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She looks really smart now much better than her RTR condition.

I presume you got most of the bits from mainly trains?

Did you use the dremel slitting saw to remove the old smokebox door.


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A fine looking beasty there mate and i love the weathering but missing the FA cup final really mate.
Anyhow make sure you watch next week's Champions final, Man utd trancing Chelsea :D :D .
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Will they be a finer scale wheel Frank and what are you going to do about quartering?

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She looks the business.You sure do have the knack for weathering stock and locos.They look just like the real deal.
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I have to admit I wouldn't know where to start detailing a steam locomotive, but that looks great! Looking forward to more installments on this thread :)

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Dukedog wrote:This loco started off as a Hornby RTR model. I have replaced the smokebox door and door handles, wire vac and heat pipes,screw couplings, wire handrails, etched plates and various other bits.


Reminds me of Triggers broom in Only Fools and Horses. He said "I've had this broom for 17 years. It's had 12 new handles and 15 new heads!"

There cannot be much of the original loco left, but it looks great. And it's Great Western. To help Henry Parrot, there are several differences between this type and a King. If you look hard you should be able to spot most of them :twisted:

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[quote="Christrerise..................
Reminds me of Triggers broom in Only Fools and Horses. He said "I've had this broom for 17 years. It's had 12 new handles and 15 new heads!"

There cannot be much of the original loco left, but it looks great. And it's Great Western. To help Henry Parrot, there are several differences between this type and a King. If you look hard you should be able to spot most of them :twisted:


I am going to my layout still laughing over these comments , Chris :lol: :lol:

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Looks terrific Frank. I wondered whether or not these detailing kits were actually worthwhile, now I know they are. I wouldn't know where to begin to fit new wheels though so are you going to include this in your thread, with pictures? :D :D :D :wink:

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Not only is it a most impressive bit of weathering Frank, it's also a pretty good photo. I can feel the atmosphere there. Super job.

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I had some trouble once with a similar model, ran with a jerking motion, so I took the connecting rods off to test the wheels individually and had one hell of a job getting the rods back on again. I thought it was a simple matter of fastening them back on when the holes lined up. Not so. They went back on easily enough but the wheels were locked solid. I played around with them for hours before they worked correctly.

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Robert wrote:I had some trouble once with a similar model, ran with a jerking motion, so I took the connecting rods off to test the wheels individually and had one hell of a job getting the rods back on again. I thought it was a simple matter of fastening them back on when the holes lined up. Not so. They went back on easily enough but the wheels were locked solid. I played around with them for hours before they worked correctly.

Remember the Rubik's Cube Bob - a bit like loco wheels !!! :shock:

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quartering can be a bitch,especialy on splined axles thats why i
kept my old hamblins quartering tool,sets them up every time.
:roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

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At the time I was struggling I didn't even know there was such a thing as a quartering tool. Who needs one anyway, it's simply a matter of connecting the rods back up again isn't it. Wrong, wrong, wrong, as I found out to my cost. :roll:

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Don't have those sort of problems with diesels. :roll:

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by the way lads , if you are stuck for the wheelsets . try

gear services letchworth. 01462 685327

I picked up some drivers for an A 1 for a friend of mine ,and got a mini tour of the works .its only a small firm but loads of lathes and milling machines .casts of nearly any wheel you mention .they carry some stock ,but any made to order might take a while .but worth a phone call

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Frank, I've been watching this thread with interest, as detailing is something I haven't done, always taking the easy option on running my stock straight out of the box. :oops: :oops:

I'm sure there are others like me, so perhaps you could do a simple "how to" so that we have some idea about making a start :?:

A thread in the Hints & Tips section would be much appreciated and of tremendous use.
Also, is this sort of thing covered in any modelling books :?: Anything i can find seems to refer back to the days before we had such good models, when even I could find something that needed improving :!: :!: :!:

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Well i,m blowed i didn.t know that. just goes to show how thick i am . bye the way tried your magic mix to glue two different types of plastic together (cutting and shutting hornbys suspension bridge )and its the best ever .thanks frank. :) :)

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Yet another cracker Frank and really looks the part.

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That looks very effective. can you confirm that the glazing, as well as the metal bits came from langley?

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And run the globe on half of its rated voltage & it will look like a gas lamp.
Neat, I will take 4 thanks Frank.

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Nice little lamp Frank,
I want to be able to do that in N scale, going to be fiddly :? sigh.

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That poor old Class 4 Frank. I feel really sorry for it. First class job.

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Fantastic Frank - looks ready to be withdrawn!

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Great job Frank, it's how I remember them as well. You'd pay TMC etc a lot of money to do that. Any chance of a how to?

Maybe you could have a look at weathering the lamps on the front. I seem to remember they too were anything other than white.
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Poor old beastie, nicely done.

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Really nice heavy weathering you are right my memories of steam engines as a small boy thet were all filthy and covered in rust ,
The first shiny steam engine i ever saw was Kolaphur at the cricklewood engine shed open day in 1969 i think

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I'd sack the crew if I were you !!! Fancy coming on parade in a scruffy old beast like that. Superb weathering job Frank.

