practice.

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Thanks all, i shall order some when you get them in chris. i weathered my blue 37 without the drastic dirt i like so much:Happy

 



 



 



 



 



i think the body is wonky:hmm

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Sure you aint had one to many and its the track Matt :lol:

Look good thou mate.

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Very effective weathering, they really look like they are at work on your line as do your wagons.

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Hi Matt

Really like your style of weathering, the wagons are one of the best I have ever seen, and the first 37, I feel is the best of the two.

Great just great.

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thanks for all the comments:doublethumb

 

i am about to embark on my biggest project yet:shock: this will be new ground for me so i will be asking lots of questions. now my 37's, ballast wagons and V tanks are done i am running short of diesels to play with. i will be ordering the shark wagons from chris to complete the rakes.

my next project

i will take 2x hornby class 56

hornby class 56

and re number and respray to make 2x large logo class 56

56048

and

56108

WHY

i enjoyed the weathering project and now want to to take this a stage further. once these are done each loco will be one of a kind and nobody will have that model. once i completed my 37's i looked at them and thought i have brought them to life and i think that is what this hobby is about:cool wink

so now for the questions, i have not jumped into this blind and have done some research, but i find on other forums people just want to show what they have done rather than explain what they have done.

1, what substance would you use to remove the paint and what method? (on other forums people seem to either rub or soak using different methods)

2, what primer would you use and what colour? (  i have an airbrush) ( precision paint do red, grey and white primer. these sell at £13, are they any different than the primer you get at halfords for car body work which sells for £5 ?)

3, how would you remove the numbers or would you do this the same time you remove the paint?

4, how would you deal with the pipe work at the front of the 56?( would you tape it, maskol it or remove it?)

5, any tips?

 

 

 

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When you have the answers to those questions Matt perhaps you could let me know - I have all that to come!

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Hi Matt

I have not used a primer such as one from Halfords for spraying a plastic loco body, but I do seem to remember reading or seeing in a mag somebody using one with sucess.

Can you take the body off to spray which would help with not masking the underframe.

 

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Matt - I seem to remember reading somewhere that one of those fibre-glass pens was good to get the numbers off.  A gentle scrub would also give something for the primer to grip - gently,  mind you !!

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you can learn from my mistakes:roll: i am sure i will have loads.

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yes you can remove the underframe and i hope the windows, this will help with masking. the pipes at the front of the loco i will have a play with to see if they can be removed. my missus raised an eyebrow when i mentioned buying 2 new locos and then ripping them to bits and re spraying:hmm so i am trying to keep the cost down. if i was to buy the precision paint primer for £13 and it is enougth to do 4 or 5 locos then great but i don't want to spend that money and only do 1 or 2 locos.

Petermac

i have a fibreglass pen, i will give it a go:cool wink i normally use this to remove lettering and stressing my rolling stock so i think a softly softly approach is called for.

 

i have a warship that has a missing buffer, it took the plunge on my elevated track:thud this will be my test loco for any work needed to be done:mrgreen: it will be dedicated to pulling my track cleaning machine round so any mistakes will not be noticed with a big brass tanker behind it:cheers

i could use them nasty green GWR kettle things to practice on but they will be saved until i am in a destructive mood:mutley

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The suggestion about using a fibreglass pen.  I'd be grateful for more info.  What sort of pen is this, and what is its more common use?

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See the Index of Equipment Tim. Fibreglass Pen.

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the fibreglass pen is used for cleaning electrical circuits, it is like them pencil pens you get when you twist the end the fibre pokes out the bottom. it is about 3 or 4mm thick and is nasty when it get in your skin.

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Matt,you can use primer from halfords or any where else,
yes a fibre glass pen will remove any letters/numbers just dont overdo it they
can cut into plastic.
i have an article in a mag i will dig it out and let you have more info.
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Matt,the article is in the march issuue of hornby mag,
it recomends T-cut on a cotton bud for removing name & numbers use a circular motion,also covers weathering but you dont need that.!!!
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Matt wrote: ...and is nasty when it get in your skin.


Seriously nasty, if you have not experienced this be warned.

I keep the vacuum cleaner handy when I am using the fibreglass pen and vacuum up the splinters of fibreglass IMMEDIATELY I have finished, or even sometimes during, rubbing with the pen.

cheers

 

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owen69 wrote: Matt,the article is in the march issuue of hornby mag,
it recomends T-cut on a cotton bud for removing name & numbers use a circular motion,also covers weathering but you dont need that.!!!
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I knew that I had seen it somewhere, just my brain could not remember where:oops:

Matt looking forward to watching your progress

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thanks for that, i have a bottle of Tcut stashed away so i will dig this out. i remember the article and i should of remembered about the Tcut.

