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 Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 04:28 am
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This is my first ever scratchbuild :?
Hopefully this thread will be entertaining and educational to some of you.
All thoughts, criticisms and help welcome.

The Pentrecourt Halt Diorama Project I am building needs... a small station halt platform.
As part of the Forum's kit project a Dornplas GWR Pagoda style waiting hut was put together for the halt but the platform is going to have to be scratchbuilt.
I have two photos of the Halt from the GWR Journal about the Newcastle Emlyn branch and I'm using further information, including GWR drawings of a standard Halt, from A Vaughan's pictorial record of GWR Architecture.

The picture below shows a carboard mock-up of the hut and platform on the under-construction diorama.







From the photo's in the journal it looks like the platform is supported by wooden posts surrounded by a rock plinth :!: The photo showing this was taken circa 1950 and I'm going to assume that when originally constructed, the supports are the standard format set out in the GWR drawing and that the rocks were added later as support.

Using the dimensions from the GWR drawing, I've drawn up the supports in autocad and printed a bunch of them out to scale to use as a template.
Over the top of the paper is a sheet of clear plastic which I am hoping won't take the glue and will allow me to remove the supports without destroying them.







To start with, the glue was delivered by the needle applicator on the bottle but the blobs were uncontrollable. Kind suggestions from other members on the forum moved me on to using a cocktail stick to apply the glue in smaller drops.
Even with the cocktail stick it was still difficult to get a clean join and joy, oh joy, at the recent model railway show here in Perth, WA, I found some MEK solvent at a trade stand.
The proprietor, however, convinced me to buy a similar type that also welds other plastics including PVC as well as styrene.
Same application as MEK, by brush, and boy is it a joy to use compared to the blobby stuff.

Once the supports were completed, a mind numbing exercise which makes me appreciate the efforts of Perry and others who have shown us the way before, the platform curve was traced out on a piece of paper and then transfered to 1mm sheet styrene.

The plan is to use a copy of the platform profile as a base to glue the supports to and then use the top sheet of styrene to laminate Slaters timber planking to.

The first supports are in place and there is a stone plinth to support the pagoda hut...






All of the supports are now in place, after miscalculating and needing to make up just one more of the little s***ers. The curve in the base sheet of styrene has occured in the last couple of days but I'm hoping that the cross bracing and top platform will be enought to flatten it out again.






Next... is the cross bracing I think... more as it comes to hand...



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Great progress Marty. Not your everyday platform, that one. N scale, too :shock:
Is that solvent hard on brushes?

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:lol: Thank goodness for the Optivisor :shock:

Not that I've noticed so far, it just evapourates off 8)



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I would need a microscope to do what you are doing in N scale.

you are making great progress

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Great work Marty and very easy to follow (but not do). It all comes into perspective when you see that the pagoda hut is not much bigger than the scalpel blade. :shock:

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Nice work, Marty in N scale it would be virtually impossible for me :!:

The bend in the platform may well straighten when you put the platform surface on, but I wouldn't leave it to chance.
Use another sheet of plasticard and laminate it to the underside of the base you show, using double sided adhesive tape.
Put the tape on the second sheet (of say .060 thickness), then base of platform on top of sticky surface and press down well on the edges. That should do the trick.
Using more solvent to bond another sheet may just encourage more warping, but double sided tape will not affect it in that way.

Hope that helps :!:

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now that is a very useful tip ,something i would never have thought about.
thanks Jeff.
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Great start Marty. Unfortunately I am another one of those for whom N would be impossible to work in so I appreciate even more what you are doing. Good job the photographs don't have to be in N. :lol:



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Thats looking great so far,MartyThe diorama will look brilliant when you slot this in.
Are you going to have some little n gauge people waiting for a train???
Cheers,John.B.

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The mind bogggles mate, n scale and you do great work like that, me i would not be able to see anything even with a special whatsit, anyhow i am cack handed so be deffo no good for me.
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Thanks all, you keep me motivated...
Jeff,
I'll potter out and get some double sided tape and some thicker styrene card at lunchtime and give it a go.
John.B.
I think people definitely, just to see how they fit in and how the paint job looks on them. I'll have to get pre painted figures I think, hand painting them myself will be very difficult in N :D
Time to surf the Presier web site and exercise the credit card :P



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Very nice Marty.



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Nearly finished...

I want to add a bench and some flower pots, ballast/earth under the platform and it needs a wee tidy up where I've hurried my brush work but... I'm pretty pleased with...

Pentrecourt Halt ... and a nice tidy, painted GWR pagoda hut with flower boxes just for T.










Flower boxes and lamp post...


  



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Lovely!!! Hats off to you, Marty. It'll look superb on the diorama. Really charming.

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Astounding Marty once again you make n scale seem easy. I know its not but how you mangae it i shall never know, must have the patients of a saint mate.
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Oh for goodness sake! How on earth do you manage to get window boxes looking that good in such a small scale :!:

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I'm speechless, Marty! This is inspiring! And to think that I'm having problems simply joining N track :!: :roll: :roll: :roll:



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Marty that is teerific,straitened out well and those flower boxes !!!
:roll: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: 8)

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Only one word for it mate.......Sensational!!!
If this is your first scratchbuild,I've got a sneaky feeling it won't be your last!
Keep on raising that bar...brilliant!

Cheers,John.B. :shock:

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Marty, thats spot on - good build and paint - and in such a small scale!

How did you make the window boxes? They really do look the part.



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