As Les says - a "how to" would go down a bomb. There were many, many locos in that sorry state towards the end of the steam era.

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That is an outstanding weathering job which looks very natural and realistic. Good photography too. I would make one small suggestion and that is to tone down the lamps on the buffer beam a bit with a wash of grime, as, in my view, they look a little too clean given the overall state of the loco - but an excellent an highly effective job.

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Looks good, Frank. The poor thing :D :D

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Okey Doke thanks Frank.

If we do migrate, I'll remind you. :wink:

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Great looking control box

With those capacitors you will bend the blades on the points:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

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If you use Peco points then they will probably jump right off the baseboard.:lol:

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Frank - that's some piece of kit and I guess it packs a heft punch - if I send you a couple of wires over from France, can you connect them up and change my point as well ? !!:roll::roll::lol::lol::lol:

 

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Dukedog wrote:    Petermac wrote: Frank - that's some piece of kit and I guess it packs a heft punch - if I send you a couple of wires over from France, can you connect them up and change my point as well ? !!:roll::roll::lol::lol::lol:

 

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No problem Petermac!
When you get to the English side of the chanel tunnel, head north north west for about 250miles!


See you tomrrow  !!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Frank,
      It never ceases to amaze me when I see the various ways people have of controlling their trains.This kind of wiring is very advanced stuff to me,but I will have to get into it at some point when I begin work on"the beast in the loft".
       Where do you get your components from...local shop or internet??
In the meantime,I'll have a butchers at your website and see if I can fathom it all out.

cheers,John.B.

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your even scratchbuilding your controller super stuff

 

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I am now out of my depth with this wonderful electronics! I stand here and simply doff my cap to Frank!

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HP, building controllers is easy - just follow the wiring. It does work out a lot cheaper on money costs.

In fact the local group when I joined, had a common circuit design & plug method for ultimately all 6 layouts so we could take our own controller along & know that it would work.

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Les wrote: Okey Doke thanks Frank.

If we do migrate, I'll remind you. :wink:

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As promised frank.:cheers

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They must be small Frank because it looks ok to me. Better than ok in fact.

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That looks great Frank - a little masterpiece and the colouring is just superb.

Real Welsh building stone - what is it ?

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The only defects i can see is that there is no glass in the windows:hmm

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Robert wrote: They must be small Frank because it looks ok to me. Better than ok in fact.
I'm assuming that you have edited your picture since posting because I cannot see any problems either!  Looks great Frank

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Is it a kit you are making of have you scratchbuilt the cottage.

You certainly have got very good colour variation in the granite stone.

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I did not realise until today that your Username Dukedog is actually a GWR steam loco i was reading my model rail which turned up today and the dukedog class engine was one they said had not been made by RTR manufacturers yet.

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      beautiful job on the building.The colours you've used for the stone are bob-on.If theres any flaws there,I'm jiggered if I can see 'em!!!
      Its going to look great when its finished.
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Looks flawless to me too. Love the paint job!

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Now if the GWR dudes could just hold their scorn and derision for a moment please - is that the same class as "City of Truro" Frank, or maybe some close relation?  Maybe we need another YMR Appreciation Thread for these to enlighten us diesel dudes

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And the City Class had tapered boilers,too!
 
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if you pm one of the mods or  the FC they would be able to move this thread to the on members workbench thread:thumbs

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your handheld looks really smart full marks to you i know of nobody who makes there own controllers.

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Frank, your comment:-

All time consuming jobs but not a lot to show for it!







Yes, true but I think there is a lot of satisfaction when one builds a lot of small but necessary detail items.  Thet do look very nice indeed - I will send you my postal address :thumbs

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Frank, those little details that take a lot of time, but don't show up much, is exactly what makes people stand there and just keep looking at the layout. They can't quite figure out why, but they do it anyway.

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Very nice Frank

Like the driver, you have even painted his tie.

How good would it look against your backdrop in B/W.

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Brush, airbrush or powders? Whichever, it looks really good, and just how they looked as far as I can remember in the 60's. Can I send you mine for a workover? It's much too clean for my West Riding of 1967.

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My memories when a young boy in the last days of steam they were all filthy dirty and rusty.

The first shiny steam locomotive i ever saw was Kolaphur in 1969 at the cricklewood shed open day.

cheers Brian

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Beautiful weathering, Frank. Can't wait to see the layout after seeing the loco

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Frank, the Ivatt 2-6-2T detailing is very well done.

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Very well presented loco Frank. :thumbs

The detailing and, particularly, the weathering are really true to life for locos of that hard working class. ;-);-)

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Just as I thought Frank

Brilliant, Thank you

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Beautifully weathered couple of locos there,Frank.

cheers,John.B.

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I want one.

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Frank, once again you have produced a very nice weathered loco in a superb setting. I just love all the detail that you add.

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