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i found this article which has covered a couple of questions i had, quite a good read

from another forum

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a quick question this one, what is Gouache ?

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Matt wrote: a quick question this one, what is Gouache ?

Matt - further to a reply from MikeC - it's a "posh" name for watercolour paint !

I asked exactly that question in a thread - I'll have a look for it and put in the link - if I find it. :roll:

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Hope this works !!!!

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=2407&forum_id=58&page=4

See post No 66. :cool wink

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Found you Matt. Gouache is paint made from egg whites. Max

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...and since we are on the subject of Gouache, it turns out to be the paint I have been using on the Pentrecourt Halt diorama all along.
I thought that the little tubes were acrylic!
I have now gone out and bought some little tubes of acrylic and a big tube of white and one of black.

Having said that, I found the Gouache fun to use but wonder about it's longevity, anyone know?
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I just rang my wife (an artist) on her mobile -she is at the Royal Show. Gouache is an ancient paint, made, as I said, from egg whites. It is not waterproof, but is considered by the arts mafia to be "archival" That suggests longevity. Hope this helps. Max

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Fills me with hope mate.

Archival hey.... :hmm

Cool...:cool wink 

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I think it's Tempera that's made from egg whites.

Should be ok anyway, provided it stays dry.


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According to my dictionary it's tempera for egg white and water colour mixed with gum for Gouache. Anyway I have put both in the Glossary.

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Whatever you do don't lose your temper(a) boys!:roll:   Isn't Gouache something you get when you have too much goo?:lol::lol::lol: 

Actually, simply put Gouache is an opaque watercolour and is quite colour fast.

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thanks guys

i have been doing some digging:hmm as mentioned above Gouache is a water colour paint, apparently Gouache can be manipulated and altered when dry by adding water. this apparently makes it ideal for weathering. the disadvantage is it needs sealing after completion to avoid miss haps when handling. i may have a dabble as the person who's thread i got the info from is probably the best weathering expert i have seen:cool wink

from another forum but worth a read if you have 6 hours spare

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klear floor polish, now i have never user this as floor polish but i used it in the army on my boots for that monday morning shine. another use for this is adding to a loco to give a surface for pastels etc to stick to. another use is to apply to a loco before adding transfers. 2 advantages over varnish is 1 cheap 2 easy to apply with a brush. this would look like a gloss varnish so would need a matt varnish over the top. i think a coat of this before weathering would work well and it would also seal transfers etc.

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Oh Klear polish, oh i used that many a time in the Army :lol: like yourself and many a times i have gone to stamp my foot and wel it came off in a nice little shape :cry:, that was me spending many a happy hour pealing spuds :lol:. Nice colour blue thou when it rained :lol:

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a while back i got hold of some v tanks to go with my 37$post_text and i never got round to taking some pics after weathering so here we go

 



 



 



 



 



and i decided that as i have a workbench thread i had better build myself a workbench. well the boss was nagging all the time about my junk being spread across the kitchen:twisted: i could never find anything when i needed it so i have now got it all sorted. the only place i could have it was above the freezer. the height is ideal for standing and also sitting on the kitchen stall. the front slides out to work and slides back so you can get into the freezer.

 



 



 


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Like the weathering of the wagons, nicely understated, spot on, your new work-table also looks good much better than the old table + you can't get into trouble now!!!!!

That looks a nice Diesel shed you are working on, whose is it or is it scratch built.

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Smart work bench Matt.  Are you selling them ?

Well weathered v tanks - how's it done ?

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Gouache
Just to confirm that this is what I have been using for the bridge in the Pentrecourt Halt Diorama. A base coat of Tamiya Grey acrylic and then once dry, everything else has been the Gouache.
It's great for weathering but you do have to be careful that any subsequent coats are quick and light because the previous layers become workable again once in contact with water.

Interestingly, this has been the paint that I've used to colour my sisal string and "furry" dish cloths when making reeds and grass.
Once dry, a toothbrush, briskly applied, separates the fibres and allows the grass/reeds to stand tall.
I'm not sure if this can be done using acrylics?

