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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 12:08 pm
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Great start Bob. Making your living area tobacco free is a great first step and no doubt your other half is right behind you giving you all the support you need. I remebr when SWMBO gave up it was the first few weeks that were the hardest and as long as me and the boys put up with the shortness of temper etc. and didn't do anything that would cause any panic resulting in nerve jangling things were OK.

So keeping going you guys

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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 12:28 pm
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The thing that irritates me most is when people keep asking me how it's going because that reminds me straight away. That doesn't apply on here of course because the very act of posting on the subject means that that time spent is time I'm not having a ciggy.



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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 01:17 pm
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To me smoking was two things, no, three things.
1. addictive
2. habit
3. being part of the crowd who did smoke.

1, Addictive - yes , hard to break. may need medical treatment like patches, gum, hypnotism, acupuncture, etc.

2. habit - OK, change it by altering when you smoke. stretch out the time between puffs - also need something to keep the hands busy - suck on watermelon seeds is one way I was told. Nibbles of food can make one FAT.
Make the house/ car/ layout room smoke free & this includes visitors. Be a grumpy bug.. for a while

3. Being part of the crowd - I think most of us started smoking when we were young & it was the thing to do - everyone did it but now smokers are the minority.

As posted by others, put the money one spends in to clear jar to see how it accummulates or solder a lid to a tin with a slot in it like a piggy bank & wait until it is full to open it open with a can opener . Put it in a highly visible place so the family can see it & scream blue murder if it goes for walk before it is full.

In my smoking days, I think I enjoyed it but when I got up & the first thing I reached for was a fag & a cup of coffee, well I knew things were rotten in Denmark.
I do feel better, not financially richer coz I spent it on trains, etc & I keep myself busy not to think about it so much now.

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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 02:42 pm
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Well its now 3.40pm here in the afternoon and i have kept myself busy on my day off. Had our grandson for a few hours, got my haircut and weeks shopping, no fags either. This afternoon i sprayed our fence with that gadget from BBQ, instead of 5 hours with a brush i did it in 3/4hour with the sprayer and no fags again. Not missed at all whilst i was ding al that but now i am but i came on here to keep my mind off it and now i bid you farewell and i come back later after i have cooked the dinner.
One point my chest has been tight all day but i stopped before and its normal, lot of deep breaths and i am fine. Feeling good and rocking so far.
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ps, need to do some more carrots :D

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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 04:43 pm
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THIS IS A "SMOKING" GUN
I think there's something else which all of you smokers who are trying to break the habit need to consider, and that is the effect it will have on the others should one of you give in. In other words if you can all keep together the encouragement should carry you along and thus enable you all to succeed, but if just one drops by the wayside it will then give others the excuse to do likewise.
I realise I'm being hard here but I'm really putting pressure on that first person who feels like giving in because the responsibility towards everyone else is enormous, so just think of this when the going gets tough.
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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 04:48 pm
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Day 1 And Counting.

Cheers Ken even more pressure now as if we have not got enough already :evil: :evil: :D :D :D
psst anyone doing a book who will crumble first :D, i like a to have a bet :D :D
Just a thought who is giving up, can we have the names put on here so we know who it is and maybe we could PM each other when the going gets a little tough if it was ok by them.

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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 05:32 pm
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I hear what you say Ken but at the same time it wouldn't be good if someone then felt pressure to be less than honest because of fearing the affect on others. It's all very difficult. One cigarette so far today for me but now I have read Phill's post I feel bad about even just the one. Good on yer Phill, keep it up.



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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 07:33 pm
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Good luck to you all - I'm a smoker, I enjoy it, so not joining you but wishing you all success in your endeavours

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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 08:34 pm
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I too enjoy it Martin, always have done. That's a big part of the stopping problem.



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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 08:44 pm
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I managed to complete the day without my two cakes and also without the crisps. Had something called an apple and a banana. I am being totally serious when I say that I am 38 in three weeks and this is the first time in my life that I have eaten fruit. (excluding pineapple if that counts as fruit which I have had on some pizza toppings)

Not sure if it is a Cornish thing but for us growing up in a tough fishing village it was a sure sign that you were posh if you had fruit on the table when nobody was sick!

I am sure that I read that you can become addicted to food and that obesity is now our country's biggest problem, so I am sure that what Sol has said equally applies to me, although option 3 in my case is more like doing what is expected as I have always had a big appetite.

Anyway hopefully we can all keep at whatever we are giving up or cutting down on.

