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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:26 pm
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Seeing as how my last months' diorama is dragging its heels,I decided to get cracking early doors on this kit-building project.
The vans are made by Mill Lane Sidings,and use Peco chassis to complete.
By the late 1930's,more planes were being built with 3 rather than 2 blade propellors.The 2 blade variety could be transported lied flat on ordinary open wagons,but the 3 blade variety were too wide to be lied flat.Even transported upright,the height would exceed the loading gauge,so the solution was these wagons,with a hole in the wagon floor for one of the blades to fit through.


In 1938,the GWR built 5 of these wagons.......by the early years of WW2,a further 170 were built...........!!!By the 1950's most had been converted back to ordinary flat wagons,
This shows the butchering of the peco chassis required to create the hole for the 3rd blade.I also took the early opportunity of chopping off those horrible couplings and fitting MBM magnetic couplings.(although I haven't put the droppers on them that make them function yet!)Note that because of the siting of the hole,the coupling on the left was shortened.


The kit itself is laser -cut thin wood,and presents a major challenge to my eyesight,let alone ability!!Some of the bits are 1mm wide!!



This last photo shows how far I got today before my eyeballs popped out on springs!!! :shock: :shock:


Cheers for now,John.B.

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:18 pm
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i admire your persevearence John,now i remember why i went 00.
my sausage fingers .
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Wow, John, that can't be easy. I've never known of such a wagon, so it's fascinating to see it grow.

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Now this is going to be a very useful thread as I plan on making some N gauge wagons later on, not the AERO as I don't think that there was any call from them on the Newcastle Emlyn branch, but some of the other N Gauge Societies kits.

Looking forward to the next installment John.



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Amazing how there is always something new to learn in this hobby!

Those wagons will make a change from the usual box vans and open wagons - looking forward to more updates.

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I take my hat off to you GJG - to model something as fine as that in "N" gauge is remarkable. I doubt if I could even see the kit parts :shock: :shock: !!!

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Petermac,
I can't see the flaming parts either!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm going to leave the kits for a day or two,until my poor old peepers are rested!
cheers,John.B.
(P.S. Wish I had the space for O gauge!!!! :wink: )

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Looking good mate. If you look in the history section i did a piece on thses wagons some time back.
Better eyes than me, i would be snookered doing n gauge myself.
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georgejacksongenius wrote:Petermac,
I can't see the flaming parts either!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm going to leave the kits for a day or two,until my poor old peepers are rested!
cheers,John.B.
(P.S. Wish I had the space for O gauge!!!! :wink: )


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Try whisky John - completely takes the strain off the eyes !!

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Petermac,
Once I get started on the whisky,I'll be seeing double.That could work out very well for me.Four wagons for the price of two!!! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers,John.B.

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georgejacksongenius wrote:Petermac,
Once I get started on the whisky,I'll be seeing double.That could work out very well for me.Four wagons for the price of two!!! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers,John.B.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Having had a very traumatic 24 hours with technology,(site access,my e-mail problems,photobucket problems and finally the wifes' digital camera playing silly beggars),I have managed to finish one of my aero wagons and here's a photo.I'll post again when I've done 'em both.
Up the Luddites!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cheers for now,John.B.

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John

that looks great considering they are N gauge the detail you have finished them with is superb i would have a hard job seeing the wagons let alone detailing them.
i will have to look and see if you can get the same kits in OO gauge
i might stand a chance at making them look half decent in OO gauge.

cheers Brian.W

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Thats great work, how you do such detail in n gauge beats me, bad enough with o gauge, well done.
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The kit instructions recommend getting new wheelsets from Parkside Dundas that are the correct 3 hole disc wheels.(the Peco chassis'wheels are spoked!),but I don't think anyone's going to look that close!(bloody rivet counters),so I probably won't be doing that!!!
There's just the other wagon to do now,and then number and letter them up.and try,and I do emphasise,TRY,to weather them up a bit.
The hardest parts of the build have been replacing the couplings and chopping out the opening in the bottom of the chassis.To be honest,its not been as hard as I thought it would've been.The trick is just to do bits until your eyes have had enough,then leave it for a while.
I can recommend these kits,but I wish they made those little 6 wheel syphons in this laser-cut wood stuff.........then I'd really fill me boots....loads of big long milk trains!!! :lol:
Hopefully,I can get to the bottom of whats ailing the wifes camera and post some better pics next time.Til then,cheers lads.,
John.B.

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That's a fascinating little wagon, John. I love it! To me it already looks as if it's done quite a few miles.

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I agree, superb job and I too thought that it had already been weathered.



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georgejacksongenius wrote:



Nice job John, I like the weathering it looks just right, not too overdone because they were probably relatively new for the period you have chosen to model.
Good work

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Stunning John,

I am always full of admiration for anybody who can take a flat sheet of something and turn in into a masterpiece!

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That really is a cracker John, especially in N gauge, I can fully appreciate the problems you have had. Really nice work :D

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