PS great effort with the bench Matt, difficult for the munchkin to reach it too :lol:

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thanks guys

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the shed is the peco shed, if you need a shed i would hang on as bachmann have just or about to release a shed. this is a brick one and looks superb. chris may be able to shed some light on release.  it was in a recent magazine.

petermac

i airbrushed grime over the tanks to get rid of the plastic look, then weathering powders were added for the rust and streaks. a final air brush with underframe dirt and hey presto.

i got round to clearing some space today, i sorted out the engine shed and weathered the porta cabins.

 



 



 



getting ready now for my 56 project:cool wink

 

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The cabins look great Matt and you have really got the hang of the weathering there. The air brush seems to be a serious tool for weathering giving an effect that is not so easy by other methods, quick too.

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 Beautiful weathering jobs, Matt.   All those years spraying graffiti are paying off  :mutley:mutley   I really like those cabins - it's good to see something a bit unusual. They're unusual to me, anyway.

 Mike

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Your weathering skills are coming on in leaps and bounds Matt. I love the workbench, my order for one is in the post :thumbs.

The cabins look really good and i think seeing the figure on the steps makes them more life like as well.

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Fantastic weathering and detail on those cabins mate, superb job :thumbs

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Hi Matt

The quality of the weathering on those cabins is brillant, can you please help me, where did you grt those signs, as they really finish off the model

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thanks all

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the airbrush is a great help, i have never been an arty person but this is superb and easy to use. the best thing about an airbrush is you can apply very faint layers to a model, say a BR blue model you can apply off white over the blue evenly to get a faded look. this is something i would never be able to achieve with a brush.

Alan

the signs are from ten commandments, i will find the link for you but this laptop is playing up at the moment. i think i am going to send it through the naughty window in a bit:thud. they do all sorts of stuff . the site should come with a health warning as you can get carried away. they do stuff like these depot signs, station signs, vehicle detailing packs, cctv cameras, diggers and station signs. have a look through, they have a sister site called signs of the times. i think you have to order through ten commandments.

ten commandments

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use the ten commandments link above, go to catalogue then 00 on the left then scenic items at the bottom. the code is  L96 £2 and you get 2 sheets that are about A5 size.

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There's not much in the way of detail kit that they don't sell. Some 7mm stuff too.

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i have not updated this for a bit, my camera has given up the ghost. i have decided to  buy a canon g9 which is 12 megapixel.  i have not been lazy, following on from my latex moulds i purchased some rtv silicone which when set is a much thirmer mould (same as the linka moulds). i purchased some peco point motors (plastic scenic ones) from you know who along with aws ramps. also some knightswig track and depot detailing parts. these were glued into a cassette size container and then i poured the silicone. i was quite impressed with the result, the mould is very strong and detailed. i have also purchased some resin so i now have 2 options 1. plaster for 2. resin. it will be good for smaller items but not cost effective for larger mould (walls etc).   i also have some corgi cement lorries in orange:shock: i went to town on one of these and detailed the cab, gave it a spray job (br blue just for chris) faded then weathered it all. i have also added 1.8mm led headlights (not as awkward as i thought) these will run from copper tape on the underside of the wheels then wires poked through the baseboard.  i have also started work on a hornby class 50 (br blue), this is a superb model that runs very well, this will be detailed at one end then attacked with the magic weathering stick:lol: that is about it for now

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Matt you beat me to it, i was going to post  about vehicle lights and copper tape
but the op on my hand stopped that.
put a pic on when you can please.

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ok

i borrowed a camera (not a good one but it does he job. first of the leyland truck i mentioned earlier

what it started out as (very toy like)



 

now the wiring, copper tape will be placed on the base of the wheels and the wire soldered to this. copper tape will be put onto the road and a dropper sunk through the baseboard and connected to a power bus, this way the lorry can be lifted from the layout.

 



 

some general shots



 



 



 



 



 

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the light looks wonky on the pic but it is not noticeable when looking at it normally. also the window are moulded and not flush which make it look bad but not a lot you can do about it.

a class 50 detailed and weathered. i was very impressed with this model from the box. no screws to take of the body, very power full and the lights look great.



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 

i like them dirty:thud as i said the camera is not a good one so the pics are not so good. as always any questions just ask and any comments good or bad i don't mind.

 

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Matt the lorry looks fine,did you mount the led`s direct or are you using fibre
optics ?
one suggestion if you use waxed wire it can be stuck to the chassis and wont be
seen.

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Wonderfull work on the lorry Matt. I love the weathering on both models as well.

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I really like your style of weathering, dirty just as it should be, and the class 50 is spot on, we also have one that needs weathering and I hope it can look half as good as yours, as for the lorry, well thats where you shine above us all, brilliant.

