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 Posted: Mon Mar 24th, 2008 09:36 pm
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This is a photo i took of a photo on the wall at a guys office in Perranporth recently so i dont think there is any copywright anyway as it is ages old and its my photo of a photo

GJG

John have you got aa photo with this view ?



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Now that would be worth modelling but not so sure about that contraption with the cart wheels in the foreground what is it ?



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 Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 08:24 am
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I am really not sure what the cart thing is it looks very mechanical whatever it is perhaps an early farm machine.

Re the station GJG John i believe is going to do a thread on Perranporth station as he plans to build it but was going to put information on the forum in case anybody else wanted to look at building it or other ones on the branch line.

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Brian,
Yes I have seen this picture,but only as a postcard...this version is much clearer than mine,despite the reflections on the glass.It was taken soon after the station opened,when it was the end of the line.
Not long after,the line was extended to Newquay.
I don't know how you keep coming up with these little gems,mate,but keep right on........I'm still chuffed to bits with that piccy of the subway entrance!!!
No excuses for not being accurate with the model now,is there???
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Any idea of the date of that picture Brian? It's beautiful, just waiting to be modelled.



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John will probably know a more exact date but i think it is around 1910
something like that.
It is an unusual station as it is a totally island platform a pedestrian subway was used to access it .
John intends to do a thread on the station he has gathered a lot of information on it i have helped being local to it with some information on it A neighbour of mine his father was signalman at the station for 45 years. Although only a Branch line in the summer mainline passenger trains from paddington used to stop there so you could run bigger stuff as well as the usual prairies and panniers aswell if you modelled it.
I really havent got a clue what that wagon at the front of the photo is.

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i am now showing my age,the machine in question is a threshing
machine,the big wheel was belt driven usually by a steam tractor
or more usually by a traction engine.
:roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

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Bob,
The picture was taken in 1905,the year the station was opened.Its the most popular image of the station,and it seems to have been taken to celebrate the opening,and was issued as apostcard at the time.
I've got one or two other vintage shots of the line that are now out of copyright,so I'll put on as many as possible.St.Agnes was also a very attractive little station,and the station building still survives,albeit as a private home.

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I'm really looking forward to those John. I'm strong on nastolgia.



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owen69 wrote:i am now showing my age,the machine in question is a threshing
machine,the big wheel was belt driven usually by a steam tractor
or more usually by a traction engine.
:roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)


It seems a very small threshing machine Owen but, having re examined the photo, you could well be right. Judging the scale from the covered wagon in the station, it might be big enough and the "lump" on the top right of the machine could be the threshing drum. It would naturally have been sheeted down to keep the drum dry. Well spotted. :wink: :wink:

You may think you're showing your age but as a student in the late 50's early 60's, I used to work on local farms on threshing days - brilliant money for a student at 3.50 per 8 hour day carrying 16 or 18 stone sacks of grain from the machine up steps to the granary (men were men in those days !! :lol: ). In East Yorkshire, being a cereal growing area, they were much larger machines - Ransomes, Sims & Jeffries were the manufacturers. Don't remember the steam/traction engines in use but they were indeed belt driven from a tractor pulley and, for the H.S.E. chaps, you had to walk (or rather duck) under the long canvas belt with the sack of corn on your back. You certainly knew about it if the metal joint in the belt caught your fingers as it went past !!!

Sorry - not "on thread" !! :oops: :oops:

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Petermac, (i know this is off thread sorry )i wondered are the ones you refer to are longer because the also bayled the hay out of the back?
:oops: :lol: :lol:

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please continue it is not off thread as it relates to the wagon in the initial photograph and i always think it is great to hear about peoples experiances with things i dont think many of us would have had the opurtunity to work on a belt driven tresher in our lives.
So it makes the whole thread much more interesting.

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owen69 wrote:Petermac, (i know this is off thread sorry )i wondered are the ones you refer to are longer because the also bayled the hay out of the back?
:oops: :lol: :lol:


No Owen - they just were very large machines. The baler (or more correctly "trusser") was a separate piece of kit which stood behind the main threshing machine. The threshed straw (hay is dried grass :wink: ) fell from the back of the machine into the top of the trusser (driven by a second belt from the threshing machine) and was packed (not very tightly) into large "bale" like packs then carted away to the haystack (a "generic" term !!) The very light material which held the grain (called chaff) was usually blown through tubes into a large heap by an integral fan to be used as "roughage" in cattle feed on the farm. The whole set up was very clever but very hard work. In fact, a threshing machine is almost the same as a modern combined harvester but without the refinements and not self-propelled.

Thanks for letting me reminice Brian :wink: :wink: :wink: Those were the days !! :roll: :roll:

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well i never worked on wheat or corn only the hay,but have seen plenty in action,spuds &turnip snagging too. :lol: :lol: 8)

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"Turnip snagging" Owen - that does date you before colour television !! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Petermac wrote:"Turnip snagging" Owen - that does date you before colour television !! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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colour t/v :roll: before any t/v more like,try battery wireless,( that will
get em going ). :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

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owen69 wrote:Petermac wrote:"Turnip snagging" Owen - that does date you before colour television !! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Petermac

colour t/v :roll: before any t/v more like,try battery wireless,( that will
get em going ). :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)



I even remember using crystal radio in my bedroom as a younger person & it only seemed like yesterday.

Sorry, did not mean to go off-topic :oops:

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This is my version of the same photo,taken from Middleton Press's "Branch Lines to Newquay".The caption below the photo says its a horse-drawn portable steam engine sheeted up,probably the property of the railway building contractor.
As Petermac suggests it may be too small for a thresher,and the station is in pristine condition,I'm personally going to plump for it being an early cement mixer!!!

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Whoa!!! Hang on the bell,Nellie!!!

I've literally just opened a new(to me)book with this same piccy in it and THAT caption reads,"Perranporth Station photographed soon after it was opened in 1903.In the foreground,sheeted over,is aportable engine.This would probably have been used for agricultural purposes such as driving a threshing machine"!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

........Well,I still reckon its a bloody cement mixer!!!
ps.The book is Cornwalls Lost Railways by Peter Dale,(what does HE know???)

Cheers,John.B.

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Fantastic picture, is that a goods shed in the background? If so what would the trackplan look like? and being even thicker could someone explain how operations would work please. Sorry to be so ignorant of basic operating procedures.

Cheers

Kev

I think I'm still on topic.

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