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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 08:45 pm
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I also enjoy it but i know i have to try gain and so far i have not given in, all thought the way United are playing tonight a fag may be need for my nerves but carrots are keeping them at bay so far :D
Well done Bob so far, seems only u and i so far have took the plunge :(
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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 09:31 pm
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Like Boilermaker, I don't really want to give up - I enjoy them but my health and wallet aren't so keen - nor is Liz who's never smoked. I have cut back a lot in recent years and don't consider myself a heavy smoker now - 10 to 12 a day will normally see me through.

I tried to think of all sorts of ways to kick it ready for today - "on the hour", "after meals only", "evenings only" etc. etc.

I decided to just keep busy - idle hands make lighter work - so that's what I've done.

I have to say, during the day I didn't find it too difficult but this evening after supper - who's crazy idea was it ? :evil: :evil: :evil:

I've just logged on to see what's been posted today and now I'm off to bed - never needed one when I'm asleep. Hope tomorrow isn't too bad.

I think we all need 3 cheers after 1 day !! :shock: :shock:

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Sol wrote:............................................... keep the hands busy - suck on watermelon seeds is one way I was told......................

...................... well I knew things were rotten in Denmark.


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: watermelon seeds - is that before or after you've eaten the melon ?....and........don't tell me - you smoked cigars :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Petermac, in my youth, I had a pipe & smoked cigars as well as tailor made & roll yer owns.

Bob, only having one - good.
Phill good effort
Chtis T - fruit is enjoyable & good for you & non- fattening.

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 Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 11:58 pm
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Another thing to look out for is if you nip down the local for a few pints, the urge to restart smoking is a big danger at this time.

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Robert wrote:I'm just a little bit worried here about those who are choosing the cold turkey route as I know what the effects can be, quite dramatic with some people. This is a powerful drug we are dealing with so please take care. For myself I really need to do this as my health, in particular my breathing, is being seriously affected. A cold can so badly affect my lungs that twice I have been rushed off to the hospital because of being unable to breathe. As can be expected the hospital loses a great deal of sympathy when they see I am a smoker, and who can blame them for the problem is self inflicted. In spite of all this I continue to smoke, which says a lot for the strength of the addiction. You can see from the above that I need all the encouragement I can get from you, as do the others, so keep it up folks it's much appreciated.
Bob, this is exactly the way my Dad was effected and he actually collapsed and "died" one day but luckily my brother was there (on holiday from Switzerland where he lives) and gave him the "kiss of life". This literally saved him and was the incentive that made him do it cold turkey, and, as I mentioned in my earlier post, gave him a new lease of life.
Of course, a dramatic happening like that is more likely to make anyone have the extra incentive but I can't help wondering how many people didn't have the good fortune to have someone like my brother standing by...............

Incidentally, if anyone's thinking "Oh he's a non-smoker so it's easy for him to talk" I would just mention that I have Fibromyalgia (a kind of MS type thing that few people - including Doctor's! - know about) and from being incredibly fit, within days could hardly walk and my whole body was racked with pain! I got hooked on Anti-inflamatory pain killers which whilst they took away the pain gave me the most terrible side effects. Doc said keep taking the tablets but I rationalised that my body was not trying to fight it, instead it was just accepting the pills which was the easy way out! Anyway, I went 12 days without any pills but I just couldn't stand the pain plus the fact that I was almost immobile so back I went on the tablets and back came the side effects, so, I thought "No, I've just got to give them up" so I started again cold turkey and fought my way past the 12 days (which in itself was a milestone) and after a couple of months began to notice a slight improvement in my walking and an easing of the pain. Well it took about 2 years before I was back to normal and I'm now ok but it can come back at any time and I've had slight recurrences in my shoulders - by the way, I've since found out that I only had it mildly!!! - and as it attacks the immune system I have to be very careful about not catching colds etc as this lowers my resistance and it could all start again.
It's amazing what you can do when you have to, so I hope this may give the smokers some encouragement.
Incidentally, I call myself "Hesperus" now - cos I'm a wreck!!!!!
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Ken wrote I call myself "Hesperus" now

And I think your Dad ought to be known as Lazarus :shock: . What an amazing story Ken and what an inspiration for anyone. You are incredibly brave to have done what you did and if anyone deserves recognition and health it's you. Thanks for sharing it with us. :D :D :D

So you abstainees, hopefully this will spur you on. Keep strong guys.

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Les wrote: ........You are incredibly brave to have done what you did
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Nice of you to say so Les but more like desperation than bravery!
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Ken i know the pain of Fybro so well, my wife has it and its the severe case of it as well. She has all the disabled aids in the house so i know what you where or still are going through.
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