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 That lorry is brilliant Matt, you wouldn't think it was the same one

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Departmental stock are referred to by "Fishkind" telegraph codes and were adopted by the Civil Engineer to refer to different types of stock, and have survived to this day even after 30 odd years of TOPS codes.

 

Grampus: sleepers,  ballast, spent ballast or engineers stores.

Herring: Trout: Catfish: Dogfish: Four wheeled hoppers, discharge inside,outside the 4'.

Salmon: Carrying 60' rail lenghts.

Rudd: refurbished Grampus.

Zander: Ex Esso tankers, replaced with box for sand traffic.

Sealion: Seacow: Bogie Hoppers

Then there are MY*'s MZ*'s MBA's etc etc etc, could bore the pants of everyone, Departmental Stock, could go on for hours!

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That lorry is terrific, Matt. Looking forward to seeing it in place on the layout.
I wouldn't know how dirty those locos should be, but I do like the way you've done it.

Mike

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the LED's are 1.8mm, i drilled a 1.5mm hole and mounted these (once soldered)  at the rear. i used milliput to fill in the gaps between the wheels and arches. the milliput also held everything firm. i may run the wire into the rer of the wheel and down into the tyre. i can then drill a small hole and push a pin\rod through the tyre to make a contact.

phil

thanks for the comments.

 

Alan

i do think i went a bit overboard with this one (i do get a bit carried away:oops:) i have a freightliner 66 that i have just received back from Bushman and it looks far to clean. this is a bit passed the blue era but i like the 66 and i will be getting some dapol freightliner spine wagons to complete the set.

 

Kev

i have another 3 of these to have a pop at so it should be fun:thumbs

John

i looked into the departmentel names, i gave up after a bit:shock: it is like opening a can of worms. it is like signalling, it is ok to know the basics but how far do you want to go into it.

 

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that means a lot coming from the paint guru:thumbs it was my first go at using gauche, i used it for the dirty black streaks running down from the roof of the 50. i was impressed with this stuff. i found the only drawback was you had to seal it after each application, but on the plus side adding a coat of matt varnish after each coat helped build up a good texture.

 

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time for an update, i have not been lazy:roll:  i have done some work on my dodgy 66, the one that would not stay on the rails. well i managed to convince bachmann to have a look at the 66 before i threw it out of the window. see thread

my 66 is going out the window

i got this back a few weeks ago and just managed to get some work  done on it. any questions just ask.

the camera is a cheap and nasty one so please take this into account 4 megapixel and bad lighting.

i spent a bit of time on the exhaust as these start of as a burgondy plasticy urealistic clump on top of the model.



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you have done it proud Matt.:pathead
two questions, what is the kit the loco is on for spraying and where do i get one
also what did bachmann find was wrong with the 66 ?

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thanks owen
bachmann just said they changed the bogie.

good pics

you get two turntables, a larger one like a cake stand with 4 clips to hold them smaller parts. the top is about 6 inches wide. you also get a smaller one that has two adjustable wires which you can see holding the 66. it is a very good piece of kit. the turntable is around £15.99 but i think if you do a lot of work on your wagons it is worth it. i didn't handle the wagon from start to finish. one problem i did find was it has no tilt, i sorted this with a helping hand sat on the turntable. i used card to hold the wagon body. i have taken a couple of pics to show what i am rambling on about.








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Matt - I think that's a brilliant piece of weathering !! :thumbs:thumbs  When do we get the "How I did it" bit please ?

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Beaut of a weathering job,Matt.Lovely bit of kit that stand is too...but I can't see anything wrong with that camera.Some really good sharp pics IMHO.

Cheers,John.B.

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SUPER job, Matt! I love it and I want it.

 Photos look fine to me. My camera is only 4MP and I couldn't be happier with it. I think it's more about the lens than the megapixels. Alan and Thomas would know....

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Looks like the whole of your stock will be weathered brilliantly, your style as I have said before is spot-on, and just up my street, and that stand, I have been trying to think of something that I could use, you have just solved the problem, thanks.

As for your camera, if you have any questions, just ask away either on the photographic thread or PM me, and I will help in any way.

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If anybody is interested the painting stand is on sale here at $19.99.

http://www.ehobbies.com/tam74522.html?utm_source=tam74522&utm_medium=shopping%2Bengine&utm_campaign=froogle

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Matt thanks,it is much better than using a tube as i do at present.

Bob good link thanks to you too.

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thanks for all the comments
found the stand on ebay
ebay

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It looks like it's only available to United Kingdom residents on e-bay Matt, or have I got it wrong.

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