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 Posted: Sat Feb 6th, 2021 06:12 pm
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Hi all.    I have been thinking about the purchase of one of these units for a while. Preferably already carrying a DCC decoder to save me the trouble. This in no way a criticism. Best wishes Kevin



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They are a bit overpriced, in my opinion, but to the same standards as the previous 2 EPB units. Getting the body off to fit a decoder is exactly the same as for the EPB and CEP units - fiddly. Running qualities and finishes are again the equal of the previous types.




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Hi Jeff.  Thank you for your reply. At the time I purchased the four Cep unit I had great plans, but now I am rather limited to two car units and they will be confined, until I build another board? Best wishes Kevin 



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I have seen them in the flesh but have not purchased a 2-Hap unit.  My era is green, preferably with a small yellow warning panel and yellow first class band which is a livery not (yet?) offered.  

I could have a plain green one.  However visually they are closely similar to the 2-EPB units of which I have a full complement already.  I simply don't have space to take one of everything I might like but which may seldom if ever get a run.


To my mind they are superb models which fully uphold Bachmann's standards of recent years and which expands the ready-to-run Southern Region portfolio of multiple units.  But they are over-priced in common with other recent Bachmann releases and announcements.  


To each their own.  I would probably relent if my first choice of livery was offered at the current price.  If it comes out a year or two from now with an even higher price-tag then no.  


Anyone interested in SR modelling is invited to browse the Southern Electric Group's pages largely compiled and with impartial reviews written by their Modelling Officer, Colin Duff  http://www.southernelectric.org.uk/modelling/



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Hi Rick.  Being a southern fan, I was a member of that group, but, it was too heavy for me. I had great plans for building a model Railway and rushed out and purchased all the Southern Units that I could get hold of.I do prefer the green range myself, but, had to go for the blue 2EPB, I have also got the 2BIL and 2 HAL. Which I am still trying to decide which would be the best DCC Decoder to fit. Has anyone done a.2NOL. Best wishes Kevin



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Ok I'll bite. . Whats a 2NOL ???  :hmm
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Class_2-NOL
Ok answered my own question lol  :pathead

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Hi Matt.    Very good. I did hear that some new trains in Southern England are being built to the same standard?As the 2NOL, with advice to passengers that if they need to use the loo, then they should get off at the next station and use the facilities there.  Best wishes Kevin 



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Hi Kevin I take if you leave the train you would need to P. . . Be very fast !   :lol:

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Rick.  Being a southern fan, I was a member of that group, but, it was too heavy for me. I had great plans for building a model Railway and rushed out and purchased all the Southern Units that I could get hold of.I do prefer the green range myself, but, had to go for the blue 2EPB, I have also got the 2BIL and 2 HAL. Which I am still trying to decide which would be the best DCC Decoder to fit. Has anyone done a.2NOL. Best wishes Kevin

For the 2-BIL and 2-HAL - either Lenz Standard+ or Zimo MX600R. I have the Lenz in my examples: in the 2-BIL the decoder socket is at the inner end of the motor coach and the decoder sits in the roof space. The 2-HAL socket is at the driving end and the decoder is fitted underneath the seating where there is a recess for it. And whilst you have the body off for both of these, snip out the capacitor next to the motor bogie.

The Bachmann 2-EPB and 2-HAP have 21-pin sockets and it's the Zimo MZ638D that is the best. The Zimo decoders are £20 each and the Lenz around £18. Don't bother trying to remove the caps with these - it's major surgery (ie full dismantle and reassemble)! 



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I have used Lenz decoders for all of the Bachmann and Hornby EMUs: Silver 21+ for Bachmann, Standard+ for the Hornby units. I have never had any problems with them working straight out of the box (apart from one defective decoder), and it means that for multiple unit operations (conssiting) they usually match without adjustment.



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Hi Robert.  Thank you for your reply. I am sorry that I have done this before and you gave me an answer.I never got around to buying the decoders at the time, but, I will as soon as I get a chance. Best wishes Kevin



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Hi Matt.   Think about the early tube traveller. The “City and South London Railway “ had carriages called Padded Cells. That would leave no chance. Best wishes Kev 



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